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@noinconsistency I don't think that what they would feel is gender dysphoria, but rather the fragility of their masculinity and insecurity over what other men will think of them.
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@inquisitrix @noinconsistency Yeah it would be more like being treated as a woman in context that matter and then being forced by a logically to medically transition.
That's why I say if gender identity isn't real, then a CIS person should have no problem transitioning with no dysphoria
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@ShellTerminal @inquisitrix @noinconsistency Gender identity isn't real in the sense that gender roles are a social construct and not inherent. Things that are social constructs still matter to our brains but that is dependent on nurture and not nature, hence the "not real" tag. It matters, we feel it, but it's not inherent
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@amsiseepy @ShellTerminal @noinconsistency Call it sex identity if you want to make up a bullshit definition of "gender identity" to reflect literally only the social aspect, but there absolutely is something innate in your brain telling you which sex your body is supposed to be, and distressing you when it's not.
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@inquisitrix @ShellTerminal @noinconsistency Your body, yes. How you're treated/look, no. Gender roles and societal expectations of what a man and a woman is like and is supposed to be are entirely made up and there's nothing inherent about them. Humans have had different gender roles across history with different-
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@amsiseepy @inquisitrix @noinconsistency It's not just made up, it's performed ..
you grow up around it you go to school with it it's written in our books it's written in our media..
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@ShellTerminal @inquisitrix @noinconsistency Yeah. It's not consciously performed, it's usually burned into our subconscious and takes a while to unlearn.
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@amsiseepy @inquisitrix @noinconsistency I'm going to say it is performed consciously because cultures consciously perform it...
People like (observed in animals perform rituals) and behaviors for social interaction and mating.

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@ShellTerminal @inquisitrix @noinconsistency This is very different from normal day to day. A lot of it is subconscious, because people don't even think about it, they just do it
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@amsiseepy @inquisitrix @noinconsistency If you were in a culture that recognizes people as they are, instead of who they should be..
You might have less difficulty just behaving as you see fit...
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@ShellTerminal @inquisitrix @noinconsistency Yes that is also what I would've liked what do you think I'm saying here lol
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