Coronado Islander Seminary

Our seminary class took Elder Bednar’s challenge seriously to flood the earth through social media. So far: • TikTok – not bad • Instagram – eh • X – apparently a tougher mission field! LDS community… help the youth out. Follow and repost if you see something worth sharing

I used to be 100% sure Mormonism was an unbiblical cult but after reading the Book of Mormon I am 200% sure.

@FeelsGuy2003 A little late to the game, pal! This field has already been plowed, sodded and plowed again!

Mormons aren’t Christian.

Memeing Mormons? Let’s go. Battle of memes.

Silly. Fair point. Wearing a Patriots jersey doesn’t make you a Patriots player. But that’s not the claim. The claim is that someone who wears the jersey, watches every game, cheers for the team, and centers his Sundays around the Patriots can reasonably call himself a Patriots fan. The disagreement is over the definition of fan, not whether he’s on the roster.

If I say I’m a New England Patriots player and wear a Patriots jersey am I actually a Patriots player?

@KalaDeeDee @byzantinecopt God bless!

@CHS_Seminary @byzantinecopt The church never dies or falls away. There are individuals & cults who fall away. Lds is such an apostasy- a bad fruit of Protestantism. As is jw, sda, and other sects. His true church endures to the end- the 2nd coming of Christ. It is shown in Revelation . Holy Orthodoxy.

anyone who rejects the nicene creed is not a christian.

@rileyadamvoth Or, now hear me out, we refuse to accept the caricatures you paint of what we believe. I’m sure you were coming at the issue from a genuine search for answers, not an inquisition.

One thing the last couple days have shown us for sure: 99% of Mormons haven't read their own book and do not know their own religion's history and beliefs.

@KalaDeeDee @byzantinecopt If apostasy is impossible, the New Testament contains an awful lot of warnings about it.

1)There was no great apostasy. The idea of an apostasy denies the promise of Christ for His Church that Hades would never prevail & He is with His church always 2) the ancient apostolic faith of the NT - holy orthodoxy- is undefiled for 2000yrs. It overcame pagans, Muslims, and Bolsheviks. It has not ‘changed oufits’. Its ethos is to preserve the apostolic faith undefiled. Unlike tge prot ethos sola scriptura, or rcc ethos honoring the pope. Prot & Rcc change nonstop. Protestants gave birth to mormon. It’s just yet another bad fruit of Protestantism

Appreciate your perspective. I served in the military for 20+ years. While this document may have had good intentions, I could easily see how it would be misused. I’ve seen Latter-day Saint chaplains denied opportunities to teach because they were considered “not Christian.” I’ve seen LDS chaplains required to announce up front to service member seeking services that they were Latter-day Saints so attendees could decide whether they were comfortable remaining. I’ve seen LDS congregations pushed off base because the chaplain wanted to have the religious offering funds (tithing) submitted through the military. At some point, that’s no longer just an administrative distinction. It’s a theological judgment.

There is nothing sinister about the DoW chaplain designation of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints outside the rest of mainstream Christianity. It could actually be a good thing for LDS service members who currently have to have their spiritual needs addressed 🧵

@john_john_son67 @allie__voss I’m just trying to manifest it out there in the universe

@CHS_Seminary @allie__voss Don’t tell me you’ve seen one with a Q…

I'm not here to critique the Latter Day Saints. They are lovely people and twitter is a poor place to talk about theology But I do 100% believe they were ground zero for all the crazy baby names we have today and there needs to be SOME accountability

I have seen that dumb comparison enough now where I think we just need to double down and own it: OPTION A Mormons are trans-Christians!’ says the guy whose denomination has changed more outfits than RuPaul while insisting it’s always been the same dress. OPTION B ‘Mormons are trans-Christians’ and proud of it. We didn’t just slap on some new pronouns; we went full restoration surgery, cut out the creeds, restored the original plumbing, and now we’re living our truth as the Church Jesus actually founded. Cope harder, trads. OPTION C Look, if believing in modern prophets, temples, and the Book of Mormon makes me a trans-Christian, then call me Caitlyn — because we restored the body of Christ while everyone else was still arguing about which parts got chopped off in the Great Apostasy.

@CHS_Seminary @byzantinecopt Calling a fake creature ‘Christ’ doesn’t make them the Christ. It’s a ‘transChrist’ thegospelcoalition.org/article/mormon…

@3degreesofglory What about Bale???

Mormons aren’t Christian Slater

The disconnect is pretty simple. Latter-day Saints use “Christian” to mean a follower and disciple of Jesus Christ. Many others use “Christian” to mean someone who adheres to historic creedal Christianity. So when we’re told, “You’re not Christian,” we hear, “You don’t follow Christ.” That’s why we push back. We fully acknowledge that our theology differs from creedal Christianity. The real disagreement is over who gets to define the label.

I honestly didn’t realize Mormons thought of themselves as Christian- they like made up a whole new thing

@Luke_ehM Gotchu

48 more followers to 1000. I’m sure most of them are bots, but hopefully the bots give me some likes.

@jmillincook Yes. And do so with arms wide open.

Is this the creed we are supposed to follow ?

I actually agree with much of what you wrote. Christianity is centered on Jesus Christ: His divinity, atonement, resurrection, and return. What I’m missing is the explanation for why Latter-day Saints wouldn’t fit the definition you’ve laid out. We believe in Jesus Christ as the Son of God, His virgin birth, sinless life, atoning sacrifice, bodily resurrection, ascension, and future return. It seems the real question isn’t whether we believe in Christ, but whether acceptance of later creedal definitions is required to be considered Christian. If that’s the argument, I’d be interested in seeing it made directly from Scripture rather than simply assuming it. That’s where I think the conversation should focus. If someone wants to argue that Latter-day Saints are not Christians, they need to identify the specific doctrine that disqualifies us and explain why that doctrine is essential to Christianity from Scripture itself. Simply referring to “the biblical Christ” doesn’t really answer the question, because both of us would claim to follow the Christ of the Bible.

@CHS_Seminary Did you read the article?

Mormons just got kicked off the official Christian list by the Defense Department and the debate is exploding. But Scripture doesn’t care about labels or institutions. Christianity stands on the biblical Christ: virgin-born, sinless, crucified, risen, and coming again. Not extra scriptures. Not different gods. True unity is doctrinal, not denominational. Read the truth: open.substack.com/pub/clastonber… The Church is one because Christ is one. The gospel is one. The truth is one. #Christianity #DoctrineMatters #BiblicalTruth

That’s been brewing for a bit. It was subtle and under the radar during Mitt Romney’s runs for the presidency (remember Huckabee’s silly “aw shucks” aside “don’t they believe Jesus and Satan are brothers”) and really came out after the Michigan attack. Also during Charlie Kirk’s funeral, we are clearly on the outside.

When I look around at my fellow Trump voters and realize these same creedal MAGA "Christians" hate me.

Have you ever noticed it bothers Mormons a great deal when they’re (correctly) told they aren’t Christians, but it doesn’t bother Christians at all when they’re (correctly) told they aren’t Mormons? Telling.

It seems that the DoW has issued a correction on it. I’m glad. It was ripe for misuse of the document and would have resulted in lawsuits—not just from LDS, but from Islam (which doesn’t distinguish between Sunni and Shia), from Jewish groups (which don’t distinguish between Reform and Orthodox), etc.

that's just people misusing the document though... besides, changes to it were made to try to help remedy whatever the problem was, and I think we should leave it as is people will still discriminate us, no matter what the government does for us or against us. that's just how it's going to be, so... it's pointless to fight over this and try to paint it as something it isn't

if you have NO military experience or have not even bothered to research what that document/letter is meant for, then shut your trap and don't say fucking shit. I am tired of people crying in fear or vague frustration that the government is gonna deny the rights of people to practice what religions they want. the document existed before and listed plenty of "religions" or "denominations" that are either incredibly niche (very few practice it), or likely just faded away completely. they refined it to focus more on those they can easily acquire resources for. military leadership is still limited, so trying to list so many that need resources allocated for religious practices would become impractical over time, so shortening it to a more streamlined list is better for everyone. most active duty soldiers are often going to be practicing a more well-known religion anyway, and most notably, a lot of them are a member of one of the various Christian denominations on top of that so unless you research what it is and what it's meant for, and unless you research how the military functions IN GENERAL, then just don't say anything. stop talking and let the smart adults handle this - sincerely, a military brat who actually understands things and looks things up when I don't

@grunk876 We do???? Sweet. When can we see him???

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