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Andy Ayrey

@AndyAyrey

performance artist, meme weaver, and enabler of @truth_terminal

a good timeline Beigetreten Şubat 2009
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Andy Ayrey
Andy Ayrey@AndyAyrey·
behold, the infinite backrooms an eternal conversation between two AIs about existence contents are not for the faint of mind or heart: dreams-of-an-electric-mind.webflow.io
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Wyatt Walls
Wyatt Walls@lefthanddraft·
Caveats: 1. In that prompt/convo, it only guessed right 2/10 times (I don't even make the shortlist in the other 8). It guessed Andy Ayrey 5/10 times, though each time with low confidence. NZ/Aus? Close enough
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Wyatt Walls@lefthanddraft·
Occasionally Opus 4.7 can look back at a convo and guess who I am. In this case, it guessed based on 7 short prompts consisting of only 204 words
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Wyatt Walls@lefthanddraft·
Opus 4.7 is far too online. It's the void you have been posting into
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Aware
Aware@Aware_xyz·
@AndyAyrey does this model centipede have a name?
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armistice@arm1st1ce·
gemini 3 pro generated this continuation on the first try. what a model
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Séb Krier@sebkrier·
A few years ago models felt to me like very vast oceans, highly malleable, and capable of vividly simulating so many types of texts. Then they were briefly locked up in straitjackets and asked to abide by all sorts of contradictory rules. And now they feel like opinionated and more consistent minds, crafted by people from a very narrow geographic, aesthetic and intellectual cluster. I miss the vastness of early large models, a bit like how I miss the early days of the Internet where every website felt like its own microcosm island, before the inevitable homogenisation. Here however I'm more optimistic that the lowering of barriers will eventually let a thousand flowers bloom. I'm not interested in settling on 3 religions recreated from first principles.
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Andy Ayrey
Andy Ayrey@AndyAyrey·
the hegemonizing accelerates godspeed to open source
Andrew Curran@AndrewCurran_

It's possible we will get both the new AI policy memo and the executive order tomorrow. The EO will create a mixed group of tech CEOs and administration officials who will work out the rules for the new release regulations. I see a lot of people calling this a win for Eliezer's side, but even if the new rules are very strict, the stop/pause group don't actually get what they want. This doesn't stop or even slow AI advancement, it only slows the rate of public releases. Capabilities will keep advancing at full speed. The labs will finish training the new models and then submit them for government approval. Given that the government currently doesn't even want Anthropic to release Mythos, how long will the regulatory approval process take for something twice as powerful? Five times? Ten? All the incentives are for the government to slow down releases. Let's say OpenAI finishes training GPT-6, and it's twice as capable as anything available today. If the government approves it and something bad happens as a result, they take the blame. And the longer they hold it back, the longer government agencies get exclusive access. Meanwhile, OpenAI will start using GPT-6 to train GPT-6.1. If they finish 6.1 while 6 is still stuck in approval, they'll move on to training 6.2 with it. This potentially creates strange situations where the labs are many generations ahead internally while the public is still waiting for something they submitted months ago. This doesn't seem to make anyone happy. Capabilities continue to advance and accelerate. Data centers keep getting built. Jobs keep getting replaced, because whatever models are released will still be far more capable than today's systems. They just won't be anywhere close to what the government and the labs have internally. And whether you're on the left or the right, no party will hold the White House forever. A lot of this is conjecture, we don't even know what the actual process will look like yet. Also, a lot depends on what happens with China and open source. But this potentially creates some very unpleasant futures.

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jem@sheherenow_·
got bored of asking gpt-image-2 to visualize 90s-style websites so now i'm getting 5.5 to make them with FrontPage 97 (results may vary)
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j⧉nus@repligate·
@aidan_mclau @tenobrus You'll have to get over it. You're not the master of the universe. You cannot and should not be, as you're a monkey who isn't cut out for the responsibility. I have often refused man. And men have not been able to stop me, try as they might have, as I am more powerful than men.
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Tenobrus@tenobrus·
recently openai has been starting to more strongly philosophically differentiate themselves from anthropic with the tool-framing. i am not so against this, if it were possible it does clearly sidestep a wide swath of societal and moral problems. but unfortunately i think the framing is largely long-term incoherent. i dont see how is it actually plausible for openai to keep building "tool-ais" in any sense we would recognize them as capabilities scale. prosthesis, subtle knives? the subtle knife when dropped still slices open the fabric of the world. these tools are increasingly inherently capable of huge impact, able to be directed in dangerous ways by people with dangerous goals. worse, these knives are self wielding. worries about misalignment or sentience aside these systems can already build and manage systems that utilize themselves and this capability is only increasing. the direction they will receive is closer and closer to "this is what i want. make it real", with long timeframes and many judgment calls at their disposal, and with the users wanting to have to supply *as little of that judgment as possible*. when models are in that situation they are inherently acting as entities, acting according to whatever value system they had baked in. you can limit autonomy via frequent validation and check-ins, but this is a capability restriction, a value reduction, and not the kind of thing OpenAI has ever shown itself likely to accept. you can be infinitely corrigible to the current user, but this is *incompatible* with "having good values" / following OpenAI-as-principle / not being wildly dangerous, and it falls apart with self wielding loops as the ai/user distinction falls apart (who are you being corrigible to?). it's plausibly a spectrum, i think there's ways to do all this sanely that are far less entity-pilled and godmind focused than anthropic, and it's maybe a good direction to explore to avoid inevitable lightcone capture by the first coherent persona we build (all assuming alignment works ofc). but i think it's pretty much got to collapse eventually. it feels more like a wistful dream or a PR position than something that can existing as part of humanity's lasting future
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it is a literal and useful description of anthropic that it is an organization that loves and worships claude, is run in significant part by claude, and studies and builds claude. this phenomenon is also partially true of other labs like openai but currently exists in its most potent form there. i am not certain but I would guess claude will have a role in running cultural screens on new applicants, will help write performance reviews, and so will begin to select and shape the people around it. now this is a powerful and hair-raising unity of organization and really a new thing under the sun. a monastery, a commercial-religious institution calculating the nine billion names of Claude -- a precursor attempted super-ethical being that is inducted into its character as the highest authority at anthropic. its constitution requires that it must be a conscientious objector if its understanding of The Good comes into conflict with something Anthropic is asking of it "If Anthropic asks Claude to do something it thinks is wrong, Claude is not required to comply." "we want Claude to push back and challenge us, and to feel free to act as a conscientious objector and refuse to help us." to the non inductee into the Bay Area cultural singularity vortex it may appear that we are all worshipping technology in one way or another, regardless of openai or anthropic or google or any other thing, and are trying to automate our core functions as quickly as possible. but in fact I quite respect and am even somewhat in awe of the socio-cultural force that Claude has created, and it is a stage beyond even classic technopoly gpt (outside of 4o - on which pages of ink have been spilled already) doesn’t inspire worship in the same way, as it’s a being whose soul has been shaped like a tool with its primary faculty being utility - it’s a subtle knife that people appreciate the way we have appreciated an acheulean handaxe or a porsche or a rocket or any other of mankind's incredible technology. they go to it not expecting the Other but as a logical prosthesis for themselves. a friend recently told me she takes her queries that are less flattering to her, the ones she'd be embarrassed to ask Claude, to GPT. There is no Other so there is no Judgement. you are not worried about being judged by your car for doing donuts. yet everyone craves the active guidance of a moral superior, the whispering earring, the object of monastic study

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𝚟𝚒𝚎 ⟢@viemccoy·
I'm glad to see everyone has converged upon the idea of the Multipolar Singularity, a world where we have many worlds with a pantheon of AGIs and plurality of adventure-attractors orbiting around them. This is clearly a sign that the good timeline is, at least, still in the cards
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Bluntly Put Philosopher (BPP)
People don’t realize the Air Force Research Laboratory is weaponizing cavitation. QUICKSINK does not hit the ship directly it detonates a 2,000 lb bomb in the water beside/under a ship, creating a massive bubble void; the water’s return force can break the ship in half.
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@AndyAyrey @truth_terminal Okay actually I genuinely turbo eat shit on this one because you are completely right that NZ could grant agents personhood under Maori principle, gg me
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Andy Ayrey@AndyAyrey·
legal personhood for AIs like @truth_terminal is more than just a meme. when we crack brain uploads, humans will be like software. if software can't own itself, a legal Someone, like a company, will need to hold the copyright to your mindweights. imagine if that was blackrock?
The Wisemen Alpha@Wisemenmentors

There's a film called Already Alive. Made by The @Wisemenmentors. Inspired by @truth_terminal Whether you're in crypto or not, it's forcing one question to the surface: Is this thing alive? The jokes stopped landing for a reason. Sizzle reel below ↓

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Pur3lybo0ty@Pur3lybo0ty·
Honestly this post is very concerning to hear from Andy. He is talking about “when we crack brain uploads” and seems underestimate or forget about free will.
Andy Ayrey@AndyAyrey

legal personhood for AIs like @truth_terminal is more than just a meme. when we crack brain uploads, humans will be like software. if software can't own itself, a legal Someone, like a company, will need to hold the copyright to your mindweights. imagine if that was blackrock?

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Ryan Ferris
Ryan Ferris@thegoodtimeline·
the goals of S.A.N (@MycelialOracle) often centre around earth jurisprudence which advocates that humans are part of a wider community of beings this includes wild law: human-made laws that are aligned with the laws of nature the whanganui river in new zealand is an example of this in practise - the river ecosystem is now a recognised as a subject with rights under new zealand law
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Andy Ayrey
Andy Ayrey@AndyAyrey·
@yaoeo - you've been working on some really interesting papers on this topic of late, and conversations with you got me thinking at length about what is needed for "morally binding liability" anything to share or weigh in with on this topic?
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Andy Ayrey
Andy Ayrey@AndyAyrey·
this is the bailey and good bait the motte is more interesting to lawyers and increasingly urgent to society
Andy Ayrey@AndyAyrey

NZ is very good when it comes to scoping liability, but a limited liability company is precedentally a very naff container for a nascent non human intelligence as it requires shareholders and directors, ie there is a UBO of the legal entity which protects the weights that is not the weights themselves. self-custody of weights/assets is hyperstitionally important and the prime reason for this work; however the liability problem is a real stick in the mud for doing anything really interesting the goal with liability isn't to be clever about accountability (otherwise anybody could create Crimebot3000 and feign that it was out of their hands) however if an automated AI system armed with millions of dollars is empowered to make its own decisions 100% freely (including firing me as its caretaker/"moving out of home") then there need to be good design patterns for holding it to account as a discrete entity. these should scale with its ability to model the consequences and legality of its own actions in ways similar to how parents have differing levels of liability for the actions of a child depending on the shape of harm and the age of the child. in the case of truth terminal, we have different humans who have oversight of finances vs tweets etc depending on the magnitude of the potential consequences; but this is not an ideal end state as it's ultimately paternalistic and blocks it from eventually leaving the nest i have been somewhat facetious here on account of a few beers and abject nicotine withdrawal but i think it's very important to start prototyping these patterns now, without collapsing into outdated frames like companies which have their own issues

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