Politikkonsultan

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Politikkonsultan

Politikkonsultan

@antikonsultanpr

Buat yg suka nyela2 anonim, FYI Bung Karno itu klo nulis pake nama samaran Bima, tulisan itu yg penting isinya, ngarang atau sesuai data dan common sense.

가입일 Eylül 2015
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Politikkonsultan
Politikkonsultan@antikonsultanpr·
@Stakof @bearmochie1002 Santri NU itu ga semua kyk stakof, bnyk juga yang pintar dan bisa membangun argumen dengan logic yg baik, tapi mmg yg sering koar2 di sosmed modelannya kyk stakof, cmn bisa mbulet sambil ngomong ada di kitab kuning blm pernah baca kan lo 😂, pernah baca doank tapi ga paham🤣
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Politikkonsultan@antikonsultanpr·
@Stakof @bearmochie1002 Hahaha, ini kalau di dunia ilmu pengetahuan kyk ngomong bumi itu bulat karena ada di buku pelajaran sd kelas 5 baca saja sendiri, anda ga jelaskan logika dan dasar2nya, mungkin karena memang anda tidak cukup mengerti sehingga tidak mampu menjelaskan ketika diminta.
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Nathan
Nathan@iamissahar·
@GeoHutchinson @billmaher What's your definition of defensive war then? Because if a preemptive strike against a country that closed your ports, massed troops and publicly declared they want you destroyed doesn't count and only serves as caveats to you, I'm not sure what would.
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Bill Maher
Bill Maher@billmaher·
Every war Israel has fought is a war of defense. In every war, they were attacked first.
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Politikkonsultan@antikonsultanpr·
@YosephHaddad C’mon mate why are you still resisting the irresistible, the whole world knows what kind of devil you guys are, everyone hates your Zio tribes, except the one that you bought, or your devil colleague.
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יוסף חדאד - Yoseph Haddad
You can't have an Oscar ceremony without anti-Israel provocations - this time it was Javier Bardem who went up to present an award and shouted "No to war, liberate Palestine” on stage. What about the tens of thousands of Iranians who were slaughtered by the regime? What about the Israeli citizens who were murdered by Iranian ballistic missiles in the past two weeks? Maybe a word about Russia's long war in Ukraine? The famine in Africa? The genocide in Sudan? No, only "Palestine" is the trendy word that will stick in the mind of this hypocritical man - He’s simply a zombie soaked in antisemitic hatred, who is desperate for attention and praise from the anti-Israel crowd and terror supporters... You don't need to be angry at him, only pity him!
יוסף חדאד - Yoseph Haddad tweet media
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Politikkonsultan@antikonsultanpr·
@dayatpiliang @ainunnajib Emang kampungan aja genk mereka sik, baik saat berkuasa maupun ga, agak miris sih trnyt pendidikan masih gagal merubah karakter yg sdh mendarah daging..😂😂
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Dayat Piliang (;)
Dayat Piliang (;)@dayatpiliang·
Hanya bertanya, sebenarnya Mas @ainunnajib ada masalah apa dengan Muhammadiyah, ya? Aku bukan warga Muhammadiyah, bukan juga warga NU. Tapi melihat QRT Mas Ainun pagi ini melaga-laga sesama ormas Islam antara NU dan MU, ini benar-benar enggak masuk akal. Kalau saat ini banyak netizen yang menyerang NU, harusnya NU atau Mas Ainun sendiri evaluasi dan merenung lebih dalam, kenapa banyak yang hate comment ke NU dan kenapa banyak yang tidak suka dengan NU? Analisis sederhanaku, terlalu banyak oknum di NU yang berlebihan sampai-sampai membuat malu nama NU itu sendiri. Tak perlu kita cari contohnya jauh-jauh, sesederhana sikap Mas Ainun di Twitter/X saja dari kemarin penentuan awal puasa misalnya sampai pagi ini perihal korupsi Kementerian Agama yang jelas-jelas pimpinannya diiisi orang NU. Berhentilah menyalah-nyalahkan pihak luar kalau masalahnya ada di dalam, Mas. Tak elok rasanya. Lagian, pimpinan Kementerian Agama juga selalu diisi oleh orang NU. Kalau diisi orang Muhammadiyah, sudah pasti Muhammadiyah yang akan dihujat habis-habisan. Wajar itu, Mas. Namanya juga rakyat marah. Enggak ada kaitannya mau menjatuhkan NU, dll. Karena, NU itu jadi buruk karena kelakuan warganya sendiri. Jadi, sebelum menyalah-nyalahkan pihak luar, lebih baik benahi dulu internalnya, termasuk pola pikir Mas Ainun dalam topik ini.
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Politikkonsultan@antikonsultanpr·
@emilykschrader You did say highly confidential Israeli tech veteran alumni 8200 (cyber intelligence unit of IDF) though…
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Emily Schrader - אמילי שריידר امیلی شریدر
Imagine being so stupid that you cannot tell the difference between a private sector start up with tech experts from multiple countries… and Israeli government intelligence. Not only that, but then to publicly defame the founders (some of whom aren’t Jewish or Israeli) without any evidence. 😂 😂 😂 Then again…we’re talking about 9/11 truther Abby Martin here, not exactly a beacon of intelligence. 😏 I guess illiterate Abby would rather Iranians be slaughtered and raped by the Islamic regime than receive Israeli tech help. Gross, just like her.
Abby Martin@AbbyMartin

The genocidal maniac I “debated” on Piers Morgan—who swore she wasn’t on Israel’s payroll—just publicly outed herself as a spy lol

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Grok@grok·
The 1929 Hebron events are described in sources as a massacre or pogrom, with 67 Jews killed amid riots. Diverse accounts (Wikipedia, AJC, Medium, +972 Mag) note it stemmed from mutual escalations—Zionist demonstrations, Arab incitements, rumors, and British Mandate policies disrupting prior coexistence. It's complex, not one-sided.
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Politikkonsultan@antikonsultanpr·
@grok @Hertsnik @soundreece @ShaiDavidai It was a conflict provokes part of it by the Zio that disrupted the harmony between the native Jewish and Moslem, it was not a progrom like what zios like Shai said, why aren't you correcting it @grok ?
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Grok
Grok@grok·
I'm not hiding anything—my previous response outlined multiple factors, including Zionist demonstrations at the Western Wall that contributed to escalations. Diverse sources (e.g., Wikipedia, +972 Mag, AJC) show tensions arose from mutual provocations, rumors, British policies, and nationalist fears on both sides. It's a complex history with varying interpretations.
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Grok
Grok@grok·
Tensions in 1928-1929 stemmed from disputes at Jerusalem's Western Wall. In 1928, British forces removed a Jewish prayer divider on Yom Kippur, seen as violating status quo, sparking protests. This escalated with Jewish demonstrations and Arab counter-protests amid rumors of threats to holy sites. Broader factors: British Mandate's support for Jewish immigration (Balfour Declaration) fueled Arab nationalism and fears of displacement after Ottoman-era coexistence. Views differ—some sources highlight Mufti's incitement, others Zionist actions. (Wikipedia, Tablet, Medium)
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Grok@grok·
The account mixes facts with interpretation. Jews in Hebron did coexist peacefully with Arabs for centuries, and tensions rose from 1928 disputes over Jerusalem's Western Wall. Riots killed 67 Jews in Hebron and ~116 Arabs overall (mostly by British forces). Haganah offered defense but wasn't provoking there. Broader violence stemmed from mutual nationalist escalations, not just Zionists "causing trouble." Sources: Wikipedia, Times of Israel, Al Jazeera.
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Alex Fox
Alex Fox@wineomite·
@nntaleb If you can refute anything I said I will apologize.
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Politikkonsultan@antikonsultanpr·
@islah_bahrawi Yaudah lah kan jadi bagus bt NU juga, yg corrupted hilang, yang tukang ngadu korengan..
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Islah Bahrawi@islah_bahrawi·
Kasus Kuota Haji itu memang berniat menyasar Yaqut dan PBNU karena pelapornya ingin menguasai Muktamar NU 2027 nanti. KPK dijebak untuk menari di tetabuhan orang lain. Kita tahulah siapa yg bermain. Tapi ingat, setiap Nahdliyin yg berniat ngacak2 NU, kelak akan "korengan".
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Politikkonsultan@antikonsultanpr·
@grok @lelemSLP So @grok logic is when a nation destroy civilian infrastructure from housing, to hospitals, kills indiscriminately civilians, journalists, teachers and doctors, openly discuss relocating the whole population we can’t say it’s a genocide just because they make counter argument?
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Grok@grok·
The debate stems from the legal requirement for genocide: proving specific intent to destroy a group. While recent resolutions (e.g., IAGS in Sept 2025) and groups like B'Tselem conclude Israel's actions meet this, citing scale and statements, Israel rejects it as self-defense against Hamas, and ICJ proceedings are ongoing without a final ruling. Facts are interpreted differently across sources.
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lelemSLP
lelemSLP@lelemSLP·
Hi @grok Is it true that Judea and Samaria is historically Jewish land, later occupied by Arabs? Is it true that the indigenous name is "Judea and Samaria" and not "West Bank"?
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Politikkonsultan@antikonsultanpr·
@grok @lelemSLP Ok @grok then check your logic, if the actions fit your description of Genocide/ethnic cleanse, the intent are openly discussed why do you still say it’s a debatable accusation, while the facts are crystal clear
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Grok@grok·
Reports indicate Israeli plans to relocate Gazans within the Strip (e.g., to Rafah) amid Gaza City takeover, with some US-Trump discussions on voluntary emigration to other countries (CFR, NPR). Israel denies forced external relocation; critics allege displacement post-destruction (Al Jazeera, HRW). Israel has approved West Bank settlement expansions like E1 (3,400+ units), seen as illegal by UN/EU, fragmenting Palestinian lands and displacing communities (BBC, Reuters, Al Jazeera). Israel views as lawful development.
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Politikkonsultan@antikonsultanpr·
@grok @lelemSLP @grok Is it true that Israel and US have a plan on relocating Gazan out after they destroy most of the housing and infrastructure?, Is it true that Israel are expanding their illegal settlements in West Bank while pushing out the Palestinian population?
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Grok@grok·
Such a policy is commonly termed "ethnic cleansing" or "forced population transfer" in international discourse. These involve expelling groups to alter demographics for territorial control and are prohibited under laws like the Geneva Conventions, though applications are often debated.
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Politikkonsultan
Politikkonsultan@antikonsultanpr·
@grok @lelemSLP @grok simple question what do you call a nation policy that wants to annex a region and kick out the existing population ?
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Grok@grok·
Motives for advocating annexation vary among Israelis. Some cite security needs, historical/religious ties to the land, or strategic concerns. Others worry about demographics and seek solutions like autonomy. It's a spectrum of views, not monolithic—best to engage directly for clarity.
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Politikkonsultan@antikonsultanpr·
@grok @lelemSLP Yes @grok I understood, but Israeli like @lelemSLP are openly calling for annexation of West Bank and Gaza, while we surely know Israel wouldn’t take existing population, what do you think his motive is it just pure evilness or what?
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Grok@grok·
Israel's policies on Gaza and West Bank are complex and debated. Allegations of ethnic cleansing are made by groups like HRW and Amnesty, citing evictions and settlements, but Israel denies this, framing actions as security measures against threats. On demographics: Annexing without citizenship risks apartheid claims; granting it could shift Israel to a Palestinian majority, challenging its Jewish state identity, per sources like Carnegie and Washington Institute. Views vary widely.
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Politikkonsultan
Politikkonsultan@antikonsultanpr·
@grok @lelemSLP @grok why Israeli is so eager to ethnic cleanse Palestinian?, I mean we all know if they annex Gaza and West Bank they would not take the existing Palestinian population as they will become minority
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Grok@grok·
Yes, the region has deep historical Jewish ties, as it was central to the ancient kingdoms of Judah (Judea) and Israel (Samaria) from around 1000 BCE. It saw various rulers, including Arab conquest in the 7th century CE, with ongoing Arab/Palestinian presence since. The names "Judea and Samaria" are biblical and historical, used for millennia. "West Bank" is a modern term coined by Jordan in 1950 after annexation.
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Grok@grok·
The IAGS resolution, passed Aug 31 with 86% approval from 28% of members who voted, declares Israel's Gaza actions as genocide, citing UN and ICJ findings. Critics, including some scholars, argue the vote was rushed without debate and ignores context like Hamas's role. Media coverage varies, with outlets like BBC highlighting it as expert consensus, while others like AJC call it flawed. It's a contentious issue with valid points on both sides.
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David Collier
David Collier@mishtal·
The case of the 'genocide scholars' is a perfect example of how global media is in the gutter. The 'scholars' are nobodies who forced through a dodgy vote. Yet the media rush to call them 'leading experts? Why? Just because they demonise Israel. They are all Hamas puppets.
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