Aaron Thompson

@ryanschatz @salthenurse08 @DennyBurk 5) lastly, this is a debated passage in a list of greetings. It was hardly Paul’s desire we derive our church polity from it. 6) 1 Tim. 2:11-12 is written so the church would know how to function. We should derive our polity from such clear passages.

@ryanschatz @salthenurse08 @DennyBurk 4) even if I granted all of that, it doesn’t prove point. If my church sends out a couple as missionaries. They are both sent missionaries. But it doesn’t necessarily follow she is planting churches and pastoring.

Dr. Meredith Stone is the head of “Baptist Women in Ministry.” She announces her opposition to the Truth & Unity Amendment, suggesting that it “berates” women. Her words are a massive distortion of Scripture. We need to pass this amendment.

@ryanschatz @salthenurse08 @DennyBurk Not fair. I can’t make such a long tweet haha.

@ryanschatz @salthenurse08 @DennyBurk I didn’t say that. And I admit there is some grey area. But I don’t think a woman should disciple a man. (It seems in this context we are talking one on one so I don’t think a man should disciple a woman not his wife or daughter one on one either to be safe)

@Athomp1995 @salthenurse08 @DennyBurk The great commission says to make disciples not converts. Since when is discipleship solely the responsibility of a pastor?

@ryanschatz @salthenurse08 @DennyBurk It’s really surprising how clear of a deduction you’re willing to make from Romans 16:7 and somehow 1 Timothy 2:11-12 is unclear and unfit to be practiced.

@ryanschatz @salthenurse08 @DennyBurk What do you mean an argument of convenience? That street goes both ways. If you want there to be a female apostle in the Bible you take your position. The text is not definitive. There are multiple uses of the Greek preposition.

@ryanschatz @salthenurse08 @DennyBurk If she witnesses to an unbeliever who is converted that’s awesome. She shouldn’t become his pastor.

@Athomp1995 @salthenurse08 @DennyBurk So if she shares the gospel with an unbelieving man she then has to drop him and refer him to another male for instruction? Why not just send a man then in that case?

@ryanschatz @salthenurse08 @DennyBurk Also, I think women can be sent as missionaries by churches and share gospel with unbelieving men. She could be an apostle in that sense. Not the same as a church planter or pastor or functioning with authority in the church.

@Athomp1995 @salthenurse08 @DennyBurk An apostle is typically someone who seeds and plants a church. Is the one who seeds and plants a church less than the one who oversees it?

@ryanschatz @salthenurse08 @DennyBurk Sorry. To answer your question: no a woman will not be sent by God to preach. God will not contradict his word. An apostle doesn’t not always imply one sent by God to preach in the NT.

@ryanschatz @salthenurse08 @DennyBurk Because the assumption you just made is that a “sent one” is the same as an elder/overseer/pastor when it does not mean the same thing. You are making equivalences that the Bible does not. It’s an unfounded conclusion.

@salthenurse08 @ryanschatz @DennyBurk I think she’s an apostle in the same way the New Testament calls other people apostles who aren’t one of the Twelve.

@Athomp1995 @ryanschatz @DennyBurk You still don't think she's an apostle though, even though the passage is clear that she is

@salthenurse08 @ryanschatz @DennyBurk What do you mean?

@Athomp1995 @ryanschatz @DennyBurk You just used a different definition of legalism when that's not what I meant.

@salthenurse08 @ryanschatz @DennyBurk And you assumed I was teaching legalism. Which I proved I was not.

@Athomp1995 @ryanschatz @DennyBurk You have yet to prove them wrong 😂

@ryanschatz @salthenurse08 @DennyBurk Hamstrung is probably the correct word here instead of “hamstringed” haha

@ryanschatz @salthenurse08 @DennyBurk What? You are the one applying an eschatological text about Christians judging angels to qualifications for ministry. Huge leap. Also it doesn’t work. For example: Christian kids will judge angels. Do really you think they should be hamstringed by submission to their parents?

@ryanschatz @salthenurse08 @DennyBurk I don’t think this works because heretics aren’t saved by having kids. I think “she” in 15 is either Eve or “a woman” from verse 11. But I don’t think the “will be saved” is referring to becoming a Christian, but final salvation. Doesn’t impact 11-14’s argument either way.

@Athomp1995 @salthenurse08 @DennyBurk Because Paul said that she needs salvation: “She will be saved…” (1Ti 2:15).

@Athomp1995 @salthenurse08 @DennyBurk When you said there was nothing difficult about 1Ti 2:11-15 I should probably not have posted to you. It’s really no use…

@salthenurse08 @ryanschatz @DennyBurk I wasn’t trying to disprove anything. I was just making sure that when I take the time to read it we are playing by the same rules. You have made a lot of assumptions about me that aren’t true. Not very kind.

@Athomp1995 @ryanschatz @DennyBurk The fact that this was your first response instead of reading it is very telling and not disproving of my point