Caleb S. 🦬

There’s an age old joke us Lutherans love to recite often and for good reason. An old man and his wife are sitting on their porch and the old woman is in a huff. Her husband asks her what’s wrong and she replies “it’s just that… you never tell me you love me anymore.” 🧵

@CleaveToChrist I dont believe the blood is sacramentally given with the body. Sure, the blood is omnipresent as wherever Christ dwells there His human nature does as well, but in the host I thought it was the Lutheran position that the body is given, and in the cup the blood given.

@CleaveToChrist Can you explain this to me please? I agree that in receiving one, you receive some benefit. But I was not under the impression that when part of the sacrament is given, the whole Christ is given. I would agree His flesh and blood cannot be separated, but (cont)

1/18 Christian Wagner and Kevin Fernandez spent 80 minutes on Scholastic Answers Youtube trying to defend communion in one kind. It didn't work. Most importantly, they conceded that the celebrant must receive both species. That concession proves our case. "Dominical Both-Kinds" is the historic, apostolic, orthodox, catholic, biblical answer. The Latin medieval withholding is the anomaly and sinful. Whats at stake is whether the Church is bound by what Christ instituted or if the Church can change dominical institutions (it can't!) Thread.

@DrJordanBCooper His take in the Genesis commentaries regarding how highly he viewed Aristotle's ethics is well known, but in them also he speaks positively of the contributions Aristotle made to science and physics and understandings of nature and its relations. He was pretty nuanced with him

"Plato and Aristotle wrote well about political matters." -Luther

@AugsKatholik Or the fact that there are Lutheran Churches but no Calvinist churches 😎

La diferencia entre luteranos y calvinistas se ve en el hecho de que existen los "bautistas reformados" pero no existen los "bautistas luteranos".

"The body and blood of Christ are in the Holy Supper through sacramental presence, which properly and accurately speaking does not depend on the majestic presence or omnipresence but on the institution and will of Christ." — Bl. Johann Gerhard, On Christ (§ 226)

@WmWeedon See, that’s perfect 🤝. I’ve been saying for years at my church, “it’s a hymn about communion, let’s use it as a distribution hymn”

@LutheranCaleb Why not sing This Is the Feast as distribution hymn in Easter? The DS4 Nunc could certainly substitute from time to time for the version in DS3 as also Luther’s In Peace and Joy.

If I were a new pastor…I’d ask elders to switch to 1 year lectionary; pretty much stick to DS 3; nudge toward weekly eucharist being norm; patiently begin teaching the AC in Adult Bible Class or my elders; ask for a policy that all music in funerals and weddings be from LSB,

Anddddd, you guys request the cup every week?

@El_nene_60 @OpStCyprian Look up Buddhists in Thailand Miracle of the sun in the 90s, and compare those hundreds of accounts to Fatima 🤯

@OpStCyprian Probably Hindu also has it

What if Mormons have some miracles and you’re not allowed to examine the message?

@AnOnPenName @___mithrandir_ Wonderful. This has come to the forefront of my mind recently as Ive looked into contraception, and Catholic ethics as a whole so I definitely will look into it. Thanks!

@LutheranCaleb @___mithrandir_ I don’t agree with absolutely everything but it didn’t have the creepy sex-negative stuff you hear online and it was quite thoughtful. I definitely recommend

They're never beating the allegations

@AnOnPenName @___mithrandir_ I hear his theology of the body is quite good. Ill have to read Love and Responsibility too

@LutheranCaleb @___mithrandir_ The online stuff is vile and toxic but I loved Love and Responsibility. So it doesn’t have to be terrible but it often is

@___mithrandir_ If anyones curious, John the Damascene taught that Romance/sex was the actual curse of Adam. Wild take, hes wrong, but still a great church father.

@___mithrandir_ John the Damascene Pilled is the new black pill. How sad though to think the closest analogy we have to the savior's love for the church is just the result of sin. Praying for him that he finds one to change his mind

@___mithrandir_ Yeah Ive definitely noticed that trend too. it doesnt help that Papism makes procreation seem like its the only purpose of sex. I get real icky vibes for how papists deal with sex ethics recently and women, so agreed. But Shakes is right and to love and lose is better than to not

@LutheranCaleb I can certainly understand heartbreak and to wish you simply weren't attracted to women. I've been there. However, when I see this, I see it as part of a larger theme of online tradcaths getting the ick from the marital act or women in general.

@QuantaCuraProt @___mithrandir_ It might be in part from that too. If I had to guess, a rad trad anonymous like him with a name like “Mary Respecter,” I bet it’s a bit jadedness with the current dating scene/ may be lonely

@LutheranCaleb @___mithrandir_ How much of it is a product of the view that religious life is de facto more holy than the married estate?

@PrimusPeccator Sacred meditations by Gerhard

I've been told by my pastor that I need to slow down on reading theology and focus on cultivating a better devotional life. Any book recommendations? Preferably Lutheran but I'm also interested in some good works on the Christian life/spirituality by the Church Fathers.

@muppetkind23328 Ridiculous. No one fits every reality of the atonement, though vicarious satisfaction I think comes closest. But Christus Victor, Ransom, Kinship Redeemer, all have some great truths!

we are critiquing ransom and Christus victor now?

@NiceneBaptist @logos_asarkos @DanielT46640724 As a Lutheran lol. Robert Bellarmine, notorious for just going along with the reformers and Lutherans on everything

@logos_asarkos @DanielT46640724 Lol your echo chamber includes Augustine, aquinas, and bellarmine

"For what else is it than superlative impudence for one to interpret in his own favour any allegorical statements, unless he has also plain testimonies, by the light of which the obscure meaning of the former may be made manifest." - St. Augustine, Ep. 93 (n. 24) "Thus in Holy Writ no confusion results, for all the senses are founded on one—the literal—from which alone can any argument be drawn, and not from those intended in allegory, as Augustine says (Epis. 48 [93]). Nevertheless, nothing of Holy Scripture perishes on account of this, since nothing necessary to faith is contained under the spiritual sense which is not elsewhere put forward by the Scripture in its literal sense." - Aquinas, ST.I.Q1.A10.Rep1 "Having thus established these things, we and our adversaries agree that efficacious arguments must be fetched from the literal sense; for that sense, which is collected immediately from the words, is certainly the sense of the Holy Spirit. But the mystical and spiritual senses are various, and although they edify when they are not against faith or good morals, yet it is not always clear whether they are intended by the Holy Spirit. Wherefore Blessed Augustine in epist. 48 [93] to Vincentius rightly mocks the Donatists who, from a mystical explanation of the words, 'Show me where you feed, where you rest at midday,' collected that the Church of Christ remained only in Africa." - Bellarmine, De Verbo Dei (bk. 3, ch. 3)

@marcado_razon @WesleyLHuff Athanasius, Origen, Melito, Gregory Nazazanzius, Jerome, the Masoretic text, Multiple eastern councils, etc. To say the 73 book had unanimous support is crazy

Where's @WesleyLHuff and his 66 book canon in history ?

How did @WesleyLHuff decide which books are inspired or not? How about we check the facts ? 1st century: God says that THE Church is the pillar & bulwark of truth (1st Timothy 3:15) 382AD: Council of Rome says 73 books 393AD: Council of Hippo says 73 books 397AD: Council of Carthage says 73 books 419AD: Council of Carthage says 73 books 1442AD: Council of Florence says 73 books 1546AD: Council of Trent says 73 books 1534AD: Martin Luther says nah, 66 books, +7 useful books 1561AD: John Calvin says 67 books including Baruch 1823AD: British Bible Society stops printing 7 books to save money Current year: Hebrew roots discard all of Paul's letters

@OpStCyprian @marcado_razon @WesleyLHuff Carthage straight up says defer to Jerome, who of course denied the deuterocanon as apocrypha

@marcado_razon @WesleyLHuff Hippo/Carthage are slightly different than Florence/Trent