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51% hopium, the rest is patience

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Max Groucho
Max Groucho@MaxGroucho1·
@respeculator spoke with someone who deals with treasury and ATO, this is likely to be fixed — ie real losses likely to be offset
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Respeculator@respeculator·
This is the key issue below in the CGT changes IMO - it's not just that the 50% CGT discount is removed and ur left with 47% cap gains tax.. it's that the gains you get to index with inflation whereas the losses you don't... Inflation erosion on the CGT plus bracket creep and inflation erosion cos they keep the progressive tax brackets the same or indexed below true inflation... is stealth theft
Robin Dods@toy59496

Small Cap Investing is Dead with a 77% spike in Tax Collection I have run 1,000 Monte Carlo simulations of portfolios of 20 Small Cap Stocks with the New Inflation Corrected CGT model versus the existing 50% CGT discount model. The results are devastating. The bottom line is that small caps are highly asymmetric bets where your small number of winners are meant to compensate you for your many losers. Mining companies are a good example of this situation and are a fundamental pillar of our national wealth. However if you tax those few winners at 47% with the trivial relative inflation correction you effectively wipe out the ability to offset your losses. This is because the tax drag on your few multi baggers is so high that it changes the entire logic of the investment process. It's become a loser's game. 1. ​The Moonshot Tax Penalty: Because Australian small caps rely heavily on a right-skewed distribution (a few massive winners offsetting many losers), the Indexation framework introduces a devastating tax penalty. For a stock that goes from $50,000 to $400,000, a 3% inflation adjustment on the original $50,000 cost basis is completely negligible. Under Indexation, you forfeit the 50% discount and pay a flat 47% on nearly the entire gain. 2. ​The Turnover Trap: With a 15% annual turnover, small-cap portfolios realize taxes continuously. Under the current system, every partial sale triggers a flat 23.5% effective tax rate, leaving more money inside the portfolio to compound. Under indexation, those early wins are hit at a full 47% clip, severely dampening the portfolio's forward compounding engine. 3. The Asymmetric Loss Failure: in small-cap investing, a stock can only ever lose 100% of its value, but explosive winners have unlimited compounding upside. The government’s asymmetric tax system completely devastates this dynamic: by replacing the flat 50% CGT discount with inflation-indexing for winners only, it leaves your nominal losses capped and completely unable to counteract the massive tax hike on your multi-baggers. Because a 3% inflation buffer barely dents a 400% moonshot gain, you end up paying a brutal, un-discounted 47% tax rate on the very winners that drive a small-cap portfolio's success, causing a 77% spike in total government tax take overall. Even in investing we see the socialist government wants us all to be the same. Communists. (Technical notes: Model executed using Gemini Pro with 1,000 portfolios of 20 stocks each with the volatility and median return typical of this class of small cap stocks over the last 10 years, using a geometric mean process to step forward each portfolio each year).

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Max Groucho
Max Groucho@MaxGroucho1·
@CRUDEOIL231 @acemoney21 given this view back in April, curious what your take is on why it didn’t play out end of April, and what your latest estimate is?
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JH@CRUDEOIL231·
@acemoney21 Yeah, at the very latest end of April. And that’s even accounting for the SPR.
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JH@CRUDEOIL231·
I actually wrote this back on March 18th to explain things to my Korean friends, but I'm posting it here on X as well since so many ppl still seem to get it wrong. Global Total Crude Inventory = Commercial MOI + Commercial Available Inventory + Surplus crude + SPR The world looks like it’s overflowing with oil, but prices don’t wait for all 2 billion barrels of global inventory to vanish before they spike. Every single time oil crossed $100/bbl, it was the same story. Take the US as the prime example. Right now, US commercial crude inventory is sitting around 440 million barrels, but that number physically cannot drop below 280–300 million. You might say, "What the hell are you talking about? Just draw it down, you idiot lol." But let’s look a bit closer. That "Commercial MOI" I mentioned stands for Minimum Operating Inventory. This isn't oil sitting in a refinery tank or a hub ready to be used instantly. MOI is the volume physically locked in the system you cannot pull out. It’s the baseline required just to keep the entire US oil system running. Here are the main components: 1) Linefill: This is the oil filling the entire pipeline network across the US. bc of the "push from one end to get out the other" structure, about 110–120 million barrels must stay in the pipes at all times. 2) Tank Bottoms: This is the volume at the very bottom of storage tanks that pumps literally can’t reach. Estimated at around 80–90 million barrels. 3) In-transit & Working Stock: The minimum volume sitting on tankers, barges, or waiting at refineries to be blended and fed into the units. Without this base feed, the refinery simply stops. Just combining Linefill and Tank Bottoms (Unavailable Stocks) gives you ~200 million barrels. Add the Working Stock needed for operational flexibility, and ~300 million barrels becomes the actual hard floor. I used the US as an example, but you probably get the point by now. The "Global Total Onshore Inventory" figure includes all that MOI—Linefill, Tank Bottoms, etc. Since it’s global, we don't have the exact numbers, but this MOI accounts for 60-70% of the total figure. Minimum Working Stock is another 20-25%. Most of those 2.3 billion barrels are scattered across tens of thousands of kilometers of pipelines and the bottoms of thousands of storage tanks. The vast majority is essential just to keep the system alive; it’s physically impossible to gather it all in one place and dump it onto the market. Therefore the actual available crude—the delta actually moves prices and balances—is much smaller than ppl think. That’s why the oil market sees massive price swings even over a quarterly shift of just 1mb/d. Think of the "buffer" I mentioned as cash on hand for immediate liquidity. The rest of those 2.3 billion barrels? That’s like your factory equipment. No matter how much equipment you have, if you run out of cash, you go bankrupt. The oil market is the same; once that tiny sliver of available crude vanishes, the system hits a crisis and faces desperate bidding. Right now, we are in the phase of burning through the "excess cash" in the corporate account. And we're doing it very fast. Next we'll start dipping into personal savings. But like most business owners, there isn't actually much cash in the personal account. It’ll run dry in no time. Now imagine if you knew as long as you kept the factory running, you could eventually pay off the debt and fix the cash flow—but right now you don’t have a single cent of available cash. What happens? To keep the factory from going under, you’d do anything to scrape together cash for the electric bill and payroll. You’d sell your kid’s iPhone or even put your wife on the street—you’d do anything desperate to get that cash. Once we hit that stage, prices go absolutely vertical. Bottom line: when the buffer is gone, you have to start withdrawing all available commercial inventory. The pace will be lightning fast. Even the ppl who were sitting on the sidelines hoping for the war to end will start bidding desperately bc they need oil 'right now'. I’m not just acting calm or pretending I’m okay with this taking a long time. Even if you believe a long position is the way to go, there’s a specific process and setup must be cleared for the environment to force prices up. And it won't take that long. Until then I expect vol to be absolutely violent in both directions. #oott #com
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Tax Guy
Tax Guy@tax_oz·
Why? If I ran this activity through a company and pay it out to those 3 as shareholders I pay net $27k of tax. If I run it through a trust I pay net $27k of tax. If I pay them $60k each as wages I pay net $27k of tax. Under the changes I double the tax via a trust and everything else stays the same. Why is this a good thing Claire?
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Max Groucho@MaxGroucho1·
@_mumbling_me @bowtiedstocks effective tax rate on taxable income of $45k is 8.3%, and on $135k its 22.8%, but minimum tax at 30% in trust now…
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BowTiedStocks@bowtiedstocks·
I’m discovering that a lot of people in my circle have had discretionary trusts and bucket companies in place This taxation of trusts budget measure will prima facie reduce the tax benefit available through such structures I’m interested how people restructure from this - do they opt for the humble company holding structure moving forward ? If so are they across any potential stamp duty implications…
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Max Groucho@MaxGroucho1·
@_mumbling_me @bowtiedstocks $45k or less? there’s a difference between marginal and effective tax rate…so it’s actually much higher than $45k
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The Portfolio Trader
The Portfolio Trader@_mumbling_me·
@bowtiedstocks This only affects ppl who distribute (from Trust) $45k PA or less per beneficiary. Other than its BAU for the rest.
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Max Groucho@MaxGroucho1·
@Larryjamieson_ not a silver bullet, but i’m exploring the idea of investing under pty ltd giving you franking credits and deferred tax benefits.
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Buyback Capital@Larryjamieson_·
all of my investing group chats have moved to immigration and tax minimisation group chats
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Max Groucho@MaxGroucho1·
@fulovitboss @climate_is_ok let me know how you go. i’ve been asking AI and running scenario testing all morning around different combinations of personal income, dividend income and capital gains across putting it in company vs just personal name
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Jet Ski Bandit@fulovitboss·
Whenever the smart people work out the best new tax structure for trading the stock market please share it around. I'm going to miss the 12 month CGT tax discount incentive after next June. I'll definitely not be investing in the stock market for as long anymore.
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Renting Rent-Seeker@climate_is_ok·
@MaxGroucho1 @fulovitboss Company structure best going forward imo Depends on individual circumstances. Superannuation better but locked away. PPOR still a tax haven but large and illiquid
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Renting Rent-Seeker@climate_is_ok·
Also company is better than trust because the credits for paid tax still flow through to the shareholder receiving the dividends whereas the proposed changes stop that happening; excess credits received by individuals are lost and companies cannot receive them at all i.e. double taxation
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Max Groucho
Max Groucho@MaxGroucho1·
@climate_is_ok @fulovitboss the drawback is that unlike discretionary trusts, as name suggests, you can’t decide which shareholder gets what % of those franked dividends and thus those tax credits? in any case 30% has already been paid…so it’s no better than personal or trust tax? only benefit is deferral?
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Renting Rent-Seeker@climate_is_ok·
@MaxGroucho1 @fulovitboss The company can pay franked dividends to shareholders i.e. with 30% tax credit attached. If/when shareholders are not receiving other sources of income the credits become a refund for the lower marginal brackets of income. Also the company can choose when to distribute income
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Renting Rent-Seeker@climate_is_ok·
@fulovitboss At this point I think a pty ltd is the way to go (outside of super and poor) The family investco can compound and/or pay franked dividends to shareholders
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LambDownUnder@LambDownUnder·
@hTLbLiNk @fulovitboss Already do. But you can have investing stocks and trading stocks as well. Just because you're a trader doesn't mean you don't get the 50% disc on long term holdings.
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Trading Warz
Trading Warz@TradingWarz·
Options on the SP500 changed my life I sold over 1500 puts in 1 year all expiring worthless and then I add leaps for huge multi baggers I spend 15 minutes per week on sunday night futures selling options for the week and ive generated over 85k with PERFECT win rate The dark secret in the market is they want retail to chase 0 dte and OTM where the big boys are selling it! Im starting a new small and large account challenge this year where i will teach you step by step in real time I will be making videos on YouTube and doing spaces all NO CHARGE Comment "ME" and I will post the COURSE and Tracker
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