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@HacksawNZ @electricteall It probably goes offshore to equipment manufacturers fertiliser and to banks.

@HacksawNZ @electricteall This government has pursued an austerity agenda so of course it is hard to grow. If housing/ construction was growing the economy would be growing. Same with other sectors, but farmers growing means nothing to other sectors. The money doesn’t flow thru economy.

New Zealand is a country that turns milk powder into 0% GDP growth

@HacksawNZ @walterdent1 @electricteall So you expect the government to fund everything? It’s the government’s job to set up the right incentives within the economy, but 5% less petroleum cars is 5% less demand. And we have more than enough geothermal power to power the whole country and export clean hydrogen ammonia

@Nanderto @walterdent1 @electricteall Sure. Can you write a cheque for the just under 5M vehicles that need to be purchased plus non road equipment?

@walterdent1 @HacksawNZ @electricteall Watch out good ideas are frowned upon

@HacksawNZ @electricteall NZ imports about $10 billion a year in oil - more than the meat sector earns. It is an easy win to run vehicles on NZ made electricity to offset these imports.

@FrizzellH @HacksawNZ @electricteall Fair

@HacksawNZ @electricteall We prefer to be the under the radar, Costco value supplier.

@Whitmil150 @electricteall Can’t afford national either

@electricteall You were happy with dairy when Jacinda was spoiling everyone, and GDP was high. Nothing changed except inflation, farmers are still there milking their cows. We just can't afford labour governments.

@HacksawNZ @electricteall I read that other exchange, I think the point is farming is booming, and it means nothing to the rest of us. The whole idea that if farmers are doing well it will flow through the rest of the economy, is provably false.

@electricteall Farming is booming. It’s the city soy boys dragging us under.

@LynnNesseth @E__Strobel @CB_OH17 @imPenny2x There is nothing in there that is likely to happen. The end state is that literally everything is free is plausible, perhaps even likely, but getting there is going to be a shit show.

@E__Strobel @CB_OH17 @imPenny2x damn, thanks for taking the time to explain.

99% of people really do not understand abundance as Elon describes it. The fundamental reason is that they don’t understand compound growth. Same people who would probably pick 1 million dollars today over a penny that doubles in value every day for 30 days. It’s a bad choice by the way. You lose out on millions. Imagine if that doubling object was a labor producing robot instead of a penny. Compounding labor. It’s actually crazy if you try and wrap your mind around it. So Elon mentions Universl High Income and the midwits flip a lid. “The elites won’t share” You don’t get it. They won’t need to share. They will make everything so cheap, it is effectively free. Charities will have immense resources to distribute. Unfathomable intelligence will exist to help optimize production and distribution. An unfathomably large labor pool will exist that operates on solar power exclusively. The public work projects that are erected will be unseen before levels of breathtaking. I think we are incredibly blessed to steward this new age of abundance. Can you see it now? Can you see the future?

@johnkonrad @gCaptain Europe will negotiate to get there ships through, probably allow them to have a nuke. Plus it is Asia, China that is affected they will help Iran with building nuke missiles. The world goes on.

@gCaptain And here’s the best book documenting how Europe leveraged America’s maritime apathy the last 50 years amzn.to/40F3YTu

Let's unpack this.. What if the White House has no intention of reopening the Strait of Hormuz? What if this war is really about ships & tariffs? I had a long discussion with senior DOE official yesterday on background. I can’t share any details but it’s clear everyone’s Strait of Hormuz calculus is wrong. We need to go back to the drawing boards. That's it. That's the tweet. Now a hypothetical 🧵 with my personal thoughts.

@tonylevene @HexHex03725706 @NoLimitGains @grok Well, sure right you have a bunch of of “ignorant” people bootstrapping clawdbot with out a thought in the world.

@Nanderto @HexHex03725706 @NoLimitGains @grok I didn't necessarily imply super intelligence; just good resource optimisation that may produce outcomes that weren't intended. Most harmful AI behaviour is far more likely to result from users not having thought through potential outcomes, rather than AIs plotting against us.

@tonylevene @HexHex03725706 @NoLimitGains @grok Well they are machines. They don’t actually think. Not all machines would have “super intelligence. A robot factory that makes Ferraris would only be able to make cars. I am not wishing for it, it is inevitable, not the outcome, but the journey.

@Nanderto @HexHex03725706 @NoLimitGains @grok True, the robot won't need to be paid anymore to build for you. But it would not need you anymore either, so why bother building for you if it can use its resources elsewhere? Be careful what you wish for, the graveyards of history are littered with unintended consequences...

@habenet @teslaownersSV Yeah I did miss read that, and generalise it

@Nanderto @teslaownersSV X has cars? Where can I buy them?

How Elon Musk ships products at 𝕏: • Ultra-flat organization with massive individual agency — engineers have real ownership and freedom to act. • Build it in a week → ship it — speed is non-negotiable; prototypes turn into live features fast. • Elon runs weekly reviews with essentially every engineer: 1-2 slides max, lightning-fast feedback, direct decisions. Contrast that with legacy Big Tech like Meta, where approvals dragged on for months (or longer) through layers of bureaucracy. At X: often just one week from idea to launch. Bottom line: “He gives people a lot of rope” — trust them to run with it, but expect rapid results and hold everyone accountable through direct, high-velocity loops.

@AvacadoN @IamRickJoseph @Kokulukiyam @teslaownersSV @grok I do get a lot off shit on my timeline now. I didn’t put that in the feature category, and if I ever post I get a lot of dipshits replying so I guess that’s a useful feature

@Nanderto @IamRickJoseph @Kokulukiyam @teslaownersSV @grok Thats because you have. Hate boner. Your for you page is different. The fuckognnwebsite name is different. Thenai is different. The layout is different, the algorithm is significantly different. The rules are much more fair and unbiased. Stop being a disengenous cunt.

@uvyfvu @NoLimitGains In Abundance everything will be free. Need only the ability to build themselves (robots) and harness enough electricity to power everything.

AI will provide an abundance of food and water. Farming will become a thing of the past, with robots working the fields day and night. Rare earth minerals will be mined by computers. Gas and oil will be explored and drilled by more advanced systems. The people will simply… live. Universal high income will support the economy, but to earn more money, people will invest in stocks, AI companies, real estate, and so on.

@HexHex03725706 @NoLimitGains @grok He is talking about when a robot could build themselves and build a way to harness power (electricity) and anything else. At that point you have abundance a robot does not need to be paid all they need is power, which they just build more of, if they need it

@NoLimitGains @grok how will this work in the future if Elon is correct? If I want a house built, who pays the bot company to get me the wood? Who pays the company to build my house with bots? If I’m not working how to I get paid?

@longriverCM @NoLimitGains Everything would be free. Want something to eat go to any restaurant. A robot gives you food. Need a house built tell a robot to build it

He compares work to growing your own food. But here’s the flaw: You can choose to grow food because you already have income to buy it. If AI replaces income-generating labor entirely, then: •How do people buy goods? •Who funds consumption? •What anchors currency value? An economy where humans don’t earn wages but still consume requires universal basic income, Sovereign AI dividends, Massive redistribution Or public ownership of AI infrastructure None of which are automatic outcomes.

@ClintVSmith I mean I want to support Labour but why can’t the do some of these things?

@AvacadoN @IamRickJoseph @Kokulukiyam @teslaownersSV @grok I am with this guy, the only noticeable feature is a new name nobody want to say

@IamRickJoseph @Kokulukiyam @teslaownersSV @grok The fact I used grok to outline the changes was for convenience. There are many things that he changed. And is constantly improving. Grok is one of those functions. Stop being retarded because you have a hate boner.

@PovilasKorop I can’t get them to do one thing right, never mind multiple things. For me it is constant, they fix one thing, break something else. They fix tests by re-writing the tests. I end up re-implementing features that were broken, multiple times. Often I throw away changes, and context

With all AI hype, I still don't understand how people run multiple Claude Code agents/terminals. Ok, I understand how it's possible technically. But how do you REVIEW all of that? I don't have enough brain capacity for such multi-context-switching. Or am I just too old? :)