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Patrick Ross

@OutlawTory

Nobel Prize for Horses, Runner Up Winner. Turkey studies professor. Dragon believer. Joe Hendry non-believer.

Alberta Katılım Kasım 2009
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Patrick Ross@DragonFireIdeas·
No one has to agree on all things @hutchinson has to say. Nor does he have to agree with anyone else. But his experience reminds us that Snarkers are the common enemy of all decent people. #USpoli youtu.be/GxR-IW7ut5c?si…
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Patrick Ross@OutlawTory·
@FlowJunkie311 @dstaples Whether or not I would want my daughter to make the choices EM did is immaterial to this case and is your attempt at a manipulation. I won't indulge you in that.
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FlowJunkie@FlowJunkie311·
@OutlawTory @dstaples I just don’t believe you would want your daughter put in that position even if you believe she 100% consented when the other players arrived. It’s putting her in that position in the 1st place that is the misconduct and a failure of duty of care. Fair enough not criminal.
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David Staples@dstaples·
Lots to hate about the Vegas franchise. But giving a second chance to Carter Hart isn't one of them. The judge in the case didn't just find no guilt, she exonerated the accused. finding as a matter of fact there was no sexual assault, that the sex was consensual. If you're curious to know the facts of the Hart and his Hockey Canada teammates case, here is summary of the 11 key findings of fact in judge Maria Carroccia's ruling: 1. That Carroccia found the complainant, E.M., to be both unreliable and not credible in her testimony about the events of the night in question, June. 18, 2018 in London, Ontario. More than that, Carroccia found that E.M. had given her consent to the sex acts with the men that night. The Hockey Canada Five were always presumed innocent until found guilty under our system, but Carroccia’s finding does more than find them not guilty. It essentially exonerates them, though we will all likely agree that they acted in poor and immature fashion that night and needed to do more to treat E.M. with care. 2. The judge also found that the notion “believe all women” is a political slogan, but goes against fundamental Canadian values that work to ensure that no innocent person is found guilty without a fair trial. 3. That key video evidence from Jack’s Bar where E.M. met Michael McLeod and other Hockey Canada players that night forcefully and completely contradicts what E.M. said about the players initiating overt sexual contact on the dance flooor, and that E.M., in fact, put her hand on McLeod’s crotch area on the dance floor. 4. That key video evidence from the bar that night forcefully and completely contradicts what E.M. claimed about getting plied with drinks from the players. In fact, E.M. bought almost all of her own drinks. 5. That key video evidence contradicts what E.M. claimed about the players trying to separate her from her friends. 6. That key video evidence and E.M’s own testimony contradicts her claim that she was completely out of it that night due to alcohol consumption. 7. That E.M. had reasons to fabricate a false narrative based on numerous factors, including making things right with her own boyfriend. 8. There was repeated and consistent testimony, including from Crown witnesses Tyler Steenbergen and Brett Howden, that E.M. pushed for the players to engage with sex acts with her, and in the end Carroccia accepted this evidence as fact. 9. That there was numerous evidence of E.M.’s testimony been unreliable. 10. That E.M. had several opportunities to get dressed and to leave if she was fearful, but she left the bathroom where her clothes were and walked naked into the room full of players to continue on with their evening. This dynamic started after she had admittedly had consensual sex with McLeod. 11. That the players group chat the following day was not an effort to fabricate a story, but a group decision to simply tell the truth about what had happened with E.M.
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monkerton@Someoneguy19·
@ProfessorLGRW @dstaples Do you not understand the level of evidence needed for probable cause versus guilt? Lol are you a child and genuinely don't understand this or just disingenuous?
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The Professor@ProfessorLGRW·
@OutlawTory @Someoneguy19 @dstaples Oh yeah, absolutely. 100% Too interested to see why this happened. You changed your tune and started doing the Canadian internet thing at this exact moment: x.com/i/status/20577…
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@OutlawTory @Someoneguy19 @dstaples You aren't allowing yourself to acknowledge the SICK FUCK text messages that were catalogued as evidence. And the only place to go from here is to tell me I'm wrong, you're acknowledging them, and you don't have a problem with them at all. Pick a fucking lane, you sick fuck

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The Professor@ProfessorLGRW·
@OutlawTory @Someoneguy19 @dstaples You aren't allowing yourself to acknowledge the SICK FUCK text messages that were catalogued as evidence. And the only place to go from here is to tell me I'm wrong, you're acknowledging them, and you don't have a problem with them at all. Pick a fucking lane, you sick fuck
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Patrick Ross@OutlawTory·
@CoryBMorgan They remember where they're from while loving where they are. I dig it.
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Patrick Ross@OutlawTory·
Hey, bud, sorry the facts all lined up against your little narrative. A real shame it is. The original investigation concluded correctly. The political interference only accomplished a waste of valuable court time & tqxpayer money, and wasted rage from losers like yourself who can't accept the facts, let alone the result.
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The Professor@ProfessorLGRW·
If that's all , why no countersuits? I sure as fuck would if it was me. Once again, they were arrested and tried. Weird trial how the jury was dismissed. That seemed a bit political as well. Here's the thing, I unfortunately got to see the text messages. This makes it unbelievably clear that they're sick fuck losers. Confirmed. Weird group to be writing paragraphs defending because an investigation didn't land an arrest right away or whatever your argument it. LMAO
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Patrick Ross@OutlawTory·
Actually, there WERE issues as to probable cause and evidence. The original investigation concluded - entirely correctly - that there was no probable cause for an arrest. The investigation was reopened only after political interference by government. Then it failed because the evidence proved consent.
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The Professor@ProfessorLGRW·
You're doing the same thing, champ. I'm pointing out the fact that David has clearly picked a side, and all of you should look real hard at the fact they were arrested, charged and brought to trial without issue due to evidence, probable cause, etc. I know exactly how hard it is to prove guilt in this scenario, that's why the Howden stuff was extraordinarily critical to doing exactly that. Unfortunately, he is on record talking out of both sides of his mouth and I don't have to pick a side here at all to know what's going on. I'd tone down the dramatics and man up a bit here, big boy.
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