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@CometX_ing Ain’t no correlation. Emma is 16 in XY. ZA takes place 5 years after that. The episodes where Roy and Ult stayed at Emma’s place show her XY 16 year old self. And yet only 1 year for the time skip happened. So how is she now 21?

@TheTruth_2_5280 We don’t know when SV and ZA take place relative to one another.

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@GingerB63087 Ah, I can see now why I can’t get through. I am not dealing with a moron. I am dealing with a full blown retard. Ok fine, I’ll let you continue to live in your delusions whilst trying to cope with the fact that Red is a washed up has been on your own terms. Have a life.

@TheTruth_2_5280 I do know this, and it means nothing, blocking attacks is not difficult and especially not in the anime where Pokémon moves look pathetic and are nerfed whenever is convenient. You're just plagiarizing from the powerscaling wiki because you yourself have no real argument

@GingerB63087 Cynthia’s Garchomp used its Draco Meteor and it canceled out Palkia’s Spacial Rend. This happened during the conclusion of the Galactic arc in the DP anime. If you actually weren’t a bitch and actually watch the show, you’d know this.

@GingerB63087 And yet you yourself claim Red fighting other champions as canon? You’re a hypocritical loser who constantly has moved the goalposts since this inane argument started.

@TheTruth_2_5280 You do know Canonicity in Pokémon doesn't exist right? The champions in the PWT are all still the champions of their regions despite BW2 taking place 15 years after DPP and HGSS, what's "canon" is determined by what game freak decides wants to be canon

If Ash (Journeys team) and Red (HGSS) battled who do you think would win and why?

@GingerB63087 You’re gonna sit here and pretend those mid tier trash can tank a Z move that can one shot the likes of Steven’s Mega Metagross, the same said Metagross that is on par with the god of the ocean? Ok, loser.

@TheTruth_2_5280 He can't, Snorlax and Venusaur tank it, and Red's Pikachu is holding a light ball which OHKOs Ash's Pikachu with Volt Tackle

Thunderbolt on Gengar would fry half of Red's team

@GingerB63087 Then your argument is as shallow as you claim mine to be. Either both of these instances are just as likely to happen, or neither of them are. You selectively choosing which of these outcomes is canon and what aren’t shows you have no genuinely platform to stand on.

@TheTruth_2_5280 I also never said that Red doesn't fight the player, I just said that the PWT doesn't have any results, and if you lose the game acknowledges the loss.

@GingerB63087 Your constant attempt at moving the goalpost is not only disingenuous to the argument, but it also proves that you are far too stubborn to accept the facts. Here’s an idea, Ash can simply drop his Z move and instantly KO literally any one of Red’s Pokemon.

@TheTruth_2_5280 That's only presuming that Snorlax doesn't have a berry to heal the burn, which it would if it's running Rest, and meteor assault requires a recharge turn so then it would be vulnerable to any attack

@GingerB63087 Not that it makes much of a difference there, either. The anime counterparts of the champions are far stronger than their game counterparts, anyways. Cynthia’s Garchomp in anime can parry Palkia, and that’s even before Mega Evolving.

@GingerB63087 Red has never canonically fought any of these guys, you blithering imbecile. If you’re gonna make some asinine statement saying how Red can ‘fight’ them in BW2, then your earlier statement saying him losing to the protags is made invalid.

@GingerB63087 Wrong Red, moron. HGSS Red is the point of discussion. Even if Red did have them, his pokemon are literally 20 lvls weaker than when he was a kid. How did Red get WORSE as a trainer by getting older? The answer? He fell off. The only reason you like him is cuz you think ur him.

@TheTruth_2_5280 Megas and Z-Moves actually, I know you've seen this list. Masters also technically gives him Gmax and Tera but we can ignore that for now.

@GingerB63087 only Mega timeline and Origins Red have Mega Zard. The debate is HGSS Red, who has ZERO gimmicks at his side. Even if he did have Zard X, it still loses to half of Ash’s. Also, none of Red’s Pokemon in HGSS know Dragon moves. Goes to show you never did your homework.

@TheTruth_2_5280 Charizard can mega X and dragon dance plus a tough claws boosted stab dragon claw, or zard Y with dragon pulse which also sets up sun to weaken water moves. Blastoise also tanks Dracovish and 2 dragon pulses will take it out.

@GingerB63087 Ash doesn’t need to switch to Lucario. Once Gengar burns Snorlax, his offensive presence is crippled. At that point, Ash could use Sirfetch’d and OHKO with Meteor Assault.

@TheTruth_2_5280 Snorlax also completely tanks Gengar and if Ash switches from Gengar to Lucario while Snorlax is still up it will take an EQ to the face upon switch in, to which then a switch to one of his starters will finish Lucario off

@GingerB63087 Red has literally never fought any of these champions. Not even Lance was Champ tier in Red/Blue, and even then, the anime Champions scale far higher in power. Steven’s Mega Metagross fought on par with Primal Kyogre, and Ash beat him. Red has no single feat that compares.

@GingerB63087 Ash defeated Iris, who became Unova Champ. Wallace just prior to Masters 8 (and he was champion in the anime during the Hoenn/Sinnoh Saga), and he beat Steven, Cynthia and Leon. Not to mention he gave Diantha a thrashing in XYZ.

It’s embarrassing how there are still so many people out there who still believe Red can beat Ash. Ash has been able to defeat Red ever since the XY days. Red has done nothing but lose to other protags the second we stopped controlling him.

@GingerB63087 And Dragon claw from whom? Charizard cannot KO any dragon type with a non stab, unbolted Dragon Claw. Certainly not with that attack stat. Dracovish is notoriously known in game to demolish even types that resist water with Fishious Rend. It’s a wrap for Red.

@GingerB63087 Whether is Anime or Game Red, he literally only has Mega Evolution, and only in Sun and moon and Let’s Go, where his team is literally weaker lvl wise than in HGSS. And what good does EQ do when Ash’s Fighting types blitz through half of Red’s team?

@GingerB63087 @PokeDailyPost Red lost to Ethan/Gold at Mt. Silver. He loses to Nate/Rosa at the PWC in B2W2. He loses to the SM/USUM protagonists, which count as 2 different iterations, and to top it off, he loses to the goobers from Let’s Go. Non canon, my ass. That’s just you trying to cope.

@TheTruth_2_5280 @PokeDailyPost Ash has lost 30x more to way less impressive trainers, and 3 of those Red losses aren't even canon.

@GingerB63087 Ash literally fought and beat 5 of the world’s regional champions, 3 of whom used gimmicks like Dynamax and Megas. What’s a FORMER regional champ like Red to a WORLD CHAMP Ash.

@TheTruth_2_5280 Also Ash would get 6-0'd by every single one of those protagonists so that's not even a comparison

@Sleepin_Aint_EZ @PokeDailyPost You’re joking, right? Origins Red literally changed his team constantly. And you could even say his game version does, too. In HGSS, his team is high 80’s, but when he’s older in Sun/Moon, his team is 20 lvls weaker. Either he ditched his old guys or they went soft. Your pick.

@PokeDailyPost Red would win because he never replaces his pokemon constantly and only makes them stronger.