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@yusukjm @zmdouzi @Wanan666666 Our ancestor?our ancestor is Lạc Việt people(雒越人)and missing the materialist mindset?i send the evidence and you just cant accept the truth. Do you know who's your ancestor? Let me list:Nanman tribes(南蛮族),normandic north people(北方游牧民族),xirong people(西戎人)and japan

@TruongAng24868 @zmdouzi @Wanan666666 知道你祖宗是誰嗎？沒有客觀唯物主義的精神,自欺欺人。

a 16th century annamese family

@mingyuerugu @charlichan81 @Wanan666666 @zmdouzi Have i being jealous?Come on stop being so delusional. You arr not gonna be the main character

@TruongAng24868 @charlichan81 @Wanan666666 @zmdouzi Love yourself,don't be jealous of beautiful Chinese Hanfu.

@mingyuerugu @charlichan81 @Wanan666666 @zmdouzi Im not blind,i learn history with different perspective.If you really thing im blind then thats your opinion.Becuz the one who is blind is the one who though they were right. Im not defend the post more so ok,believe what you believe

@TruongAng24868 @charlichan81 @Wanan666666 @zmdouzi Are you blind?Learn some history before surfing the Internet.

@zmdouzi @Wanan666666 Ok,i dont even defend the post anymore.I dont even know if the author is Vietnamese or not so ok

@TruongAng24868 @Wanan666666 mamianqun确实漂亮，但不是只有刺绣的才是mamianqun，不管是黑色白色各种各样的纯色外观结构剪裁是mamianqun的样式就是mamianqun，第一个就是mamianqun，黄色纯色版本，画师画的就是mamianqun，你能明白吗？

@zmdouzi @Wanan666666 Ok,if that make you sleep at night then i respect it

@TruongAng24868 @Wanan666666 🥲🥲你到底想表达什么，我一开始就跟你说了，文物不像mamianqun，但是作者画的就是mamianqun，作者也说了画的就是mamianqun，你要跟我扯到什么时候，这幅画女生穿的裙子就是mamianqun的外观能理解吗？

@zmdouzi @Wanan666666 Colourful mamianqun is beautiful,all type mamianqun is beautiful.That is a fact said by me

@TruongAng24868 @Wanan666666 还是你以为有刺绣的才是mamianqun，纯色的不算mamianqun？

@mingyuerugu @charlichan81 @Wanan666666 @zmdouzi Steal your mamianqun and Hanfu?oh it so precious we made a thing called Thường and have 越服.But if you want to believed that hanfu,then ok,no more debate

@TruongAng24868 @charlichan81 @Wanan666666 @zmdouzi 畫師承認他自己畫的是馬面裙，我也拿出中國和越南的文物對比圖證明這是馬面裙，憑什麼你說了算？想偷漢服就直說，別裝模作樣x.com/i/status/20396…

@zmdouzi @Wanan666666 Second time using this 2 picture. So if he draw a man and say i drew a woman,is he right?So if you just blindly follow what the author say without seeing the artifact.I can pretty sure who's more silly and naive

@TruongAng24868 @Wanan666666 🤣你怎么那么搞笑，作者说画的就是mamianqun，而且画看起来就是mamianqun，狡辩有什么用

@mingyuerugu @charlichan81 @Wanan666666 @zmdouzi Oh okay? So if he draw a woman then say i drew a man,is he right? If he can say whatever he want and not all the thing he say will be right.He can say he drew hanfu and mamianqun,but you can do research yourself and see is the thing the author drew is mamianqun or thường

@TruongAng24868 @charlichan81 @Wanan666666 @zmdouzi 畫師承認他畫的是中國的馬面裙，不是越南的Thường

@zmdouzi @Wanan666666 Im asking you a last time if Da Vinci point to the Mona Lisa and say i drew a lion do you believe him?.The author may say he drew hanfu,but it doesnt mean hes right.If you really desperate to see real hanfu you should look up the internet and search汉服to sastify yourself

@TruongAng24868 @Wanan666666 作者画的就是mamianqun，回到最初作者画的是汉服🤷‍♂️

@mingyuerugu @charlichan81 @Wanan666666 @zmdouzi First you say that Vietphuc stole mamianqun,now you say not all pleated skirt and pant look like mamianqun. So that just prove my point the skirt in the post is a Vietnamese skirt and its different from mamianqun.Dont be blind Im defending the cloth,not the post and the author

@TruongAng24868 @charlichan81 @Wanan666666 @zmdouzi 😅Open your eyes,don't be blind.Not all pleated skirts and pants look like Chinese Hanfu Mamianqun. #hanfu #漢服 #馬面裙 x.com/i/status/20395…

@mcdowelll12 @zmdouzi @Wanan666666 Ok,np i dont even defend him,he wasnt research anything but rather ragebait and deleted his own comment. Idk if he is Vietnamese or not

@TruongAng24868 @zmdouzi @Wanan666666 The original post had the artifacts he provided as evidence, which was the picture I sent you - but now it seems he deleted it.

@mcdowelll12 @zmdouzi @Wanan666666 Mamianqun look very different,and he wasnt provide any artifact,i do,the author even said he was drawing hanfu,even though the art look different from hanfu

@TruongAng24868 @zmdouzi @Wanan666666 🤣🤣I mean the author drew it with a horse-face skirt, but the artifacts he provided aren't enough to back it up

@mcdowelll12 @zmdouzi @Wanan666666 Idk what are you trying to prove but just by sight i can say its not the same

@TruongAng24868 @zmdouzi @Wanan666666

@charlichan81 @mingyuerugu @Wanan666666 @zmdouzi This look similar to hanfu,but it was not hanfu. So i dont know why do you think Vietphuc is just 3 type of costume

@TruongAng24868 @mingyuerugu @Wanan666666 @zmdouzi 越服只能指代在越南本土化後的衣服，比如日平衣、五身衣之類的，在那之前，你的祖宗都知道自己穿的是漢服，那麼就不該把那些原原本本的漢服改名為越服，很多越南人用中國漢服的資料去復原了以後稱之為越服，這是不道德的

@mcdowelll12 @zmdouzi @Wanan666666 This is what the author draw and this is how ancient mamianqun look like

@zmdouzi @TruongAng24868 @Wanan666666 笑死我了🤣昨天那作者一直嘴硬這是馬面裙，今天這個人說“噢不 這一點也不像馬面裙”，可是一開始我們就說了那個作者的畫與文物不匹配啊

@zmdouzi @Wanan666666 Im not his friend like i said,i dont care what i say

@TruongAng24868 @Wanan666666 你发的文物不像mamianqun，我早就说了，然后作者画的是mamianqun，mamianqun是汉服体系，不是越南的，我也不知道这个作者画马面裙是想做什么，你们最好去讨论一下统一一下口径

@zmdouzi @Wanan666666 Im not the author friend,i dont care what he said.But here is 2 images of ancient mamianqun and what the author had drew

@TruongAng24868 @Wanan666666 我不都说了吗？你跟作者统一一下口径，文物不像mamianqun但是画的就是mamianqun🤷‍♂️很难理解吗

@mingyuerugu @Wanan666666 @zmdouzi Yea,im not even defending the author,im just defending the clothes. Mamianqun is Chinese skirt,do i say Mamianqun is 越服?.The word Hanfu didnt even had it full meaning until the 2000s.Ancient script wont support your point. In the old China,you just say you are wearing衣服

@TruongAng24868 @Wanan666666 @zmdouzi 你是在打畫師的臉，他口口聲聲說馬面裙是中國人的裙子😂越服是曆史記載找不到的現代詞，你的祖宗只聽過漢服沒聽過什麼鬼越服

@zmdouzi @Wanan666666 Do you know what a mamianqun look like,do that look similar to the the skirt from the post?.Im not defending the author or being stubborn. So if Da Vinci point at mona lisa and said i draw a tiger. Do you believed him or not. Now if you want a conversation without the word越服.ok

@TruongAng24868 @Wanan666666 画师在画mamianqun……你又说画师画的是“越服”，你不觉得你在自相矛盾吗？