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@MentorNotPseudo @PrimordialAA Everyone likes how transparently Bryan works. Unlike you guys who split crazy grants between your devs and screwed the users who have been testing your product for years.

@PrimordialAA Bryan, you are working hard like many other teams out there. Nobody is challenging that. What I feel weird is (1) the intravenous (2) the marketing you’re doing around that.

Sorry but not sorry. This is weird.

@PrimordialAA @cryptanted Hello dear stinky penguin @PrimordialAA . We're eight hours apart from canada. Can you give us an approximate checker time or can we go to bed tonight? thanks

@cryptanted Can you please say exactly what you find flawed in methodology or post specific false positives?

My last attempt. @PrimordialAA I am offering 1 ETH to someone who will explain why this cluster was accepted and wallets marked as Sybil’s. commonwealth.im/layerzero/disc… (Cluster 4) 1/3

@coinkritik @LayerZero_Labs how much has been said here without simple words

Two picture one Real Team! @LayerZero_Labs

@PrimordialAA @ryanzarick GN legends!!!

@ryanzarick and I made a pact. Neither of us leave this office until we’re done. Sleeping here until we’re wrapped

4:30am, need to sleep a few hours and then will be on for the next 24 hours straight. Back asap

@PrimordialAA Bryan, just think about that number, 1 million users. Just imagine that everyone in Amsterdam or Stockholm would be rewarded for using their favorite protocol. That's a million happy people. You will remain in our hearts forever, and we will use LZ as long as it exists.

Model 3 will be x3 early, 1x late (no bonus) Model 4 will be x3 early, +X tokens for any user who interacted after May 3rd (Snapshot+2 days). What should X be in model 4?

@PrimordialAA I'm not sure that I spent a lot on commissions compared to other users, but I used LZ for over a year from time to time when I needed it, I would prefer the first model.

Ok here are two runs of x3 early (tx only), x2 late, sybil removed -- Let's call this Model 1 from now on 25 - 10k Total entries: 964,866 Entries with 50-100 tokens: 817,383 (Sum:4un 37,221,712.59) Entries with > 100 - 1000 tokens: 144,497 (Sum: 31,036,056.55) Entries with > 1000 - 10000 tokens: 2,935 (Sum: 5,250,830.64) Entries with 10000 tokens: 51 (Sum: 510,000.00) 50 - 10k Total entries: 541,190 Entries with 50-100 tokens: 342,852 (Sum:4un 23,471,931.93) Entries with > 100 - 1000 tokens: 193,733 (Sum: 41,899,611.89) Entries with > 1000 - 10000 tokens: 4,529 (Sum: 7,939,471.13) Entries with 10000 tokens: 76 (Sum: 760,000.00) discuss -- more models coming

@PrimordialAA we love you too mr dear stinky penguin!

I $@&$ing love people I realize that a lot of this feedback atm is people talking their own self interest but just a massive effort from a ton of people all directed at 1 thing Bounty hunters have been amazing Community is amazing Our team has been amazing Love everyone

@PrimordialAA Brian, great job. Thank you for keeping us informed and listening to our opinion. Alpha behavior. I like the first model because more participants will be rewarded.

Ok let's talk some numbers. 23.8% of the supply is going directly to the community and builders. This does not include foundation, growth, etc. Directly to community. 8.5% of this is being distributed day 1 (5% core, 3% RFP, 0.5% community pool) The majority of the remainder will be given over the next 36 months with additional retroactive distribution every 12 months, along with some forward looking RFPs for builders. What does distribution actually look like on day 1? We've been running a bunch of distro sims and given we haven't finalized the final sybil #s or the final RFP #s it's a bit hard to say exactly but a general shape is emerging. These are before ANY sybil removal and ignoring any RFPs. I've toned down the number distributed in this to 7.5% to account for non-overlapping RFP/etc., so you can imagine this would be distro shape if it was strictly 7.5% for LZ Core. 6M starting addresses, 3M having only sent between 1-5 tx so assume those are mostly gone. 3M addresses remaining. Let's take an assumption of 0 sybil filtering and of 1M eligible addresses filtered (should have more exact #s on this later today) 25 min, model 1 Total entries: 847,332 (28.2% eligibility with 0 sybil filtering / 42.36% with 1M sybil filtered) Entries with 25-100 tokens: 718,227 (Sum: 31,584,258.69) Entries with > 100 - 1000 tokens: 124,103 (Sum: 29,308,527.08) Entries with > 1000 - 10000 tokens: 4,813 (Sum: 9,275,407.31) Entries with > 10000 tokens: 189 (Sum: 4,831,806.92) 50 min, model 1 Total entries: 440,149 (14.67% eligibility with 0 sybil filtering, 22.00% with 1M sybil filtered) Entries with 50-100 tokens: 274,359 (Sum: 18,625,838.81) Entries with > 100 - 1000 tokens: 158,695 (Sum: 37,329,913.21) Entries with > 1000 - 10000 tokens: 6,861 (Sum: 13,069,599.75) Entries with > 10000 tokens: 234 (Sum: 5,974,648.23) 25 min, model 2 Total entries: 823,376 (27.44% eligibility with 0 sybil filtering, 41.16% with 1M sybil filtered) Entries with 25-100 tokens: 694,774 (Sum: 30,491,067.23) Entries with > 100 - 1000 tokens: 122,448 (Sum: 29,352,999.82) Entries with > 1000 - 10000 tokens: 5,997 (Sum: 11,420,971.35) Entries with > 10000 tokens: 157 (Sum: 3,734,961.60) 50 min, model 2 Total entries: 424,462 (14.14% eligibility with 0 sybil filtering, 21.22% with 1M sybil filtered) Entries with 50-100 tokens: 261,903 (Sum: 17,773,131.19) Entries with > 100 - 1000 tokens: 154,205 (Sum: 36,763,465.73) Entries with > 1000 - 10000 tokens: 8,161 (Sum: 15,811,837.36) Entries with > 10000 tokens: 193 (Sum: 4,651,565.71) 14 - 42% eligibility roughly, min on core spread between 25 and 50 min, Numbers will continue to get more dialed in as final RFPs are cleaned up and sybil reports are finalized. Would love to hear some thoughts

@Bybit_Official @zksync #zkscam SCAM PROJECT!

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@PrimordialAA Brian, hats off to you and the team!

Ok so I see a lot more anticipation for the upcoming Sybil list or "The List" as people have started to reference it as. Let me explain what this list is and what it is not -- and what we hope will come from it long term. We started with an enormous amount of data, way more than we ever expected. 469 bonders putting up 0.5 ETH total ($1.6m bonded value) 3,800 threads created by the bonders 22,000 Clusters within the threads to be reviewed In order to make this manageable there are a few filters we set in place to be able to quickly evaluate quality of reports and whether they were worth reviewing in depth. First -- discard any clusters with < 20 addresses Second -- based on our placeholder eligibility, if <30% of the wallets in a given cluster were eligible we would put it to the back of the queue for review if there was enough time Third -- if any report flagged any of the top ~250 addresses it was quickly checked (and usually) discarded. This prevented people from cheekily sneaking in high value addresses into their clusters. From there it's been a pure slog, as everyone has seen from my own feed it's just been a battle. Hundreds of different methodologies, thousands of clusters, often time very hard to pin down unknown contracts or qualify statistical methods -- but it's a battle that had to be fought and I'm super happy about the end result here (will write more on this later). So the end result This report is going to be a large scale (20+) and industrial sybil list and how it relates to @LayerZero_Labs. We think the end result will have caught a massive amount of sybil, returned a massive amount back to real users, and be an amazing piece of research groundwork laid for the community to pick up the torch. What it WON'T be: By the nature of time and us not evaluating accounts that were unlikely to be eligible this means there is a ton of sybil that is NOT included in our list. Amazing reports that caught or may have caught sybil clusters but since there would be no reward for them since they had no eligibility they were discarded. This also means some low volume sybil accounts that are not included in the list who won't qualify for the core LZ distribution but will end up qualifying for some small amounts of RFPs. The issue with evaluating these is some of them have 1, 2, or 5 tx on LayerZero and when you're getting to that point the risk of false positives is much MUCH higher and we chose to err on the side protecting real users as much as possible and minimizing false positive risk. It's a tradeoff to make but we think the most practical one given the end goal. What we hope happens from here -- The @commondotxyz forum now has a permanent log of all 3,800 threads and 22,000 clusters. This is an INCREDIBLE resource and probably one of the greatest all time wide endeavours in combatting sybil. Our focus was on LZ related sybil but tons of the remaining may have high degrees of connection external to LZ with barely any LZ usage. We very much hope the effort continues after our portion is done and the torch is picked up and a final list is put together from the community. We would even be happy to issue a grant for a group to continue this work as it seems like an incredible resource to be wasted. I have absolutely blown away by the amazing research conducted by so many incredible analysts and sleuths. I have endless appreciation for all of you and hope everyone knows we have absolutely killed ourselves in pursuit of paying proper respect to the work you have done and getting through as many reports as possible (team was all here until 4am reviewing reports last night and back in first thing in the morning to continue reviewing). My thanks to all of you, we will have the final results available for public review this weekend and look forward to feedback and anything missed 🫡

@justinsuntron they scammed real users #zkscam

听说ZK项目不做人，是不是要抵制上线？

@OxTochi Read this thread and if you have enough brains you will understand why everyone says zk is a scam x.com/coinmetrika/st…

Zksync is a scam! Why? "I farmed with 37 wallets, I only got airdrop in 2 wallets." Lmao

Airdrop failure from @zkSync or where is the decentralization? Blockchain is a transparent territory. Traces remain, even if someone leaves an airstream for maneuvering. The @zksync team has made a sensation in the crypto community with the most opaque distribution possible. Some points are simply absurd. @gluk64 @frogmonkee @Ozhar @Yogi13031997 @stonecoldpat0 @TrustlessState @Caneleo55 @heycape_ @0x_Lens @gluk64 @TheZKNatiou #zksyncscam 1) 13,000 wallets with 0 tx in the zkSync network received an allocation. And what use are these users to the project if they haven't even come in contact with it? dune.com/realpeha/zksyn…

The @TheZKNation team are really stupid, they pay to buy bots to prove their opponents are bots, this is really ridiculous, you are the stupidest team in history @zksync #zksyncscam #ZKscam

@Ahmad_a_m_3 @TheZKNation @zksync I noticed that too

@Andrey_10gwei @zksync @gluk64 @frogmonkee @Ozhar @TrustlessState @PrimordialAA Now it’s clear why you said so many times that your team doesn’t farm. It seems our beloved penguin is the only one who plays by the rules fairly.

"New Low" for @zksync ScamERA: The Biggest Airdrop SCAM in Crypto I think it's no longer news to anyone that teams distribute tokens to themselves through airdrops. ZkSync has taken this practice further than anyone else @gluk64 @frogmonkee @Ozhar @TrustlessState #zksyncscam

@TrustlessState @SECGov @GaryGensler you are a corrupt asshole calling real users sybils!

Reminder: The fighting between Sybilers vs Users vs Teams is due to @SECGov failure This behavior is the opposite of fair and orderly markets Capital is being misallocated and destroyed thanks to the @GaryGensler paradigm

@TrustlessState @RyanSAdams You guys manipulate public opinion in the same way as the Silil farmers whom you accuse. You focus only on those comments that prove your point of view and do not pay attention to the comments of ordinary users, of which there are now many more.

@RyanSAdams "Reduce the allocation for the team, and reduce the allocation for the fat tail of users, and give it to the bottom 1M wallets based on highly sybilable criteria" 1.2k likes in 30 minutes

If industrial airdrop farmers can farm a token they can farm the social layer Twitter is less sybil resistant than more airdrops - assume industrial sybillers are using it to sway public opinion toward their interests after every airdrop

@RyanSAdams You guys manipulate public opinion in the same way as the Silil farmers whom you accuse. You focus only on those comments that prove your point of view and do not pay attention to the comments of ordinary users, of which there are now many more.

@TrustlessState @zksync @bankless I've been using ZK since lite and haven't gotten anything!

I am collecting feedback on the @zksync $ZK token drop Let me know your thoughts! 👇 If you're in the @bankless discord, you can @ me in the Airdrop Hunter channel directly too