Kuxir

@roxy_wodka @LouisWordGenius The person I'm replying to said it used to be normal and affordable for normal people to hire people to drive to stores and pick up food for them. Personal servants were never in vogue

@kuxir @LouisWordGenius you're literally making up a dude to get mad at

@JustParody703 @LouisWordGenius Todays delivery is more expensive because people get paid more. A $10 burrito costs $25 because you're paying someone for half an hour of their time.

@kuxir @LouisWordGenius I think you’re fundamentally misunderstanding what I’m saying. Today’s delivery is more expensive because third parties manage it Most zoomers don’t know of ordering directly from a local place They get a wider variety at a greater cost and their drivers are worse off

@JustParody703 @LouisWordGenius Yeah so a significant portion of your income was tips and tax fraud. And you want that part of the income to go away to make delivery more affordable? (At a time when more people then ever are able to afford delivery)

@kuxir @LouisWordGenius I was a pizza delivery driver back in the mid 2010s, I got paid an hourly rate and a delivery rate. My daily pay was a combination of hourly pay, delivery rate, and tips. The open secret was to underreport your cash tips

@JustParody703 @LouisWordGenius Do you think the money to pay the drivers comes out of thin air? Did you not tip your drivers? How are you expecting someone to personally drive on your behalf to pick up food and not expect to get charged for it?

@kuxir @LouisWordGenius Tbf when delivery was more limited each place had dedicated drivers and a limited service area. Drivers were actual employees and got paid the entire shift regardless of deliveries

@gatorbff @LouisWordGenius How do you expect your food to get delivered without covering the costs of the driver? Do you think it costs nothing to pays some to take your food and drive it to you personally?

@kuxir @LouisWordGenius delivery drivers are literally paid a standard kitchen wage + tip and is one of the best food/retail jobs that exists 😭 literally my only complaint is that they deserve extra for gas and car maintenance lol

@stationerycar @RexDouglass So you don't have any examples of fields that regularly would produce 0 citation papers?

@kuxir @RexDouglass Thats very cool man.

As usual, there's this weird cheerleaders vs crazies divide. Citations are a beginner's skill, so a ton of people have irrationally strong attachment to it because they're proud they can at least do that part OK. They have an undergrad level rules based take not a scientific one.

@stationerycar @RexDouglass Do you understand how the conjunction 'or' works? For example if I say: X or Y are valid. Then a response saying "X doesn't make any sense" would be totally fine.

@kuxir @RexDouglass Oh i see. So if you read the whole comment, you will se that further down it says "or *whatever is helpful to the stated purpose of the paper*". Hope that helps.

@stationerycar @RexDouglass What's a field of study that commonly has papers that aren't based on any prior work?

@kuxir @RexDouglass Have you been living under a rock for the last 3 days?

@DrJamesCMorgan @v_j_freeman That's crazy, there's also penthouses in manhattan that cost 80,000 a month and you wouldn't be able to afford for £600. What's your point? Do you think spending £600/mo on DD and complaining about not being able to afford to rent your own place are compatible?

@kuxir @v_j_freeman If someone spends £20 on a delivery meal every day it's £600 per month. So it's a lot, but my last rent for a room in a 4 bed house in London was £850

How to say you’ve never really been poor without saying you’ve never really been poor. If you are genuinely strapped you have to make every £/$ into a meal. You’re prepping because you have no choice. No-one, & I do mean no-one, in genuine ‘poverty’ is getting food delivered.

@hoofnagle Every student has access to undetectable ways of using grade-inflating technology. Many of them ARE and WILL continue using it. This BLATANTLY OBVIOUS to EVERY STUDENT. You're institutionally punishing integrity with class rank and GPA.

Berkeley law has introduced a new, much stricter AI policy law.berkeley.edu/wp-content/upl…

@xolotl9x @Legal_Fil The actual complain here is that people are submitting AI generated completely fake citations.

@Legal_Fil Outright plagiarism is MUCH worse than reading only the abstract on a citation (which is actually the complaint here).

Academics defending not reading citations is of a piece with the effort to pretend plagiarism is a minor infraction (which took off after many, including Claudine Gay, were caught engaging in it). 1/

@stationerycar @RexDouglass Why would serious papers not have many citations? Do you think that it's common for papers to be published that aren't based upon or use any prior work at all?

@RexDouglass Almost. Reviewers require many citations to pad the paper for form, and the researchers oblige. If they were serious, they would produce papers with zero or 1 citations, or *whatever is helpful to the stated purpose of the paper*, not pad with plausible trash like a bad student.

@djmedinah @RexDouglass The ritualistic act... of providing the source of the claims you're basing your research off of?

@RexDouglass It’s a demonstration of the ritualistic aspect of academia. You can say “hey, this is how priesthood works,” which is probably true enough. But if so then have humility for having non-scientific aspects to the profession

@KnavishKnavery @abbythelibb_ @JoelWBerry Someone making 54k a year does not pay 30% in taxes. You're missing ~500$ right off the bat. 20k+ car? $100 phone payment for what the newest iphone? $400 for one person's groceries? Recreation is split into 3? ($160) That's a total of ~$1340 on discretionary spend every MONTH!

I’m a fan of yours and @JoelWBerry and others and typically see eye to eye on most issues but I feel like I need to push back a bit. Using round math and averages here is a look inside how unaffordable it is for a single person trying to make it on their own. Say a man is making $54,000 a year. His take home pay each month is $3,200 (that’s with taxes and insurance removed). Here are low ball monthly expenses: •Rent-$1,000 •Utilities-$200 •Used Car Payment-$400 •Cell Phone-$100 •Home Internet-$80 •Student Loan Payment-$400 •Groceries-$400 •Gas-$120 •Car Insurance-$100 •Average Non-Monthly occurring expenses (oil changes, bday presents, over the counter medicines, etc.)-$100 •Monthly subscriptions-$60 •Entertainment-$50 (coffee, drive-thru) •Pet Care (food, treats etc.)-$50 That leaves you notwithstanding an unexpected bill, emergency, etc approx. $140 bucks of “fluid” money after bills. That’s a single person, not married, no kids, and no unexpected expenses. That person is supposed to take that $140 each month and save it for 30 years in order to get a $50,000 down payment for a house saved? It’s impossible. I appreciate the honesty you and Joel and others share but the math literally doesn’t add up. And telling Millennials and Gen-Z to suck it up and eat an Aldi’s sammy isn’t cutting it. No shade. Just trying to tell it from a different perspective.

I'm starting to think the obesity problem in this country and the affordability problem are largely the same problem.

@MiskatonicProf @cenkuygur multi- More than one; many, especially variegated.

@cenkuygur Multi? It is less than 2 billion dollars. That is not multi. Do you know what multi means?

I wanted to write about something other than Israel, so I looked to see what we're doing for the American people. Liberace 2.0 is building a fabulous ballroom and setting up a multi-billion dollar slush fund for his friends. So, it turns out what we're doing for us is jack shit.

@itsandieaa @NeolibMICDemon @nosoup4knowles @Strippin yOU neED a CaR to gET to WOrK!

@NeolibMICDemon @nosoup4knowles @Strippin Paying 60k for a car is the same as buying lunch ? Are you people insane? Literally saying anything to defend these people that want you miserable. You will never be one of them. $28 meal is not a “Luxury establishment” be so serious.

This dude literally owns a restaurant that charges you $12 for FRIES in case anyone was wondering

@DrJamesCMorgan @v_j_freeman Doordashing with almost any regularity is a significant % of rent. 1 meal a day would more than cover rent in most places.

@v_j_freeman For the gen z figures I bet there's a load of kids living at home with no prospect of moving out so why not treat yourself to takeaways. So a structural problem even if not poverty

@alz_zyd_ @daniel_corcos You think it's unlikely that a paper with parts clearly copy-pasted from an llm and never checked or read has other parts that were copy-pasted but harder to spot?

@daniel_corcos unlikely but not impossible

The job of a researcher is to generate new knowledge. A couple hallucinated citations in a paper makes no difference if a paper contributes to knowledge

@stanislavfort @art_pleb Stop lying to everyone else here. You know EXACTLY the reason why they were cited and why people like that ask to be cited. This is entirely about fraudulently boosting papers and nothing to do with better informing readers.

There are different reasons to cite things. You can be using a method from a paper, comparing your results to theirs, or simply positioning your paper within the context of other scholarship. Different use cases require different amounts of rigor in terms of checking the detailed claims in the cited paper.

Lenka is correct here, Hunter is wrong. This is not a big deal. There are different kinds of citations in a paper on a spectrum from "I actually used this result in detail" (you read those carefully), all the way to "some people did something similar in this space" (you don't really read those in detail because they don't matter much for what you're writing anyway). What is the issue here exactly?