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@someone41474406 @LMSisTruth Those desires don't just go away and ultimately they will affect the quality of the relationship. This is one of the reasons the sex dries up after a while in marriages. And even if they don't, you really think guys should wait while women are being ran through? 🤢

Life isn’t a romantic comedy where people always get to be with the person they desire the most. Men will also always find other women they are way more attracted to. There will always be someone more attractive than you and any woman. But if you’re happier being alone, then good on you!

If they know so much about women, why can’t they get laid?

@someone41474406 @LMSisTruth Who wants to be the guy she settles for because she can't get with the guys she really wants!?

I appreciate the respect! Despite my sarcasm lol. Honestly, a LOT of the blackpill/incel rhetoric is undeniably true and I’m very sympathetic toward it and toward incels. Hypergamy is definitely real - to an extent. It’s not a black and white rule. There are hundreds of millions of women who realize eventually that their worth is not actually valued as high as they imagined, and they begin to lower their standards and expectations. Of course, it’s often maybe after their prime age (like late 20s to mid 30s), but like… if the goal is for companionship, love, support, and possibly procreation … then like, it’s possible to have a satisfying life. You just might need to wait a while longer. But if you don’t have the social skills to interact with even the desperate women, which is what has been happening especially after Covid, then like… yeah, it’s going to be a self-fulfilling prophecy of it being truly over. I completely understand that for some men, it’s truly over. Whether it’s due to appearances, disabilities, whatever. There are plenty of men in the world who likely won’t stand a chance unless they hire a hooker. Whereas im sure 99% of women could get sex and/or find love even if they’re a morbidly obese amputee. It’s not fair but that’s the way life seems to go. We live on ez mode in that regard. But this ideology has been spreading to completely fine, able-bodied youth and new adults (16-25) who are perfectly good looking enough to find a gf (might not end in marriage or be with the hottest chick ever, but they’d definitely be able to get laid or get a gf), and convince them it’s better to just give up instead of just like… putting themselves out there into uncomfortable, but potentially rewarding, social situations enough times where they meet someone because they’ve been taught that “its over”. Basically, in my opinion, anyone under 30 who is able-bodied and at least a 3-4/10 shouldn’t call themselves an incel. Unfortunately, it seems most of them are under 30 and are just shooting themselves in the foot! I apologize for my novel. I’ve been witnessing this happening slowly but surely for the past 5 years since I got introduced to the culture and soooo many self-proclaimed incels who are completely fine and dateable young men and I’m like “omg what are you doing to yourselves!?” If I wasn’t too old for them I’d date them myself!! I understand there’s a lot of nuance and other factors in the situation (like increase in feminist beliefs and also false rape/sexual harassment allegations). It’s easier said than done, but like… sooo many self-proclaimed incels wouldn’t be incels if they just put themselves out there more.

@someone41474406 @CaudilloNuclear If the outcome (being alone) is the same with or without the rejection, what point is there to "going outside and actually talking to women?"

Because they’re spending their days online arguing with women because some blackpill meme convinced them it was over and never began by 16, instead of going outside and actually talking to women. They’re convinced they’ll be rejected 100% of the time and the possibility of rejection is obviously waaaaay worse than spending your days alone and arguing with women forever.

@Aksinia00447 @estherzelda0514 I wish some of us would shut up too, but in some ways the fantasies are better than the drooling

@manthony_91 @estherzelda0514 Men could alternatively just shut up? But “she’s so hot” is a million times better than publicly fantasizing about how many dicks she’s taken

This 100%. Having normal thoughts about hot girls is not seething about how she's a foid gold digger and has a body count over 50. It is not normal to fantasize constantly about OTHER MEN fucking women you find attractive. You've been mentally cucked. It's over for you.

@J_TheExplorer How can someone you've never met make you cum through a screen?

@manthony_91 Then why do these chicks make him cum if he's sooooo repulsed by them.

I truly do think that p*rn has conditioned young men to imagine attractive women with other men Normal, healthy men go "She'd be so into me" even if it's not entirely true. But when your brain is THAT steeped in that content, it ruins your confidence and model of the world

@J_TheExplorer You think the guys watching porn actually *want* to get with the chicks in the videos? How repulsive.

Also, isn't it weird that men just accept watching the woman who they desire being f**** by other men? 🌽 just strips away all the masculinity, jealousy, desire to be that man instead of being the one on the chair watching and pleasuring himself. Men used to move mountains for women, now they just accept being bystanders.

@allie__voss @MateHR16 @wild_one1998 That doesn't make any sense

@MateHR16 @wild_one1998 Most women won’t be into you which is WHY confidence matters

@allie__voss Why would I want to believe "she'd be so into me" if it isn't true? She (or whoever posted the photo) is just looking to feed their ego and/or make money, and the desire of men is merely being used as a tool to reach that end. It's good that men are no longer playing that game.

@GiffLasta @ytelrpdls @JackNapierNot 'If your wife doesn't want to have sex with you it's your fault. You need to change. You need to do better.' Would you say this statement is true or false?

@manthony_91 @ytelrpdls @JackNapierNot If I blame anything, it’s the Industrial Revolution. But even then, I wouldn’t want to go back to the pre industrial world.

And what have women done to prevent men from attacking this power?

@GiffLasta @ytelrpdls @JackNapierNot You *do* blame the men. You cover it in long-winded ownership rhetoric, but when you boil it down that's exactly what you're doing.

@ytelrpdls @JackNapierNot Can't derive an "ought" from an "is." The red pill is a praxeology. I don't blame the men. I invite men to take on ownership and accountability, because it's the only way anything will change. Once you've established strong frame, you cand delegate some accountability to her.

@FraserVal_girl @Bloomuvol @RealPostFolder You keep saying "hE'S hEr BrOtHer!!!" as if having the same parents somehow imparts some kind of obligation on him.

@manthony_91 @Bloomuvol @RealPostFolder He's literally *her brother.* If you can't ask your family to do things for you, who then?

Managing all the 5 kids is a tremendous challenge. Asking someone to watch 4 children overnight is a massive ask and it's inconsiderate when they've got their own kids

@rdk4njf If you ask the average guy and the average girl, we'd probably have different standards for what we consider dehumanizing. That's one of the reasons this conversation is kinda difficult to have.

@manthony_91 please share where you find this tame porn because all the top sites are absolutely degenerate and dehumanizing. you’re either desensitized to it or haven’t been on a site in a long time.

I think Zoomer women hate porn because it makes them feel bad. sure, some of them probably read Andrea Dworkin or whatever, but a lot of it is just insecurity. and the insecurity is irrational. your bf isn't going to leave you for the sexy lady from the video. but our modern culture has a low tolerance for irrationality. so it ends up with this weird intellectualization of emotions.

@Itis_ls @rdk4njf Which categories would these be?

@manthony_91 @rdk4njf They're literally the most famous categories. Bro you guys are annoying me

@smalltown_wife If they're so "self-sufficient" why not just leave them at home alone? 🙄 Because that would be irresponsible, right?

@RealPostFolder the oldest kids are 12, 10 and 8, they are practically self-sufficient at those ages. I’d absolutely do it!

@LouiseCulmer1 @Hestia_Esq @RealPostFolder Who needs to pay a sitter when she has siblings she can guilt and emotionally manipulate into doing her bidding?

@Hestia_Esq @RealPostFolder Why can’t she just pay the sitter?

@FraserVal_girl @Bloomuvol @RealPostFolder Yes, *she's* having a baby, not him. Why does she think she can just pop out kids and then pawn responsibility for caring them onto other people for free regardless of how that might inconvenience them?

She's having a baby. As someone who has had 7 babies, that time is not exactly a luxury. He's her brother. They're likely in school if it's a week day so he needs to suck it up for 18-24 hours, 8 of which will be night time. If it's a weekend, go to the park or something. Make it fun. It's only a day and a bit.

@AM05710054 What does a "porn actress" look like? I think you'll find that there are women of all shapes, sizes, and body types in porn.

@Amina_io "your bf isn't going to leave you for the sexy lady from the video" maybe but it might destroy your sex life. A lot of men who constantly watch porn are basically incapable to have normal sex with a woman who's not looking like a porn actress. Like the tool is not working

@AllForAlina @diorobliquee One person? Wow!

@diorobliquee @Amina_io I know a girl whose boyfriend developed a porn addiction while he was in a relationship with her. He was the one that was turning down her advances and stopped initiating sex. That is how she found out about the porn addiction and broke up with him.

@rdk4njf That the "degenerate and dehumanizing" content is available does not mean that all or even most men are watching that stuff. The average guy's viewing materials are actually pretty tame.

@Amina_io This is extremely niave. Have you been on a porn site? It’s far from “a sexy lady in a video” It’s an infinite amount of the most degenerate and dehumanizing content designed to addict you and condition you.bDo you know the average age of exposure? My generation is warped from it