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MarginalTaxEnjoyer

@payeslave

Professional seat filler, typer of keyboards, payer of too much tax. Yes the road really is closed

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MarginalTaxEnjoyer
MarginalTaxEnjoyer@payeslave·
@jo3hill Par for the course with Khan. Funny how his concern about the Met’s fantasy relationship with procurement starts and ends where he thinks he can favourable headlines in the Guardian.
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Joe Hill
Joe Hill@jo3hill·
It’s important that Londoners are told what happened here. Badly run procurements would be one thing, and the Mayor should make sure the Met buy tech well. But if he’s blocking contracts for political motives then that’s shocking misconduct.
Politics UK@PolitlcsUK

City Hall, which must approve contracts of this size, withheld approval, saying the Met Police had seriously engaged with only one potential supplier, Palantir Khan's spokesperson said Londoners only wanted to see public money being paid to companies that "share the values of our city"

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Carole Cadwalladr
Carole Cadwalladr@carolecadwalla·
We’ve been doggedly reporting on Palantir’s contracts with UK state…& this latest one with Met police is both creepy & opaque. Met has used Palantir to spy on its own officers. If it can do this to its own employees…what about the rest of us? By Max Colbert & @LuciaOC_
THE NERVE@thenerve_news

NEW Fears over spread of Palantir’s influence after ‘Big Brother’ Met police project extended The staff surveillance pilot was due to expire last month. The Nerve has established that it was in fact extended to today, May 15, with no indication what happens next. 🔗⤵️

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MarginalTaxEnjoyer
MarginalTaxEnjoyer@payeslave·
@muttonshunter Long since thought the job should be more military about this. If they’re not on post, stagging on a weapon, or otherwise tasked, who the fuck cares. Sleep is admin, and an AFO drooling into a pillow is doing more productive work than any commander+ doing 80 hours of meetings.
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MarginalTaxEnjoyer
MarginalTaxEnjoyer@payeslave·
@BriW74 @DomAdlerUK @Outcome_Code_18 The last few iterations of the de-escalation pole haven’t been worth much at all. I’d have more confidence in my fists than the baton, and that’s not a brag about my boxing ability.
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MarginalTaxEnjoyer
MarginalTaxEnjoyer@payeslave·
@BriW74 @Outcome_Code_18 I knew plenty of people back in the day who wore the public order acrylic one day to day. Long since stamped out but reflected how that was a stick actually worth the name.
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Brian Williams@BriW74·
@Outcome_Code_18 I do like the Met's Camlock baton. If I was allowed the option I would go back to carrying the PR24.
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Outcome_Code_18@Outcome_Code_18·
@payeslave Yes, I should have said they're also good for not getting your fingers bitten off by Killer the XL Bully who smokes 40 a day.
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MarginalTaxEnjoyer
MarginalTaxEnjoyer@payeslave·
@sherlock_comms Was just having this exact conversation in our writing room. Consensus is the job just isn’t worth the control over your life that it demands. Decades of frontline experience all looking for the exit.
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MarginalTaxEnjoyer
MarginalTaxEnjoyer@payeslave·
There’s a famous internal story (that I choose to believe is true) which says that police wore the quavers packets at a royal event and HM Queen therefore sought out and personally bollocked the police commander for it. Even if not true, a worthwhile story for its message that police Hi Vis is never acceptable.
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Known prick
Known prick@on_pubwatch·
@boys_nicholas Mate of mine is a copper and said that whenever they did any royal occasion they all got a dressing down beforehand “NO HI VIS - THE QUEEN DOES NOT LIKE HI VIS” which presumably explains the lack of it in the photos above
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MarginalTaxEnjoyer
MarginalTaxEnjoyer@payeslave·
I believe in some things and not others, essentially down the line of common sense- I believe you saying you’ve seen people refuse foot patrol, I wouldn’t believe you if you brought up the emotional support snail. I think the change in expectations is a double edged sword. I would never have been allowed to question a Sergeant’s postings in the way I see it done by PCs now, bad change, but also when I joined I wasn’t permitted to sit within 3 tables of the area car drivers in the canteen. Good change (insofar as old school area car drivers still exist).
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@BMM1882·
@payeslave @sherlock_comms I would agree that conditioning and expectation management is a very real issue. When I have seen cases of, for instance, officers refusing to go out on foot (whether you choose to believe that or not…), they always looked as though they felt affronted by the request.
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MarginalTaxEnjoyer
MarginalTaxEnjoyer@payeslave·
I concur with everything you’ve said in the linked tweet. The only thing I would add is the explicit “we cannot afford the cost of replacing these buildings.” The area where I was a probie, we had 5 police stations. Those with 10 years on me could claim 8. Now there is 1. It’s a valuable area of London, and the cost of fixing that decline would probably hit the billions. For a single borough. A fraction of the damage done nationally. It’s done. We lost.
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@BMM1882·
@payeslave @LoZCollector @sherlock_comms Yes, the closure of physical police stations has done significant damage - when a police station is sold off, it’s not just the loss of a building. I wrote a slightly longer read on this a while ago concerning the station closures in the Metropolitan Police District:
@BMM1882

Genuinely baffled by the announced closure of 17 of the Met's few remaining Police Station front counters. Following the devastating closures of the 2010s the distribution of front counters was designed in such a way that each of the 32 boroughs would have a 24hr front counter. This isn't much at all when you consider that in 2010 there were 142 Police Stations (and numerous other buildings ranging from traffic garages to office buildings and more besides). Even that number was considerably less than the historic figure. The entire history of policing in London has been based on the beat system whereby you have local officers deploying from highly concentrated local Police Stations, all of which were accessible to the public. You still see similar in places such as New York (with the precinct system). Now, there's only equivalent to a single station open to the public in each borough, and not for much longer. Today, most ERPTs (response teams - the people who respond to 999 calls), neighbourhoods teams and other frontline units are centralised in one location on each borough (sometimes not even a Police Station but a 'patrol base', which can be a nondescript warehouse on an industrial estate). There is typically a single custody suite on each borough, too. Closing the few remaining front counters is an insane decision. Eventually, no doubt, these buildings will be sold off for short-lived financial gain. Many buildings within the Met estate are heritage assets (often Georgian or Victorian) which should never be lost, but some tragically already have and we will never get them back. I've even dined in one which is now a pizza restaurant! There will be unscrupulous developers salivating at the prospect of turning historic Met buildings into flats. ‘The cost of everything and the value of nothing’. One of the most egregious elements of all this is that many of the now lost Police Stations had front counters which were open thanks to the efforts of volunteers - there was no staffing cost, yet they were still closed (and in many cases those volunteers were abruptly discarded of). Other assets have been decimated, too. Hendon Police College is now a fraction of the size it was, with much of the former site occupied by blocks of flats. No doubt that will eventually be sold off (because training Police Officers with civilian instructors on university campuses is going so well). In some boroughs there are still some buildings which are operational but closed to the public, and if you walked past and didn't know what you were looking at, you wouldn't even realise. For example, in Tower Hamlets, only Bethnal Green Police Station HT still has a front counter (now earmarked for closure). However, Bow Road HW is open (just not to the public), Wapping is open (home to the Marine Policing Unit), Limehouse HH is open (converted to a firearms base along with Leman Street HL), and Grove Hall Police Garage is open. There's also MetCC Bow. Meanwhile, Isle of Dogs HI has been sold off - I imagine some of the others will follow, even though they could be maintained on a closed basis (or, dare I say, opened to the public again in future). This is just one borough. There are also local issues which this plan ignores. For example, Tottenham Police Station YR was selected to be Haringey's sole front counter. Wood Green Police Station YE would have made more sense owing to its central location in the borough (and at the time it had just been refurbished - including a brand new front office which has never been used), but Tottenham was chosen due to the historic tensions in the area. It was (wisely) thought that it was essential to maintain a physical presence in the area. Now, Tottenham nick is among those to be closed. I could say so much more about this. It goes beyond politics but both the Conservatives and Labour at GLA/Mayoral (Johnson and Khan) and central government level are responsible. This is an absolutely insane plan. 🚔

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MarginalTaxEnjoyer
MarginalTaxEnjoyer@payeslave·
@sherlock_comms @BMM1882 We’ve as much chance of teaching my dog to play chess as we have of convincing the political leadership in this country to take policing seriously enough to fix it.
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MarginalTaxEnjoyer
MarginalTaxEnjoyer@payeslave·
The old practices, such as fixed foot beats and regular patrols were predicated on having a significantly higher number of police stations, and a significantly lower bureaucratic burden. To get back to what we used to have would require capital investment on the scale of hundreds of new police stations, and an unprecedented scything of bureaucracy. Both technically possible but in practice a completely forlorn hope.
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Kyle Smith
Kyle Smith@LoZCollector·
@payeslave @BMM1882 @sherlock_comms Seems like it should be an easy fix, no? Just re-enstate the practices that worked in the past and purge the force of the kind of practices that have built up in the meantime? Fire those who don't meet the new (old) standards and hire from the same places we used to?
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MarginalTaxEnjoyer
MarginalTaxEnjoyer@payeslave·
I’d guess it comes from communally accepted inherited knowledge among the political descendants of those who had a political interest in undermining the British (and wider NATO) nuclear force during the Cold War. Talking points given to the CND et al in the 70s by the KGB have filtered down.
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Sir Humphrey
Sir Humphrey@pinstripedline·
@geoallison @NavyLookout I'd love to know where this stupidity comes from. There is no PAL in the UK system - I have copies of briefs for Ministers, now in National Archives, explaining this...
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George Allison
George Allison@geoallison·
This is absolutely false. The UK doesn't utilise the Permissive Action Link system, no one 'holds the codes' to Trident in British service.
Rob Filth@RobFilthUK

@Bob165061744372 @llwtydeer The codes to trident are held by the Yanks. We can't fire them without another countries permission. They're also a big wide open target for terrorist attack too. They're not a deterrant, they're a bloody danger. A power keg waiting to go off.

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MarginalTaxEnjoyer
MarginalTaxEnjoyer@payeslave·
@PC_Angry @remmy_308 Sophistry at its finest. If cops only ever engaged in techniques they had been taught in OST then society would fall into anarchy.
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MarginalTaxEnjoyer
MarginalTaxEnjoyer@payeslave·
The fact that met SLT managed to whittle down kitchen facilities from functioning station kitchens to just a counter with a microwave on it is a disgrace. The loss of the kitchens for me was always a very direct sign of how much our illustrious “leadership” don’t give a shit about us.
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MarginalTaxEnjoyer
MarginalTaxEnjoyer@payeslave·
@Laocailarry Reflexive anti-britishism. If Scottish independence ever did happen, people like George would blame the UK for the ensuing economic catastrophe.
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