Sienne
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Konstantin, you asked a Black woman where she'd rather live than Britain or America or Canada. Let's take Britain as your example of tolerant, slavery-ending Western excellence. Britain did not end slavery voluntarily. Britain ended the Atlantic slave trade in 1807 after decades of organized abolitionist pressure, slave rebellions across the Caribbean, most consequentially Haiti in 1791, and the growing calculation that wage labor was becoming more economically efficient than chattel slavery in certain contexts. When Britain "abolished" slavery in its colonies in 1833, it paid £20 million in compensation. Not to the enslaved. To the enslavers. The people who had been worked and beaten and raped and bred like livestock for generations received nothing. Their enslavers received the equivalent of £17 billion in today's money, funded by British taxpayers. A debt so large that British citizens were still paying it off in 2015. You read that correctly. British taxpayers were paying off the debt incurred compensating slave owners until 2015. So when you ask a Black woman where she would rather live, the answer she gives, if she says Britain, is not an endorsement of British moral superiority. It is a statement about which available option causes her the least harm. Those are not the same thing. And you know the difference. You just find it more comfortable not to say it.

Exactly. The West, particularly Britain, ended the majority of global slavery that had existed for thousands of years in all cultures and did so at great expense in blood & treasure. That a minority in America and Britain wanted to continue slavery is overshadowed by the fact that a supermajority within the West fought and many died to end slavery.




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