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💯... You saw it. That gap between what is right… and what actually works… that’s the whole point. Morality tells us what should be… but reality keeps showing us what is. Most people argue good vs bad… Few people ask: “What does the system actually reward?” That’s where everything changes.

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Charmin@Livingud4sure·9h

This really makes people question everything we assume about ‘good’ and ‘bad.’ Maybe the problem isn’t that the world is unfair, but that we’re all playing different games with different rules. Some people succeed not because they’re better, smarter, or morally superior, but because they understand the rules of their game and play them ruthlessly. Others, even with the best intentions, follow a set of rules that the world doesn’t reward. It also shows how limited our judgment can be. What we call evil, corruption, or failure might just be someone else’s normal, or even their way of thriving. The more I think about it, the more I see that morality, success, and even power are relative shaped by context, perception, and alignment with the system you’re operating in. Maybe the real question isn’t who is right or wrong, but whether we understand the rules of the game we’ve chosen and whether we’re okay with the consequences of playing it our way.

I saw a post about Bola Ahmed Tinubu recently. Some people were cursing him. Others were praising him. But one comment hit me… The person said: “With the money this man has made, even in his next life, he can never be poor.” And it got me thinking… What if our definition of good wasnt this man’s path to success? What if this is actually how the world works? What if the reason I admire Peter Obi is that he operates within my definition of good? And what if the reason people like Mc Oluomo and Tinubu have come this far is that they operate within a completely different definition of good, bad, and evil? So who is right? Or better question… Who defines what is right? Religion tried to give us structure. It gave us language for good, evil, morality, and empathy. I once heard someone define sin to me like this: “Anything you do or say, and instantly feel bad about… that is your spirit telling you I am not with you on this.” Compared to the Bible which defines it as: Sin is anything that goes against God’s will… even your thoughts and intentions. Now think about this… Some people kill every day. Some people do things we call “demonic.” And we judge them instantly. But what if… They don’t even see it as wrong? What if, in their world, it is normal? Who is the moral authority? I have spent the last hours thinking & writing about this. Countries go to war… kill thousands… then thank God for victory. But the same Bible says “Thou shalt not kill.” So whose God are they praying to? Even education… There are billionaires today who never went to school or dropped out of school, yet they are on top of the food chain because they just learned and understood the simple basics. On the other hand, some people followed school, did everything right… and still struggle. So is success really tied to education? Or just to the rules of the game you choose to play? Life starts to look different when you see this… We are not all playing the same game. We are playing different games… with different rules… under different definitions of “good.” Maybe that is why… someone you see as a devil… is someone else’s answered prayer. Buhari was a disaster to me, but some people miss him… because their world made sense under him. So maybe the real question is not… “Who is good or bad?” Maybe the real question is… “What game are you playing… and who defined your rules?” People always ask: “Why do good people die early?” What if they just chose a game where goodness is not the winning strategy? What if they were playing a different game entirely and the world doesn’t reward goodness but rewards alignment with its rules? Is that why we see politicians today working with people they once criticized? Because they got to understand the dynamics of the game better, while we on the other side choose to understand with emotions? The world is not fully understood… so we use emotions to fill the gaps where understanding is missing. And that is a problem too.

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Sunny Elem@ElemSunny·9h

This is a thoughtful thread. But it mixes two different things that must be separated if we want clarity: moral truth and human systems of success. Let me simplify it. There are many games in this world. But there is only one standard of truth. First, on “different definitions of good.” That sounds right on the surface, but it breaks under logic. If good is whatever each person defines, then: - Theft is good to the thief - Corruption is good to the corrupt - Violence is good to the violent At that point, the word “good” loses meaning. Even societies that disagree on many things still agree on basics: - stealing is wrong - betrayal is wrong - unjust killing is wrong Why? Because conscience is not random. It is wired. As The Bible puts it in Romans 2:15, the law is “written in their hearts.” Even people who don’t read scripture still feel right and wrong. So no, people don’t have completely different definitions of good. They have different levels of alignment with what they already know is right. Now to the harder part: Why do people who seem “wrong” still succeed? Because success in human systems is not the same as righteousness. Look at Ecclesiastes 9:11: “The race is not to the swift… nor riches to men of understanding… but time and chance happen to them all.” In plain terms: Life on earth runs on systems. Strategy. Power. Timing. Networks. So someone can win the game of power and still lose the game of life. That’s why history is full of men who rose fast and fell hard. About the political figures you mentioned. What you’re seeing is not “different truths.”You’re seeing different interests. One leader benefits a group, and that group calls him “good.”Another group suffers under him, and calls him “bad.” That’s not morality. That’s perspective shaped by outcome. Now the quote: “With the money this man has made, even in his next life, he can never be poor.” That’s emotionally powerful, but logically weak. No one transfers wealth across lives. Even within one lifetime, wealth is fragile. Markets crash. Empires collapse. Health fails. Happiness eludes. Jesus said it plainly in Matthew 16:26: “What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul?” That question has never been answered with money. On war and “Thou shalt not kill.” The command in Exodus is better understood as “do not murder.” It condemns killing, every form of force. Because life is precious. Still, your observation stands: people often use God to justify their side. That’s not God changing. That’s humans bending God to fit their agenda. On education vs success. You’re right again in observation, but not in conclusion. School teaches structure. The world rewards application, risk, and leverage. Some people learn those outside school. Some learn them inside. Some don’t So it’s not “education doesn’t matter.” It’s “education alone is not enough.” Now the deepest part of your post: “Are we playing different games?” Yes. But not in the way you framed it. There are two layers: 1. The visible game Money, power, influence, status 2. The invisible game Character, conscience, accountability, eternity. Many people optimize for the first. Few think seriously about the second. That’s why you can see someone celebrated publicly but empty privately. “Why do good people die early?” This question assumes length of life equals value of life. It doesn’t. Some lives are short but complete. Some are long but wasted. The real metric is not duration. It is direction. Final thought. The world is not confused about good and evil. People are. And when understanding is weak, emotion fills the gap. You said that part well. But the solution is not to abandon truth and say “everyone has their own.” The solution is to sharpen understanding so emotion no longer leads. Because at the end of it all: You can win every game people clap for …and still lose the only one that truly counts. Thank you for your thoughtful post.

I saw a post about Bola Ahmed Tinubu recently. Some people were cursing him. Others were praising him. But one comment hit me… The person said: “With the money this man has made, even in his next life, he can never be poor.” And it got me thinking… What if our definition of good wasnt this man’s path to success? What if this is actually how the world works? What if the reason I admire Peter Obi is that he operates within my definition of good? And what if the reason people like Mc Oluomo and Tinubu have come this far is that they operate within a completely different definition of good, bad, and evil? So who is right? Or better question… Who defines what is right? Religion tried to give us structure. It gave us language for good, evil, morality, and empathy. I once heard someone define sin to me like this: “Anything you do or say, and instantly feel bad about… that is your spirit telling you I am not with you on this.” Compared to the Bible which defines it as: Sin is anything that goes against God’s will… even your thoughts and intentions. Now think about this… Some people kill every day. Some people do things we call “demonic.” And we judge them instantly. But what if… They don’t even see it as wrong? What if, in their world, it is normal? Who is the moral authority? I have spent the last hours thinking & writing about this. Countries go to war… kill thousands… then thank God for victory. But the same Bible says “Thou shalt not kill.” So whose God are they praying to? Even education… There are billionaires today who never went to school or dropped out of school, yet they are on top of the food chain because they just learned and understood the simple basics. On the other hand, some people followed school, did everything right… and still struggle. So is success really tied to education? Or just to the rules of the game you choose to play? Life starts to look different when you see this… We are not all playing the same game. We are playing different games… with different rules… under different definitions of “good.” Maybe that is why… someone you see as a devil… is someone else’s answered prayer. Buhari was a disaster to me, but some people miss him… because their world made sense under him. So maybe the real question is not… “Who is good or bad?” Maybe the real question is… “What game are you playing… and who defined your rules?” People always ask: “Why do good people die early?” What if they just chose a game where goodness is not the winning strategy? What if they were playing a different game entirely and the world doesn’t reward goodness but rewards alignment with its rules? Is that why we see politicians today working with people they once criticized? Because they got to understand the dynamics of the game better, while we on the other side choose to understand with emotions? The world is not fully understood… so we use emotions to fill the gaps where understanding is missing. And that is a problem too.

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Exactly. That’s actually the point I am making. If the constitution and moral principles were truly the rules that determined outcomes... Then people who violate them wouldn’t keep succeeding. But they do. Right? So now the real question becomes… Are those the rules of the game… or just the rules we wish the game followed?

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DNS@DanNyetiabasi·9h

@spiRiituaL Chief, Let’s put religion aside for a moment. What about the constitution.The sacred law that every citizen is meant to live by? For them to play their “game” successfully, they have to violate both religious principles and the laws written in the constitution. 💔💔💔

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🦉 🧘🏽‍♂️spiRituaL🧘🏽‍♂️@spiRiituaL·10h

I saw a post about Bola Ahmed Tinubu recently. Some people were cursing him. Others were praising him. But one comment hit me… The person said: “With the money this man has made, even in his next life, he can never be poor.” And it got me thinking… What if our definition of good wasnt this man’s path to success? What if this is actually how the world works? What if the reason I admire Peter Obi is that he operates within my definition of good? And what if the reason people like Mc Oluomo and Tinubu have come this far is that they operate within a completely different definition of good, bad, and evil? So who is right? Or better question… Who defines what is right? Religion tried to give us structure. It gave us language for good, evil, morality, and empathy. I once heard someone define sin to me like this: “Anything you do or say, and instantly feel bad about… that is your spirit telling you I am not with you on this.” Compared to the Bible which defines it as: Sin is anything that goes against God’s will… even your thoughts and intentions. Now think about this… Some people kill every day. Some people do things we call “demonic.” And we judge them instantly. But what if… They don’t even see it as wrong? What if, in their world, it is normal? Who is the moral authority? I have spent the last hours thinking & writing about this. Countries go to war… kill thousands… then thank God for victory. But the same Bible says “Thou shalt not kill.” So whose God are they praying to? Even education… There are billionaires today who never went to school or dropped out of school, yet they are on top of the food chain because they just learned and understood the simple basics. On the other hand, some people followed school, did everything right… and still struggle. So is success really tied to education? Or just to the rules of the game you choose to play? Life starts to look different when you see this… We are not all playing the same game. We are playing different games… with different rules… under different definitions of “good.” Maybe that is why… someone you see as a devil… is someone else’s answered prayer. Buhari was a disaster to me, but some people miss him… because their world made sense under him. So maybe the real question is not… “Who is good or bad?” Maybe the real question is… “What game are you playing… and who defined your rules?” People always ask: “Why do good people die early?” What if they just chose a game where goodness is not the winning strategy? What if they were playing a different game entirely and the world doesn’t reward goodness but rewards alignment with its rules? Is that why we see politicians today working with people they once criticized? Because they got to understand the dynamics of the game better, while we on the other side choose to understand with emotions? The world is not fully understood… so we use emotions to fill the gaps where understanding is missing. And that is a problem too.

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First Officer Felix™ 王明@phlexyl·10h

Travel outside so you can see the type of life unna dey live for Nigeria.

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DEXI@dexipoppa·9h

@spiRiituaL @Iam_Mella Continue dey give excuse to bad people and paint am with plenty philosophy, you hear??

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@ninetynine9_9 So if 80–90% support something… it becomes good? Nah... History doesn’t agree with that. Majorities have supported slavery… war… injustice. Numbers don’t define morality… they only show alignment of interest. Good and bad don’t change because of numbers.

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99@ninetynine9_9·9h

@spiRiituaL When you did something that 80 to 90% of people are happy with, that makes you a good person, but when 20 or 10% are the only one aligning with you, that's terrible, those 20 and 10% purely know that what you doing is evil but because of their benefits from it, they feel happy.

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@0xSuperboy Lol... Easy... No be so. Understanding how things work is not the same as justifying them. You can recognise a pattern… and still not support it. So my man, i am not neutralising… just observing... Which means I am separating understanding from approval. Clear now?

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Superboy🪽@0xSuperboy·9h

@spiRiituaL Senior, you don confuse me Walai. It almost seemed like you were trying to neutralize everything

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Bad man Boye🧘‍♂️🧘‍♂️🧘‍♂️🧘‍♂️@badman_boye1·9h

@spiRiituaL @ShillPort Understanding how power works doesn’t mean you support evil, it means you’re not naive enough to be controlled by it.

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My man, Bad is bad. Good is good. But that’s not what I’m questioning. I am questioning why, in the real world, people who do “bad” still rise, succeed, and dominate systems. Because if morality alone determined outcomes… we wouldn’t see this pattern. Do you get it? So the real question is not what is good or bad… It’s why the world doesn’t consistently reward it.

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Chikrypt 🐐@MooveRobin·9h

@spiRiituaL Rationalize their actions due to bias and interests, but it still will not change the act of what they did from bad to good. I'm sure Hitler within himself,would've had a good case for whatever he did then,but it still doesn't make it how the world works. Bad is bad, good is good

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Chikrypt 🐐@MooveRobin·9h

Senior man, wetin Una dey even talk sometimes sef? Boredom go make Una try to twist wetin no need twisting make e fit be like deep thinking.

I saw a post about Bola Ahmed Tinubu recently. Some people were cursing him. Others were praising him. But one comment hit me… The person said: “With the money this man has made, even in his next life, he can never be poor.” And it got me thinking… What if our definition of good wasnt this man’s path to success? What if this is actually how the world works? What if the reason I admire Peter Obi is that he operates within my definition of good? And what if the reason people like Mc Oluomo and Tinubu have come this far is that they operate within a completely different definition of good, bad, and evil? So who is right? Or better question… Who defines what is right? Religion tried to give us structure. It gave us language for good, evil, morality, and empathy. I once heard someone define sin to me like this: “Anything you do or say, and instantly feel bad about… that is your spirit telling you I am not with you on this.” Compared to the Bible which defines it as: Sin is anything that goes against God’s will… even your thoughts and intentions. Now think about this… Some people kill every day. Some people do things we call “demonic.” And we judge them instantly. But what if… They don’t even see it as wrong? What if, in their world, it is normal? Who is the moral authority? I have spent the last hours thinking & writing about this. Countries go to war… kill thousands… then thank God for victory. But the same Bible says “Thou shalt not kill.” So whose God are they praying to? Even education… There are billionaires today who never went to school or dropped out of school, yet they are on top of the food chain because they just learned and understood the simple basics. On the other hand, some people followed school, did everything right… and still struggle. So is success really tied to education? Or just to the rules of the game you choose to play? Life starts to look different when you see this… We are not all playing the same game. We are playing different games… with different rules… under different definitions of “good.” Maybe that is why… someone you see as a devil… is someone else’s answered prayer. Buhari was a disaster to me, but some people miss him… because their world made sense under him. So maybe the real question is not… “Who is good or bad?” Maybe the real question is… “What game are you playing… and who defined your rules?” People always ask: “Why do good people die early?” What if they just chose a game where goodness is not the winning strategy? What if they were playing a different game entirely and the world doesn’t reward goodness but rewards alignment with its rules? Is that why we see politicians today working with people they once criticized? Because they got to understand the dynamics of the game better, while we on the other side choose to understand with emotions? The world is not fully understood… so we use emotions to fill the gaps where understanding is missing. And that is a problem too.

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@Daniverse001 @MooveRobin I cant give up on him like that. There might be something he is seeing that I am not, and his means of passing his message might be different from mine. I can’t just jump into canceling him, let me first be sure of his understanding.

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Daniverse@Daniverse001·9h

@spiRiituaL @MooveRobin There’s no point explaining things with depth to people like this. It‘s obvious that he has no clue what the conversation is even about. Your effort will be futile 🏃‍♂️

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Olufunso Aluko PhD@olufunsoaluko·9h

@spiRiituaL @MooveRobin You be club owner now o lol

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The Evolving Learner@Abib_07·9h

@spiRiituaL @Akibonopeyemi11 I'm currently in this phase. I've subconsciously inherited other people's enmity. I now have to unblock and unmute some people.

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@Akibonopeyemi11 @Abib_07 True. While I was reflecting on the whole thing, I figured out I owe some people an apology.

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Akibon Opeyemi Musa@Akibonopeyemi11·9h

@spiRiituaL @Abib_07 Right and wrong at the end of the day lies in whom determines it . Reason I preach being at peace with oneself so one can define and determine their journey and life.

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The Evolving Learner@Abib_07·10h

In a world filled with distractions, the key to the lock of distractions is Balance. Some call balance Basics. I may not agree with you, but at least we pull our thought from the same pool. Who should define basics? Who is old enough to define basics? Knowledge is definitely...

I saw a post about Bola Ahmed Tinubu recently. Some people were cursing him. Others were praising him. But one comment hit me… The person said: “With the money this man has made, even in his next life, he can never be poor.” And it got me thinking… What if our definition of good wasnt this man’s path to success? What if this is actually how the world works? What if the reason I admire Peter Obi is that he operates within my definition of good? And what if the reason people like Mc Oluomo and Tinubu have come this far is that they operate within a completely different definition of good, bad, and evil? So who is right? Or better question… Who defines what is right? Religion tried to give us structure. It gave us language for good, evil, morality, and empathy. I once heard someone define sin to me like this: “Anything you do or say, and instantly feel bad about… that is your spirit telling you I am not with you on this.” Compared to the Bible which defines it as: Sin is anything that goes against God’s will… even your thoughts and intentions. Now think about this… Some people kill every day. Some people do things we call “demonic.” And we judge them instantly. But what if… They don’t even see it as wrong? What if, in their world, it is normal? Who is the moral authority? I have spent the last hours thinking & writing about this. Countries go to war… kill thousands… then thank God for victory. But the same Bible says “Thou shalt not kill.” So whose God are they praying to? Even education… There are billionaires today who never went to school or dropped out of school, yet they are on top of the food chain because they just learned and understood the simple basics. On the other hand, some people followed school, did everything right… and still struggle. So is success really tied to education? Or just to the rules of the game you choose to play? Life starts to look different when you see this… We are not all playing the same game. We are playing different games… with different rules… under different definitions of “good.” Maybe that is why… someone you see as a devil… is someone else’s answered prayer. Buhari was a disaster to me, but some people miss him… because their world made sense under him. So maybe the real question is not… “Who is good or bad?” Maybe the real question is… “What game are you playing… and who defined your rules?” People always ask: “Why do good people die early?” What if they just chose a game where goodness is not the winning strategy? What if they were playing a different game entirely and the world doesn’t reward goodness but rewards alignment with its rules? Is that why we see politicians today working with people they once criticized? Because they got to understand the dynamics of the game better, while we on the other side choose to understand with emotions? The world is not fully understood… so we use emotions to fill the gaps where understanding is missing. And that is a problem too.

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I understand where you are coming from... Let's follow it up this way. You say “evil is evil” like it settles the discussion. It doesn’t. Because the real question is not whether evil exists… It’s why people who operate in it still rise, win, and dominate systems. Ignoring that reality doesn’t make it disappear… it just means you’re choosing comfort over understanding.

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Naga@ShillPort·10h

@spiRiituaL I'll stop you somewhere around the first few lines... In the grand scheme of things, there's no definition of good Tinubu operates. In this universe and all the ones parallel to it evil is evil

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