@GDGoldSon @OlocoDisabled Another Riot employee spotted i see? How's your defense of your trojan going, glowie?
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Fast Donk Syndrome
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Fast Donk Syndrome
@DonkFast
I'm FDS, the Hardbass producer. Some might think I'm a controversial figure in Hardbass, so i'll offer to enlighten you! Welcome to the good side of hardbass!
Manchester Tham gia Temmuz 2022
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@OlocoDisabled tem nenhum PC indo de vala colega, o updade é ultra mega especifico que so trigga quando ele detecta uma DMA.
ou seja a n ser que voce esteja usando um dispositivo coma acesso direto a memoria tu nem sonha em ver oq rolou com os cheaters.
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Bizarro ter gente defendendo isso.
Sim, cheater tem que se foder, mas basta um update cagado e vai milhões de PC embora.
StolenBR@StolenBR
Hoje saiu a noticia que a Riot conseguiu desenvolver uma deteccao dos cheats DMA (hardware ext.) que trava o pc e só reinstalando o sistema resolve Cheater tem que ser dessa forma ou virar crime, pq senão nao adianta. (Tem gente defendendo os cheaters e criticando a Riot) 😅🤣
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more photos of the shooter
this is who is calling you brown on twitter btw
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@crowintheknow @DonkFast @angelroom0 I’m thinking that too. This dude basically said a bunch of words without getting into them thinking it carries his whole talking point
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@thestope No, bricking the device is when Vanguard Trojan digs into the firmware of PCIE and SATA devices and corrupts them, requiring a manual reflash, or at the least, a reinstall of your OS and some data recovery.
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Well, that escalated quickly.
There’s been a wave of claims by cheaters about Vanguard “bricking” their PCs, so let’s clear that up: Vanguard does not damage hardware or disable your devices.
The photo we posted is a picture of cheat hardware devices that are sold explicitly for cheating in VALORANT (not normal PCs or PC components). Through our latest updates, Vanguard now makes those devices worthless for VAL, but does not in any way brick PCs or PC components or PC software.
Our latest update enforces standard platform security features, like the Input-Output Memory Management Unit (IOMMU), on accounts identified as using Direct Memory Access (DMA) cheating devices. These protections are already part of modern systems and when enabled, they block DMA cheat devices (such as those shown in the photo) from accessing memory in downstream applications, like our games.
If a cheat setup continues attempting to cheat after those protections are enabled, the system may generate hardware faults or instability. This is expected behavior under IOMMU when attempts are made to read protected memory.
Disabling IOMMU allows the cheat device to function again, but IOMMU will still be required to play our games. This means the cheat device won’t work with our games, but your PC isn’t “bricked.” We would not, and cannot, impact your PC’s functionality in any other fashion.
This functionality only applies to systems attempting to use DMA cheat devices, and players who are not using DMA-based cheat setups are not affected.
We’ll keep investing in anti-cheat to protect competitive integrity, and we’ll keep being as transparent as possible about how those systems work.
Riot Games@riotgames
congrats to the owners of a brand new $6k paperweight
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@vapgames Electric gun looks incredible, you're still a god at making systems, i see? xD
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"Bricking someone's hardware" is a wild way to say "Vanguard enabled a standard Windows security feature that blocks unauthorized memory access."
If a player takes the shady DMA cheat card out of their motherboard, the PC boots perfectly fine. Riot didn't fry their circuits; they just put a lock on a door.
And please stop using "false positives" as a shield for people who bought literal hardware exploits. A standard gaming PC doesn't accidentally grow a Direct Memory Access card running custom spoofed firmware. If your PC got flagged by this update, you didn't accidentally download a bad patch; you spent $300 to cheat at a video game and got caught. Nice try though.
bubbles@NoLimits057
No company should be legally allowed to brick someone’s hardware. And for the people saying this could help stop cheaters — false positives exist. That means legitimate players could end up having their hardware disabled or flagged despite doing nothing wrong.
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@creaturemiaow @angelroom0 If you think people should be jailed for playing stupid video games with their stupid aimbot, then i think you need to go outside lol
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@DonkFast @angelroom0 they literally are not malware as every user downloads them for this exact purpose. we dont want cheaters in our games we fully welcome this changes. honestly i hope cheaters get arrested and get jailtime along with never being able to own a pc again. so they are getting off easy
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They do have a panel. They can manually trigger vanguard's built in trojan if you get "Banned", and your system WILL be bricked.
It's not just a manual reinstall, Vanguard digs into the firmware of ALL DMA devices. That's every single PCIE card you have connected, and also your hard drives / SSDs connected via SATA or NVME.
Sure, you can reflash the firmware of your GPU or other pcie device if vanguard trojan messed it up, but you need an external device for this. Also, once your ssd's firmware has been bricked, all your data is gone / unrecoverable. Again, you can reflash the firmware with an external tool, reinstall windows and such, but your data is still wiped. Viruses don't usually damage hardware. Firmware isn't hardware. Riot themselves said this.
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@Dovah_Spy What they did isn't bricking, it just requires a system reinstall. But in theory such a thing might be possible. Though I don't think that they have some kind of panel that allows to manually do such things. Either way, the game sucks and still full of cheaters, what's the point?
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So basically if one guy doesn't like you and works at Riot he can brick your pc.
Dexerto@Dexerto
Riot Games have “bricked” $6,000 DMA cheating devices with their Vanguard anti-cheat The hardware is denied access to game memory, so cheaters can't play Riot titles
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@Dovah_Spy Let's go further and Assume Riot Games are great people. If their Security is compromised and a hacker gain access to their system he also gains access to yours 😂
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You have been sorely misinformed. Vanguard trojan has the ability to wipe hard disk partitions and firmware since they are SATA devices and interact with DMA (many cases of this actually happening). Vanguard, upon triggering, also digs into the firmware of PCIE devices, rendering them useless unless you have the knowhow to manually reflash them. Do you even know what you're talking about when it comes to the debug device? They are used by security professionals worldwide, and they don't cost 6,000$.
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@Dovah_Spy no, the cheaters are spinning this as full bricking of pcs. Riot has made it so that if vanguard recognizes youre using this cheat device im your pc you cannot play any riot games game. the cheaters are LYING to make riot look bad when theyre spending 6k to cheat on ONLY valorant
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@ShacoMidLane @Dovah_Spy False.
They brick your windows install by messing up partitions.
They also dig into the firmware of PCIE devices, making firmware updates impossible, and requiring a manual reflash.
Viruses don't "Damage" your hardware physically, do they?
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@Dovah_Spy They cannot. If they brick your PC this gives rise to claims under consumer protection law.
They merely prevent access to their games, the hardware is not destroyed or damaged in any way.
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@Mister_Patchy @SilvaniKillian Do you know how much money Riot has?
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@DonkFast @SilvaniKillian Even erring on the low end with 1 million daily reports, riot would need 34k employees dedicated to sifting through 30 reports daily. That's 7x the size of riot games globally. And that's not including the valorant playerbase.
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You don’t need Ring 0 access to my computer to stop cheaters btw
They just don’t want to cause they’re stupid and lazy asshats
What happens if your pc is false flagged, as is prone to happen with a bad windows update, for whatever reason?
Riot Games@riotgames
congrats to the owners of a brand new $6k paperweight
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>Please, download our Vanguard Trojan! it's safe! We would never switch it to combat mode if somebody decided to criticize the PRC! It's harmless! Viruses don't "physically" damage your hardware, you know....
Riot Games@riotgames
Does Vanguard physically damage hardware? No. Does this impact hardware or software in any ways unrelated to Riot’s games? No. The IOMMU security protection does not impact hardware, and would only impact the ability of players using DMA cheat devices to play our games. Are normal players affected? Players not using DMA cheat hardware are unaffected. Why target DMA cheats? DMA-based cheats are among the most sophisticated forms of cheating because they attempt to bypass traditional software detection by accessing memory directly through external hardware. I’m affected by this. How do I fix it? To continue cheating in other titles with this device, you may simply disable IOMMU in BIOS in the same place that you enabled it. Of course, you still won’t be able to play our games with these cheat devices enabled. Why did Riot joke about “bricking” PCs? We didn’t. The “paperweight” comment was about VALORANT cheat devices that no longer work in VALORANT. No hardware is being damaged and no other functionalities are impacted.
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@DTNonsense @riotgames Why don't you go and install vanguard on your main system then? Let me know how it goes and when you get banned for having python or LM studio open. And if you don't then just wait until, Riot switches Vanguard to combat mode.
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@DonkFast @riotgames It's deterministic in its detection.
This is how we know you're a dumbass.
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@FarmerFigs @riotgames I repair GPUs and have used debugging cards before. you obviously aren't an expert.
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@DonkFast @riotgames Me, when I spend 10 minutes googling something and want to act like I'm an expert in the subject.
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