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The number of Christians defending eternal conscious torment (ECT), in the wake of @KirkCameron's comments, is both sad but curious. It’s sad because of: (a) the psychological damage that ECT has done to people throughout history, (b) the strong historical, philosophical, and moral arguments for annihilationism and / or universal reconciliation (UR); and, (c) my personal experience of being instinctively drawn towards a God who operates with UR, while wanting nothing to do with one who operates with ECT. But it’s curious because of the why. Why do so many Christians defend ECT? Well, there’s several reasons, and theologian David Bentley Hart spends time examining them in That All Shall Be Saved (a highly recommended read). One reason I’m entertaining is a sort of hatred against the self and others that develops, when one fails to overcome the fear that ECT brings, and instead submits to it. Perhaps when one does this, and then is later confronted with the idea that ECT isn’t true, maybe this assaults the ego, as it reveals a character defect. Or maybe it reveals to the person that the reasons for which they accepted Christianity were faulty. Or it’s some type of Stockholm syndrome. I’m not sure. Now to anyone reading this, who has struggled with ECT fears, the good news is the arguments for Universal Reconciliation are much, much stronger, than you might suspect, especially if you were raised in a fundamentalist environment and never seriously explored the alternatives. Again, David Bentley Hart’s That All Shall Be Saved is highly recommended, if you want to start this exploration. And ironically, I don’t even consider myself a Christian. But I might very well be in love with the God who, in the end, redeems all who ever lived back to Him. @TGrogan268173 @god_wrestle #annihilationism #ECT #hell #universalreconciliation #Christianity

@tomyoungjr What are the odds that in two years, Warren thinks: "Well they did pass BIP 110, let's give Bitcoin a pass." Warren is coming after Bitcoin regardless. We both know it. Don't surrender territory to your enemy, especially when that territory is freedom of speech and expression.

@Relentless_btc @dotkrueger Hard to get over the Elizabeth Warren comments. What are the odds that in two years Warren thinks: "Well, they did pass BIP 110, let's give Bitcoin a pass".

“I don’t think the Bitcoin network should be used for free speech.” - @dotkrueger This was the kill shot of the entire debate. The BIP-110 stance is anti-free speech & pro-censorship. They fear the government & would rather sacrifice decentralization for number go up & government acceptance. @LeonidasNFT is correct, this was the most tiny dick, least cypherpunk conversation on Bitcoin I’ve ever heard. @tomyoungjr goes on to say he is scared Elizebeth Warren will use Ordinals as an excuse to attack Bitcoin & he doesn’t believe in the cypher punk, self sovereignty ethos. These people are not real Bitcoiners & would rather launch Solana pump & dumps & push paper Bitcoin products. What an incredible display of cowardice & lack of technical understanding of Bitcoin. Shout out to @bitstratford for asking te right question that exposed Fred for the fraud he is.

@Relentless_btc @dotkrueger “I don’t think the Bitcoin network should be used for free speech.” Absolutely the kill shot.

@dotkrueger @tomyoungjr @Puncher522

@adam3us Literally heard a pro BIP 110 supporter yesterday say: "I don't want the Bitcoin network used for free speech." This argument is over.

i'm a cypherpunk, and have been running nodes since 1990s. exit remailers, tor, file sharing, bitcoin nodes. p2p networks don't exist unless people with mettle run nodes. filter bippers are weak leeches, scared to p2p, demanding to censor to make nodes "safe" for the weak to run.

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@dotkrueger @tomyoungjr if you want to censor Bitcoin out of fear of Elizabeth Warren, then you’ve lost the plot.

@dotkrueger These Jpeggers are bad.

@dotkrueger Let’s hear more about punishing Ordinals users. Now we’re getting somewhere.

@dotkrueger But what about China???!?? Guys are we really thinking about what China wants????

@dotkrueger “I don’t think the Bitcoin network should be used for free speech.” This argument is over.

@dotkrueger Bitcoin is either completely free or it’s not. Fuck this censorship bullshit.

@Kalshi Peak bubble indicator

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@dotkrueger Who says the vast majority oppose?

The vast majority of Bitcoiners oppose expanding OP_RETURN space. It's insane that Core should be pushing such an unpopular direction.

@dotkrueger Hmmm no. The restrict speech guys are usually wrong, and I suspect they’re wrong here as a well.

State of affairs: - most people think BIP-110 will fail - BUT, most people support BIP-110 The tyranny of Core is both loathed and feared.

@Coopblake89 @dotkrueger Deal. Yes, 00:00 CMT 1/1/27 is fine. Gentlemen's agreement is fine. @grok me of this on at 00:00 CMT January, 1, 2027.

@CryptoC58828499 @dotkrueger Deal🤝 You cool with 00:00 CMT 1/1/27 ? Also, gentleman’s agreement or hold in account? With that wager amount, I’m completely comfortable with verbal agreement, your call though 🍻

2.55 Billion in cash. Just like Grain and I predicted. The future for MSTR is exactly the opposite of what Peter Schiff thinks it is.

@Coopblake89 @dotkrueger $500 that Bitcoin is $50k or higher when the clock strikes 2027. If under $50k, I pay you $500. If over $50k, you pay me $500.

@CryptoC58828499 @dotkrueger What do you propose as a wager?

@Coopblake89 @dotkrueger ?

@CryptoC58828499 @dotkrueger Always in the cards… what’s your proposal?

Bitcoin +3%. MU / SNDK -8%. The world is healing.

Listened to Shinobi tonight. He appears to know what he's talking about, and he has massive conviction in his views. I don't know the technical details, but when someone says they want to censor transactions / speech on the blockchain, that gets me about 70% of the way towards thinking they're wrong.

Bitcoin is under a very serious Landauer Attack from Fabian’s inside Bitcoin. Run BIP-110. That is all.