Eric Weinstein recall meeting Jeffrey Epstein once.. and knew within minutes something was deeply wrong.
Chris: "You've met Jeffrey Epstein once. What was it like coming face to face with somebody like that?"
Eric: "The hair on the back of my neck stood up. That's a real physiological feeling. It felt like I was meeting someone... unholy."
Chris: "What do you mean?"
Eric: "He felt rich in a movie sense. Not the way actually wealthy people feel."
Chris: "So you had an embodied sense of discomfort?"
Eric: "Oh, hell yeah."
Chris: "Where did that come from?"
Eric: "Nothing added up. There was a hidden camera pointed at me, bizarre theatrics everywhere... there was no trace of a normal world."
Chris: "That sounds like a script from a movie."
Eric: "Exactly. It felt like one."
Chris: "Sounds menacing."
Eric: "I think his real product wasn't sex or finance."
Chris: "What was it?"
Eric: "Silence."
Chris: "What does that mean?"
Eric: "Rich people can get sex. They can't necessarily get people to stay quiet afterward."
Eric: "My immediate reaction was: this isn't a normal human being."
Chris: "What do you mean?"
Eric: "It felt like I was looking at a character someone had built."
Chris: "You're saying he felt... constructed?"
Eric: "Yes."
Chris: "Constructed by who?"
Eric: "I don't know."
Chris: "It takes a lot of intelligence to build that kind of theater."
Eric: "You think he built it?"
Chris: "So you don't think he was pulling his own strings?"
Eric: "When I say he was a construct, I literally mean that I don't think the public story about him ever made sense."
Chris: "How does it feel to sit across from someone with that kind of power?"
Eric: "It was intended to be terrifying... and fascinating at the same time."
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