Andy Pupa

@KnoxAnthon52670 @ProfTimNoakes @MountainRoche That isn’t the topic; high carb intake with elite athletes at Boston is the topic, but I’ll bite what is your pseudo science take based on the topic you’ve inserted.

@AndrewPupa @ProfTimNoakes @MountainRoche The topic, in this case, is sponsorship money. Many, if not most, elite endurance athletes are sponsored by companies that make carbohydrate supplements, like gels, are they not?

This observation made me ask another: Is the belief that one must ingest 90-120g carbohydrate/hour during racing and training a uniquely Western/North American/European idea? If it is so important, what do the elite Kenyan runners do when they run their long training runs in places like Iten and Eldoret. In his book goodreads.com/book/show/1314… Adharanand Finn describes a final 38km training run in Iten for athletes preparing for the international marathon racing season. He noted that the athletes started after an overnight fast without breakfast and were provided with drinks every 5km or so. Only after the run did they drink sugar-loaded tea. I asked Grok what were they likely drinking during the 38km training run. Here is her answer: "Primarily water (often ad libitum or sparingly during runs), with milky sugary tea (chai) as a key recovery/hydration drink afterward; Gatorade or similar commercial sugary sports drinks are rare or nonexistent in traditional training. "Elite Kenyan runners in high-altitude training hubs like Iten and Eldoret (the Rift Valley) follow simple, traditional hydration practices focused on water and tea rather than engineered sports drinks. Scientific studies and observations from training camps confirm this: "During long training runs: They typically drink little or nothing while running, or just small sips of plain water if needed. Previous research notes that elite Kenyan endurance runners 'did not consume liquids before or during training' in many cases, or did so infrequently and modestly. Long runs (often 20-40 km or more) are frequently done fasted or with minimal intake, relying on their high-carb diet for fuel. They train in groups on dirt roads with no aid stations, so carrying bottles isn't the norm—some may have small water bottles available at camps, but it's not Gatorade-style drinks". My note: Typically the athletes are accompanied on these runs by coaches who follow in a car and provide drinks every 5km or so. Also sports drinks are expensive and perhaps hard to come by in rural Kenya although Coca-Cola is likely more widely available. So if these athletes wanted a sugar-laden drink during training, Coca-Cola would suffice. Thus it looks like the "Kenyan secret" is definitely not because they ingest 90-120g carbohydrate per hour during their long distance training runs. And if they are not doing it in training, it's highly improbable that they are doing it in racing - according to the advice that one does not do something in racing that has not been tested in training. (Also because of the need for what Westerners call "gut training" (ie minimise the adverse gastrointestinal consequences of repeated ingestion of high carbohydrate drinks whilst racing). This raised many other additional interesting questions. For example, when eating a high carbohydrate diet (unquestionably true), why do elite Kenyan marathon runners do their long training runs in a fasted state with minimal carbohydrate ingestion? What are the rates of fat oxidation that they reach in marathon races run this way? Etc Etc. So it seems that the advice to "do as the Kenyans do" is not adhered to when it comes to (minimal) carbohydrate ingestion during exercise and training and starting long runs in a fasted state. @PhilipPrins11 @AKoutnik @PaulBLaursen @DrPhilMaffetone @sweatscience @theplews1 @Brady_H @MountainRoche @LoreofRunning1

@ProfTimNoakes @KnoxAnthon52670 @MountainRoche 2012 on sports drink vs high carb fueling. Why even link to that study? It’s irrelevant to the topic.

@KnoxAnthon52670 @MountainRoche Good question. The British Medical Journal raised the question of the effects of research funding of sports scientists by the sports drink industry already in 2012 bmj.com/content/345/bm…

@TuckerGoodrich @SageCanaday Again these findings in no way negate the need to manage fluids. Just that at the top end of the scale those folks need to be adapted to tolerate the condition. Not that there is no tipping point or that hydration isn’t a concern.

In excess of 5%, huh? “The authors found that percentage of body weight loss during the Boston Marathon ranged from 4.8 to 7.4% (average 6.0%), corresponding to an average weight loss per hour, essentially equivalent to the sweat rate, of 1.5 kg/hr (3.3 lb/hr) (figure 3.7). “They reported a postrace rectal temperature of 38.9 °C in the winner of the Boston Marathon, John Kelley, who finished in 2:20:05 with a body weight loss of 6%. That's from the 1960s. So you're only 60-odd years out of date. More: “The authors concluded this: “The present evidence implies that tolerance of a high body temperature is a necessary condition of success in marathon running. . . . Another condition of success seems to be a high tolerance to fluid loss. The winners’ weight loss was 5.33 kg corresponding to a fluid loss of 5.1 kg, or 6.7% of his body weight.” @ProfTimNoakes 's Waterlogged.

Well you heard it here from @mile27ultracoach coach here first😂: We apparently don’t have to worry about dehydration in ultrarunning ever because “no scientific studies have ever shown dehydration negatively impacts performance”….🤣. Seriously?!

@TuckerGoodrich @SageCanaday This simply outlines the weight loss guidelines shifted because it wasn’t a key indicator of dehydration. I.e weight loss isn’t the smoking gun for a need to rehydrate in the way they thought it was. Not that they stopped treating for it or that it is no longer a concern.

Here's the Western States' Medical Director on why they changed their dehydration policy in 2010. You've run that race, haven't you? "iRF: What does the WSER recommend for runners looking to avoid either dehydration or over-hydration and hyponatremia? "Kerry Sullivan: WSER currently recommends: Drink to thirst using the electrolyte drink of your choice. The Race provides Gu2O along the course. "Besides our work related to hyponatremia, we’ve also observed that some of the top runners lose more than 5% of their body weight without evidence of issues. So, for the 2010 event, we completely removed from the weight change guidelines any criteria for holding a runner based upon weight change. These guidelines provided to the medical and aid station staff basically specify that weight loss of up to 3-5% is appropriate, less than this should trigger a recommendation to consider reducing fluid and sodium intake, and more than this should trigger a recommendation to consider increasing fluid intake, and possibly sodium intake, as well." irunfar.com/waterlogged-pa… Making yourself look stupid in public isn't wise, Sage.

@BravoKiloActual @samstein If you believe they would have been given thousands in cash I’m sure you’re still waiting for your DOGE check that’s coming any day now.

@samstein All of these people were given the opportunity to go home with thousands in cash and a free plane ticket. They didn’t even though we warned them many times. I wish you would just be honest: You do not believe anyone should be deported despite breaking our laws. Just say it!

We're gonna look back at this with intense shame

@tubrokmantle @draxnnn @tommyboi45 @aibytekat But even those innovations are having ghosts and stalling. He isn’t saying they aren’t working. Hes saying it’s slowing and that’s accurate regardless of the context for actual use. Day to day use has gotten better, but full scale application is taking tons of iterating.

@draxnnn @tommyboi45 @aibytekat Not in the software development world. AI building code from scratch rarely have hallucinations now. His opinions are only based on his personal experience as an artist and made it general truth. AI features that actually benefit the workplace are improving

As a guy who works in tech, is building with AI, and writes a weekly newsletter on the topic, I can't explain as well as Ben Affleck. How is that possible?

@TruthJones74 @hellsw0rth @LIGMALarry1 @BeingJWood Bud you didn’t type out that automated em dash with your iPhone. You could at least learn to remove them before copying and pasting AI responses. 😉 You’re* welcome.

@hellsw0rth @LIGMALarry1 @BeingJWood Slop like your mom. There is no A I response here it jackass

Donald Trump has blocked the Clintons from testifying publicly. This does not exactly scream innocence, does it?

@M8ksNoSense @ReneeMa75377901 @JayCap27 @daviddunn177 @grok Please show poll number pedo supporter. This reply was in regards to the average American. Show me where those Fox News or CNN sample sizes hit the average person. Keep it up though k*d f*cker

@AndrewPupa @ReneeMa75377901 @JayCap27 @daviddunn177 @grok @grok did polls for the 2024 election show TRUMP or KAMALA winning.

Donald Trump’s supporters are waking up this morning and finding out Democrat Taylor Rehmet won in a Texas district that’s been Republican since 1991.

@M8ksNoSense @ReneeMa75377901 @JayCap27 @daviddunn177 @grok Did I say news outlets bud? I said if you asked the average American were they saying it was a slam dunk. Every election right wing says the Republican is a can’t lose. Then the left says she’s in the lead. We were talking people not talking heads. Thanks for chiming in pedo.

@AndrewPupa @ReneeMa75377901 @JayCap27 @daviddunn177 @grok during the 2024 election cycle did any news outlets say Kamala was going to win the election and Trump couldn’t beat her?

@ReneeMa75377901 @M8ksNoSense @JayCap27 @daviddunn177 Again point to where anyone said she was a slam dunk can’t lose candidate? Saying she was joyful isn’t saying she’ll win. This was not 2016. There was no shock and awe. The Dems fumbled bad once again and anyone worth their salt saw it coming all the way.

@AndrewPupa @M8ksNoSense @JayCap27 @daviddunn177 Meh, I remember them talking about momentum and how joyful she was. lol.

@M8ksNoSense @JayCap27 @daviddunn177 Quite literally no one said Kamala couldn’t be beat. Not a single person. You can be condescending, smarmy, and smug and not just completely fabricate things. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@JayCap27 @daviddunn177 Didn’t y’all all say Kamala couldn’t be beat in 2024? Then y’all lost The presidency The house The senate The popular vote The electoral college Y’all said that right? Then lost everything?

@JamesBr666 @tmorello I’m sure we can trace back your anti Rittenhouse tweets from a few years back right?…right?

@tmorello You know how all of this could have been avoided ? 1. Don’t take a gun to a protest.

Unreal. The secret police are hiding the identity of the murderer. Total consequence free impunity to kill citizens. No rule of law. No investigation. Trump’s authoritarian police state. The U.S. is dead. How then shall we respond?

@JimbosJumJo @PimpMasterYoda1 @GundamIsHere 👍

@AndrewPupa @PimpMasterYoda1 @GundamIsHere You keep saying goodbye to me (always with a kiss emoji) as if you desperately want this to be over, but my comments are so hard hitting that you feel forced to reply. Yikes!

As a reward Disney laid her off two years ago.

@JimbosJumJo @PimpMasterYoda1 @GundamIsHere Vader with his mask off. You already used those ones. I know you’re lonely but I’m sure you can find better things to do with your time. Last response take care closet case 😘 toodles.

@AndrewPupa @PimpMasterYoda1 @GundamIsHere Taken by gay men, we know. Just look at that dainty flamboyant run and that schnoz thats been crooked from too many bears sitting on your face.

@JimbosJumJo @PimpMasterYoda1 @GundamIsHere 😘keep staring at those photos Jimbo like I said I’m taken. Flattered, but taken.

@AndrewPupa @PimpMasterYoda1 @GundamIsHere The funniest thing about you is your Egg head

@JimbosJumJo @PimpMasterYoda1 @GundamIsHere Bye stalker sweet dreams and your relaxer of photos of me Jimbo toodles.

@AndrewPupa @PimpMasterYoda1 @GundamIsHere That schnoz says otherwise 🤔 And as for the “cyberstalking”, you have your name on twitter and a public youtube channel with said name. Try being funny and maybe you’ll get more than 22 subscribers 😂 😂

@JimbosJumJo @PimpMasterYoda1 @GundamIsHere Not Jewish, but again being wrong for you has got to be comfortable by now. Take care bud.

@AndrewPupa @PimpMasterYoda1 @GundamIsHere Yes? I am aware of what Christian values are. I’m starting to think you’re jewish now.

@JimbosJumJo @PimpMasterYoda1 @GundamIsHere You replied to other posts about Christian values being removed from messaging by the lefties. Your X isn’t private bud. 😘 now all done with ya stalker. Not gonna block ya again, but done you win potato head you’re a big strong alpha man.

@AndrewPupa @PimpMasterYoda1 @GundamIsHere And please do show me the tweet where I said I’m Christian. Because surely a talented, hilarious “comedian” like yourself wouldn’t have to resort to making shit up, right?

@JimbosJumJo @PimpMasterYoda1 @GundamIsHere You are collecting photos of a stranger for your special Jimbo alone time. So again I’m good with going back and forth with an aggressive cyber stalker so take care Jimbo 😘you won’t be missed.

@AndrewPupa @PimpMasterYoda1 @GundamIsHere I’m not here to debate whether or not a childrens movie for 3-5 year old boys was heavily infested with far left overly progressive ideologies. We all know it was. Thats one of the reasons it flopped. Now I’m just clowning on you 🤡

@JimbosJumJo @PimpMasterYoda1 @GundamIsHere Again Jimbo you started this with “the leftie agenda” and you’ve collected photos of me in your phone to prove how Christian and not gay you are. Doth protest a bit much no?

@AndrewPupa @PimpMasterYoda1 @GundamIsHere You’ve broken it several times having big hairy gay men sitting on your face, haven’t you?