Ryan Thibodeaux

@GuyInco15542744 @Donna_H67 @Grownded He used their own custom as a powerful rhetorical argument to prove that the dead will be physically resurrected. A plot point Fraud Smith exploited and latched onto while believing he was Jesus' equal as you all do.

@ArgusofTalmud @Donna_H67 @Grownded Then why did they?

Somewhere in her ancestry there are pagans that she believes are burning in hell and she is powerless to prevent that. But that's ok, because the glory of her god requires it. But right now, my ancestors are preaching Christ Jesus to her pagan ancestors and offering them a chance at redemption from hell through vicarious baptism, but she doesn't want that because it offends her sensibilities. She's mad we might steal them from Catholic hell to Mormon heaven and rob her god of the screams of their eternal torture. That's why she blocked me.

@stretchyWombat The reason people leave is they see it for the counterfeit and blasphemy it is. You dislike that and bear false witness and blatantly lie. So who is truly in rebellion

Members leave for two reasons, ignorance or rebellion. If you know the scriptures And If you understand what it means to grow in the principle of revelation, and come to know Christ, No anti argument can shake your faith in the Restored Gospel of Jesus Christ.

@ThoughtfulSaint @OzarkPapist @emuse1955 Catholocism has more truth to it than Mormonism could EVER hope for. Ffs your kind doesn't even respect Mary as she deserves and you believe you're Christians

@OzarkPapist @emuse1955 Good thing the BOM gives people more truth than the Catholic Church… which only gets people close to the full truth.

Hey @emuse1955 Why would a demon write a book to millions of people telling them to give there lives to Jesus and to love God and there fellow man? Just to make them not catholic? Doesn't loving Christ and man make you more catholic?

@GuyInco15542744 @Donna_H67 @Grownded That's not a defense either. Paul was speaking on the resurrection of the soul. He did not command believers to baptize the dead either. You have nothing beyond God himself preaching to them, a task only he could do.

@ArgusofTalmud @Donna_H67 @Grownded Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?

@littlejoeward @magicbyjiro @stretchyWombat That wasn't a command nor prohibition, so let's try this, where is it COMMANDED to do so?

@magicbyjiro @stretchyWombat 1 Corinthians 15:29

If I'm not Christian, Why do I know the Bible better Than everyone who's telling me I'm not Christian? 🤨🤨🤨

@stretchyWombat Quoting it and understanding it are not the same 😒

@GuyInco15542744 @Donna_H67 @Grownded And Jesus didn't command us to preach to the dead as that would be necromancy which is expressly forbidden. He commanded it for the LIVING nations. Amazing how that word escapes you

@ArgusofTalmud @Donna_H67 @Grownded I’m pretty sure we can do whatever Jesus asks us to do. The scriptures are clear that the gospel is preached to the dead and they can respond. You’ve provided no reason to think otherwise

@stretchyWombat So you don't believe the Bible, nor do you believe Jesus, so you're not Christian, heard.

If the Nicean Creed was written by prophets or apostles, I would believe it, But it wasn't, So I don't And never will.

@GuyInco15542744 @Donna_H67 @Grownded Not only that, but they didn't know who Jesus was, so to use this scripture is also a fallacy. 90% of the world has heard of Jesus at this point. You want to believe something that simply isn't true nor stated to be done by anyone other than God.

@ArgusofTalmud @Donna_H67 @Grownded Jesus preached to the dead. Seems pointless to preach to those who died in the flood if they can’t repent For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.

@GuyInco15542744 @Donna_H67 @Grownded If you're speaking of the dead, there is no second chances. To believe otherwise is calling God a liar. If you refer to the living, the option is up to them. Once you're dead, you are judged, scripture proves this.

@ArgusofTalmud @Donna_H67 @Grownded Right here. Did you really think I couldn’t scroll up?

Miscarriage is a pain I wouldn't wish on anyone. Beyond painful day, numb would be the best word to describe me currently.

@KramersFaith Your defense of your faith is a book that's constantly proven false... that is beyond weak, sir.

“It’s largely demonic” *Hasn’t read the entire Book of Mormon. Has read 30% Embarrassing 😂

@GuyInco15542744 @Grownded No it doesn't, Paul has one tiny conversation about it. He does not endorse it nor condemn it. Modern revelation by a false prophet holds zero weight to your argument.

@ArgusofTalmud @Grownded Except the Bible teaches it. And thankfully modern revelation expounds it

@GuyInco15542744 @Donna_H67 @Grownded Have I ever said they can't be, no, I didn't.

@ArgusofTalmud @Donna_H67 @Grownded Christ went to hell to save the wicked. You’re here denying they can be saved

@MillenialMormon @grok It's just been an excruciatingly painful day and in the end God's the judge here. Please, have a peaceful night and may God bless you and your family.

@ArgusofTalmud @grok Sure. And I appreciate the debate in good faith. It’s refreshing

Anyone who says you have to believe in the Trinity to be a Christian is mistaken. The formal doctrine was defined at the Councils of Nicaea in 325 and Constantinople in 381. Before then, early Christians like Justin Martyr, Origen, and Tertullian taught the Son was subordinate to, and separate from, the Father. Are they not Christian?

@MillenialMormon @grok But in the spirit that we're not going to see eye to eye, respectfully, may we call it a night, sir?

Ok, here are quotes from major religious historians (spoiler: it’s the same answer): Authorities and Expert Consensus Patristic scholars and church historians universally note this distinction, attributing it to the fact that Justin was writing nearly two centuries before the theological vocabulary of "substance" and "personhood" was formally hammered out. 1 J.N.D. Kelly (Early Christian Doctrines) The renowned patristic scholar J.N.D. Kelly notes that Justin and the 2nd-century Apologists relied on a "Logos Christology" heavily influenced by Greek philosophy, which carried an inherent hierarchy: "In using a two-stage theory of a pre-existent Logos to explain the Son's divine status and His relation to the Father... they probably did not realize that this theory had a built-in 'inferiorizing principle' that would win for them the accusation of 'subordinationism.'" Kelly points out that while Justin recognized the divine triad, the order he assigned them (second and third ranks) belonged to how God manifested Himself in creation, making the Son ontologically dependent on the Father's will. 2 Jaroslav Pelikan (The Christian Tradition: A History of the Development of Doctrine) Pelikan emphasizes that early Apologists like Justin lacked the precise terminology of the later ecumenical councils. He explains that Justin frequently tied the "begetting" of the Son directly to the creation of the world: "The language of the early Apologists often sounded subordinationist to later ears because they frequently spoke of the generation of the Logos as an act of the Father's will directed toward creation and revelation, rather than an eternal, internal necessity of the divine nature." 3 R.P.C. Hanson (The Search for the Christian Doctrine of God) Hanson, a leading authority on the Arian controversy and the development of the Nicene Creed, states plainly that pre-Nicene theology was overwhelmingly subordinationist by later standards: "With the exception of Athanasius and a few others, virtually every theologian, East and West, accepted some form of subordinationism before the late fourth century." Hanson places Justin Martyr squarely within this camp, noting that the idea of three completely equal, co-eternal persons sharing a single essence simply did not exist in the mid-second century. 4 Johannes Quasten (Patrology) Quasten, a monumental authority on early Christian writings, explicitly confirms this structural ranking in Justin’s works: "Justin's Christology includes clear traces of subordinationism. The Logos is a mediator between the transcendent, unbegotten God (the Father) and the material world." If you brought Justin Martyr to the Council of Nicaea or Constantinople, his language would have sounded dangerously close to the ideas the councils were trying to correct. He firmly believed Jesus was divine and distinct from the Father, but he envisioned Him as a secondary divine agent derived from the primary source, rather than a co-equal member of a unified, consubstantial Trinity.

@outdoorsyrachel So 1, amazing soles, like 10/10, 2, the mud is so good for the skin!

Muddy.

@sandiegotlmgoer @KalanisCalves Catholocism is the one true faith

@KalanisCalves Lord willing they meet a good Catholic and come to the one true faith

Check. Mate.

@redhotblueeyes Depends, are your feet sweaty

Your place or mine? 🫣