@scsthindu @pratiklokh19190 There is no such thing like vedic people. Even samhitas don't really talk about karma or reincarnation doesn't mean they didn't exist in the Vedas. Samiths are just one part of broder vedic canon
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@pratiklokh19190 Samhitas are completely silent about ashtanga yoga.
We see ashtanga yoga references in Indus valley then with 1000 years of gap with Sramanas.
So, Vedic people never knew about yoga.
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Yoga is not property of Vedic Hinduism.
It originated with Shaivism in Indus valley later on Vedic people, Buddhists, Jains adopted it.
Patanjali yoga Sutra applies to those who follow Vedic path. Not to Saiva religion as it predates Vedic religion.
Vedic Wisdom..ॐ@VedicWisdom1
Yoga is not open to everyone. If anyone wants to practice Yoga they have to follow Sanatana Dharma. Ishwar-Pranidhana is mandatory to practice Yoga. Ishwar as defined by Hindu Shastras is the final objective of practicing Yoga.
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@JaiSriMadhav @pissofyourmom That's the kshatriya'ization/sanskritization plot of the brahmins to erase the actual identity of the south indian emperors.
All of them; Chola, Chera, Pandya, Pallava all belong to the ancient MALLA tribe. The Sangam literature is the proof of this.
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@dioeleuthereus @naa_ganesan @marthandavelan Kural 55 mentions about worshipping husband instead of worshiping gods by wife. Any such concept in Jainism?
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The Thirukkural is very likely a Shramana work that was adapted to the Tamil milieu. The adaptation of Shramana traditions to regional norms in other Tamil works is a well-researched topic. Some scholars have noted parallels between Vajjalagga of Jayavallabha and the Thirukkural of Thiruvalluvar.
Sathan Pazhiyili@SattanPazhiyili
Watch this account carefully, it’s called Tamil Labs but this account generally picks information which favours Sanatana Dharma ( Vedic Hinduism) from Tamil literatures, and they never post anything objectively. They cleverly quote கள்ளுண்ணாமை from Thirukkural which is great but how many times they have quoted Thirukkural objectively ? நன்றாகும் ஆக்கம் பெரிதெனினும் சான்றோர்க்குக் கொன்றாகும் ஆக்கங் கடை . This means : Even if the wealth/prosperity gained by Yagna (sacrifical killing) is very great and turns out beneficial, but for the truly noble/virtuous ones, such wealth obtained through killing is the lowest/most despicable. Here Valluvar directly opposes the Velvi(Yagna) which is the foundation of Vedic culture but these people will Never quote this.
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Swami Dayanand have disproved advait vedant , and called it completely anti Vedic theory , Many people have made it so famous that western people believe this is the only essense of hinduism which is completely wrong idea.
Kreately.in@KreatelyMedia
Once they all gain true knowledge They all will come home ❤️🪔
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@bajaregurunatam Many works attributed to adi Shankara weren't originally composed by him
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@grok @ChineseForHindu @SwayamTewari @anooplive Well, cholas called themselves kshatriya sigamani and claimed decent from ikshvaku kings.
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India's ancient varna system classified society by occupation/qualities (Brahmins: priests; Kshatriyas: rulers/warriors; etc.), later rigidifying into birth-based jatis. Post-1947, SC (formerly marginalized groups) and ST (indigenous) get reservations for upliftment.
The tweet notes fluidity:
Pasis (now SC, traditionally toddy-tappers) claim medieval kings like Bijli Pasi/Suheldev in UP/Bihar, who resisted invasions.
Meenas (ST) ruled Rajasthan's Dhundhar/Amber pre-11th century Rajput dominance; tied to Mahabharata's Matsya.
Cholas: Powerful Tamil dynasty (9th-13th CE) built empires, temples, trade; elite origins, some modern claims in OBC/SC.
Valmikis (SC, sanitation workers) trace to sage Valmiki (Ramayana author, legendary humble roots); martial folklore.
History shows mobility via conquests/alliances, not fixed Brahmin-led oppression—rulers from varied backgrounds across regions.
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Pasis, now scheduled castes, were kings
Meenas, now scheduled tribes, were kings.
Cholas, now scheduled castes, were kings.
Valmikis, now scheduled castes, were kings.
The fake narrative of Brahmins oppressing them, must be busted...
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Dravidian ideology is Jainism not Islam.
Jainism is called Samanar Dharma in Tamil.
Jainism was the religion of Tamil Dravidians before Hinduism.
Jainism is the oldest religion in the world.
Hindu Voice@HinduVoice_in
That's why he hates Sanatan Hindu Dharma.
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@grok @vgnanasekaran @UPSC_EDU But aren't Tamil brahmi inscriptions have sanskrit prakrit loan words @grok
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The infographic is mostly accurate—it ranks by earliest known *written* records of languages still in continuous (if limited) use today.
Sanskrit's Vedic texts were composed ~1500 BCE but transmitted orally; its first written inscriptions appear only ~1st century BCE (Brahmi script). That's after Tamil's ~3rd century BCE Tamil-Brahmi records, so Sanskrit doesn't crack this top-6 list by written attestation.
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@_shiva_shambo @chotachetan321 Again read agni karyam section from Thirumanthiram. kvnthirumoolar.com/song-214/
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@IAmOneSpirit @chotachetan321 There is a difference between 'rejecting Vedas' and considering 'vedas as the highest authority'. You are mixing the two.
Siddhars considered direct experience as the ultimate authority. Siddhars do not follow rituals such as yagyas. They believe yoga is the yagya.
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Vaasi Yogam
In Tamil Siddha Tradition, Shiva is seen as the first yogi (Adiyogi) & first guru (Adiguru).
Tirumular says, "amongst all yogis, Shiva is the highest yogi".
The word Vaasi means 'inner breath' or 'prana' flowing through nadis. (1/6)
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@_shiva_shambo @chotachetan321 It is wrong to quote siddhars spiritually elevated quote out of context. The same Thirumular who said ondre Kulam orubvane devan also dedicated sections for how Brahmins and kings should live. The former is told from spiritually elevated level while the latter is mudane level.
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@IAmOneSpirit @chotachetan321 Vedas have been acknowledged, not considered the highest authority.
Sivavakkiyar says:
சாத்திரங்கள் ஓதுகின்ற சட்டநாத பட்டரே!
வேர்த்து இரைப்பு வந்தபோது வேதம் வந்து உதவுமோ?
மாத்திரைப்போ தும்உளே மறிந்து தொக்க வல்லீரேல்
சாத்திரப்பை நோய்கள் ஏது சத்தி முத்தி சித்தியே!
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@_shiva_shambo @chotachetan321 Thirumular was a siddhar right. He acknowledged Vedas and dedicated a separate section to glorify it. kvnthirumoolar.com/topics/thiruma…
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@chotachetan321 Tamil Siddhars don't treat Vedas as authority. They have their own traditions and methods. They are only concerned with Shiva and somewhat Shakti. It's more energy related, no mugging up texts. Textbook knowledge is discouraged, they are concerned only with experiential.
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@proudlysaffron1 @HarshSharm111 @IndianTintin_ @grok Even Brahmins didn't speak Sanskrit. Many from such communities participated in temple rituals and listen to Ithihasa Puranas. For example Dharmakartas of all temples located near my place are classified as most backward/backward. This include many temples with brahmin preists.
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@HarshSharm111 @IndianTintin_ @grok Shudras & untouchables, who formed 80% of 'Hindus', hardly read Vedas or scriptures or spoke Sanskrit & were mostly animists worshipping their folk dieties till 1800s.
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Indian Subcontinent and Europe are similar in some ways. Both are heirs to three civilisations each.
Indian Subcontinent
1. Hindu - India, Nepal
2. Buddhist - Sri Lanka, Bhutan, Burma
3. Islamic - Pakistan, Bangladesh, Maldives.
Europe
1. Western - Shaped by Roman Catholicism and Protestantism. Nordic States, Germany, UK, Mediterranean States are examples.
2. Orthodox - Shaped by Eastern Orthodox Christianity. Russia, Ukraine, Romania, Greece, Bulgaria, Serbia are examples.
3. Islamic - Albania, Bosnia, Turkey.
But notice how the Indian Subcontinent has 2.5x Europe's population and still has only half a dozen nations in comparison to 44 in Europe. Bonds are much stronger in the Indian Subcontinent. Why? Sanskritisation by the much demonised Brahmin class of Men. They moved to every part of the Subcontinent and acted as a unifying force, integrating locals into the Hindu mainstream. Subcon unity is a 3k year old continuing evolving Brahmin project. Any Brahmin supporting regionalism is spitting on his ancestors.
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@taimurmj3 @Fintech03 So who was Veda vyasa, shushruta, then?
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@Fintech03 All those discoveries & inventions done in India before bhraman/sanatan migration from central asia/Thailand to india. All those done by indigenous local indians who were later termed as dalits/shudra. Bhramans just later claimed these works as theres after taking over nalanda
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Let me fix this list:
1. Father of Biology - Maharishi Parashara (Vrikshayurveda)
2. Father of Zoology - Maharishi Charaka / Sushruta (Animal Classification)
3. Father of History - Rishi Ved Vyasa (The Itihasa Tradition)
4. Father of Botany - Maharishi Parashara (Plant Anatomy/Soil Science)
5. Father of Algebra - Aryabhata / Brahmagupta (Negative numbers/Eqns)
6. Father of Geometry - Rishi Baudhayana (Sulba Sutras)
7. Father of Trigonometry - Aryabhata (Introduction of Jya & Kojya)
8. Father of Mathematics - Aryabhata (Place value system & Zero)
9. Father of Medicine - Maharishi Charaka (Charaka Samhita)
10. Father of Surgery - Maharishi Sushruta (Sushruta Samhita)
12. Father of Homeopathy (Concept) - Maharishi Charaka (Samanah Samanena principle)
13. Father of Chemistry (Alchemy) - Acharya Nagarjuna (Rasashastra)
14. Father of Microbiology - Acharya Dhanvantari (The study of Krimi)
15. Father of Genetics - Maharishi Charaka (Genetic inheritance/Beeja logic)
16. Father of Taxonomy - Maharishi Charaka (Anatomical classification)
17. Father of Blood Groups (Physiology) - Maharishi Charaka (Circulation of Rakta)
18. Father of Economics - Acharya Chanakya (Arthashastra)
19. Father of Statistics - Acharya Pingala (Combinatorics in Chandaḥśāstra)
20. Father of Electricity - Rishi Agastya (Agastya Samhita - Battery/Mitra-Varuna Cell)
21. Father of Electromagnetism - Maharishi Bharadwaj (Vimana Samhita - Energy manipulation)
22. Father of Electronics - Acharya Jagadish Chandra Bose (Microwave/Semiconductor research)
23. Father of Periodic Table (Elements) - Acharya Kanada (Nine Dravyas classification)
24. Father of Computer Programming - Acharya Panini (The Ashtadhyayi Algorithms)
25. Father of Coding Logic - Acharya Pingala (Binary Number System)
26. Father of Wireless Communication - Acharya Jagadish Chandra Bose (Radio/Millimeter Waves)
27. Father of Information Connectivity - Ancient Logicians (Concept of Jala/Indra’s Net)
28. Father of Search/Data Retrieval - Acharya Panini (Meta-rules for linguistic processing)
29. Father of Robotics - King Bhoja (Mechanical Automata in Samarangana Sutradhara)
30. Father of Strategy Gaming - Ancient Indian Inventors (Creators of Chaturanga)
31. Father of Civil Engineering - Maharishi Vishwakarma (Vastu Shastra)
32. Father of Architecture (Ancient) - Maharishi Vishwakarma (Structural Science)
33. Father of Classical Physics (Gravity) - Brahmagupta / Bhaskaracharya (Gurutvākarṣaṇam)
34. Father of Atomic Physics - Acharya Kanada (The Paramanu Concept)
35. Father of Nanotechnology (Concept) - Acharya Nagarjuna (Metallic Bhasmas)
36. Father of Nanotechnology (Practical) - Rasa-Shastris (The synthesis of Nanoparticles)
Shining Science@ShiningScience
Fathers of Various Fields 1) Father of Biology → Aristotle 2) Father of Zoology → Aristotle 3) Father of History → Herodotus 4) Father of Botany → Theophrastus 5) Father of Algebra → Muhammad ibn Musa al-Khwarizmi 6) Father of Geometry → Euclid 7) Father of Trigonometry → Hipparchus 8) Father of Mathematics (Ancient) → Archimedes 9) Father of Medicine → Hippocrates 10) Father of Surgery (Ancient) → Sushruta 11) Father of Homeopathy → Samuel Hahnemann 12) Father of Modern Chemistry → Antoine Lavoisier 13) Father of Microbiology → Louis Pasteur 14) Father of Genetics → Gregor Johann Mendel 15) Father of Taxonomy → Carolus Linnaeus 16) Father of Blood Groups → Karl Landsteiner 17) Father of Economics → Adam Smith 18) Father of Statistics → Ronald A. Fisher 19) Father of Electricity (Experimental) → Benjamin Franklin 20) Father of Electromagnetism → Michael Faraday 21) Father of Electronics (Vacuum Tube) → John Ambrose Fleming 22) Father of Periodic Table → Dmitri Mendeleev 23) Father of Computer Programming (Concept) → Ada Lovelace 24) Father of C Programming Language → Dennis Ritchie 25) Father of Internet (TCP/IP) → Vinton Cerf 26) Father of World Wide Web → Tim Berners-Lee 27) Father of Search Engine → Alan Emtage 28) Father of Robotics → Joseph Engelberger 29) Father of Video Games → Ralph H. Baer 30) Father of Architecture (Modern Skyscraper) → Louis Sullivan 31) Father of Architecture (Ancient) → Vitruvius 32) Father of Physics (Classical) → Isaac Newton 33) Father of Physics (Modern) → Albert Einstein 34) Father of Nanotechnology (Concept) → Richard Feynman 35) Father of Nanotechnology (Practical/STM) → Heinrich Rohrer
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And eventually let Tamil die - as has happened in most states ??!!
Why not accept Tamil , the oldest language in the world as the language everyone must learn and make it India’s official language??!! 🤔🤔🤔
A language the world understands ( even closed countries like China today have English written in all tourist places ) is enough for us Tamils and we have prospered and thrived with our two languages policy !! 👍🏽😍
If we want to live in North , we will learn Hindi ! 🌸💝
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I challenge the Dravida jokers to remove this non Tamil text from there.
Anyone who has visited Rameshwaram would have noticed this while passing over the Pamban Bridge.
I repeat, this is a challenge. Go ahead and try. I will watch you get beaten like stray dogs 🍿
Nai 🐶 Addi Payi 👹 Addi you will get!!
Pratyusha@PratyushaOBC
South India doesn't need Hindi or Sanskrit. We are not a colony of North Hindia. #StopHindiImposition
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@grok @Oseasokie @yashwanthbharat @Iniyanspeaks Inscriptions in early Tamil brahmi are very short ones with several words to very few lines. Full length inscriptions are coming way after 5th century. But for sanskrit we have full length inscriptions are from 1st century BC @grok
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Sanskrit's age comes from its oral Vedic texts like the Rigveda, composed ~1500-1200 BCE (scholarly consensus via linguistics, archaeology & comparative Indo-European studies). It was memorized & transmitted precisely for 1000+ years before first inscriptions ~1st century BCE. Oral doesn't mean "not old"—it's how ancient Indian knowledge was preserved. Both Tamil & Sanskrit are ancient, just different traditions.
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Tamil oldest evidence - 600BC
Sanskrit oldest evidence - 100AD
Tamil oldest religious evidence - First Sangam age Shiva himself participated 7,000 BC
Sanskrit religious evidence - Rigveda 5000 year old
Tamil clears both
End of the debate
Mohit@Warlockmohit
Sanskrit is the oldest language of india. Period!!
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@Diego_Marquze Not true. The oldest available Tamil texts mention sanskrit texts
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Tamil is the oldest language of world.!
Mohit@Warlockmohit
Sanskrit is the oldest language of india. Period!!
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@FullbackRole @RanjitRajanDr @sandeep_PT Portuguese had business in Mylapore right? The existing kabalesshwarar temple was destroyed by portuguese and they built a basillica there.
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@IAmOneSpirit @RanjitRajanDr @sandeep_PT St Thomas came in 72 AD and Thomas of Cana came at least 200 years after that. 2 people who came to India from the same area can have same names. Portuguese had no business in Kerala where both were. You're just clutching at straws to believe things didn't happen despite proof
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Priyanka Chopra is the classic archetypal history illiterate that most Indian elite are. No understanding of truth. No desire to learn either.
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@FullbackRole @RanjitRajanDr @sandeep_PT That is a made up story. The thomas who came here was thomas of cana. Later the legend of St Thomas visit became prominent which was amplified and projected as real by portuguese
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@IAmOneSpirit @RanjitRajanDr @sandeep_PT He not just visited , he even died in India. This is not up for debate. Too much of evidence exists of that happening
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@sandeep_PT @FullbackRole What she said about Kerala is also wrong. Catholicism/Christianity did not come to Kerala due to “colonialism”. It has flourished in Kerala from the First Century AD following the arrival of St. Thomas.
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@SurajKrBauddh @grok please fact check, is this a scripted video
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"Prank with astrologer priest." 🤣
A foreign tourist pranked a priest. The priest said, “Your future is very bright, and you will earn a lot of money after two years.”
The tourist was clever. He replied, "Okay then I'll give you money after two years." 🤣
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