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@TimTim2091215 @Lovecangive1 That your opinion. You will not deny them their right to have a major stake in a country built on the toil of their ancestors. That is the racism I was pointing out earlier. You are conflating it with immigrants (Indians, Chinese, Koreans, Etc) who have nothing to do with this

@SheldonCooperNG @Lovecangive1 No they aren't. Thats like saying migrant workers are americans. Sorry if you find that racist. Remigration now.

Asia wasn’t “less colonized” than Africa. The difference is how colonialism was structured. In much of Africa, colonial rule was built around extraction: steal labor, minerals, and land, and leave weak institutions behind. Borders were drawn with zero regard for nations or stability. In parts of Asia, colonialism was also brutal, but some regions inherited stronger state systems, larger industrial bases, higher population density, and earlier centralized institutions that could be rebuilt after independence. Several Asian countries also received Cold War investment because the West wanted them as anti-communist showcases. So no, Africa isn’t “behind” because Africans are worse. It’s because colonialism didn’t damage every region in the exact same way—and Africa was carved up for maximum extraction, not development.

@TimTim2091215 @Lovecangive1 Nope. Immigrants (India, Koreans, Chinese, Filipinos, Nigerians) coming into America largely follow this. Black Americans may refuse abd want to alter that. But that is within their right to do that as they are foundational Americans! So you need to make a distinction on issue

@SheldonCooperNG @Lovecangive1 They dont want to follow these "philosophies" beacuse "we have our own philosophies from home", and think that locke, jefferson, paine, are "white men and thus outside my heritage", and start to ignore the culture as they become demographically dominant. See Mamdani.

@JohnSmithmvlw @bronzeageclerk @0007ferrero Anyway I think the point is belabored. You can dispute the quality in the mid 1990s. Not sure researchers in the field will agree with you. But the important thing here is the correlation between these indices & human and economic development of countries! That what is core take

@SheldonCooperNG @bronzeageclerk @0007ferrero Where did Brittanica get their data though? My question since the beginning has been about data quality, Encyclopedias being widely bought is not proof of data quality. Even the Indian govt doesn’t publish ethnic data, where did Brittanica get this data?

This is a BS map. Indya & Russia are deep green.

@TimTim2091215 @Lovecangive1 the white centeric narrative of the origins of America, which they have every right to do as equal stake holders in the America project. For years white people wrote a biased history of America that neglected other equal stake holders. So BLM revision of America history is valid!

@TimTim2091215 @Lovecangive1 BLM are original Americans whose ancestors landed in America at about the same time as white people. So again your point is dabbling into racism if you are bringing in BLM into the discuss. African American are red-soil Americans as any White American! They're only correcting 1/2

@inter_nautico @Lovecangive1 Quality of institutions is shown to be a inversely correlated to ethnic fractionalization. Countries with high ethnic fractionalization often are too fragmented to develop or maintain strong institutions! Quality of institutions is a mediator impacted by ethnic fractionalization!

@SheldonCooperNG @Lovecangive1 I'm not arguing that the correlation exists! I'm saying that correlation is not causation , try controlling by quality of institutions and rule of law

@TimTim2091215 @Lovecangive1 As long as we continue to practice democracy and government built around the Enlightenment philosophy of the 18th century thinkers like Locke, Jefferson, Paine, of classical liberalism, then that is adopting "white culture". Crying about assimilating immigrants is just nativism!

@SheldonCooperNG @Lovecangive1 Sorry, but no. The entire claim of immigration is for "diversity of thought and beliefs". That will indelibly change the culture and history. ITs why they're rewriting books about american history as we speak, beacuse "white people dont have the strangehold of narrative".

@JohnSmithmvlw @bronzeageclerk @0007ferrero Apologize for what! Britinica in 2000 was a reputable source for this information. What other source did you expect to have this kind of cross country analysis? It was sensible for the 2000s long before internet gained mass use globally. People bought the physical Encyclopedia!

@SheldonCooperNG @bronzeageclerk @0007ferrero So are you going to apologize now? They used Brittanica as their source, and did not cross reference it with “multiple other sources”. Even the Indian govt does not publish ethnic data, where did Brittanica get ethnic data on India then?

@inter_nautico @Lovecangive1 Please can you point us to the research on current consensus u mentioned. Moreover I plotted the HDI of countries against their fractionalization indices and found that they were more correlated of we used EFIs from the past to regress against current HDIs. So this still holds!

@SheldonCooperNG @Lovecangive1 This is very old , the current consensus is that ethnic fractionalization can be managed, hell made a national resource of innovation , by inclusive institutions. Like the ones not developed by colonial powers

@TimTim2091215 @Lovecangive1 Not necessarily. If the immigrants adopt the culture and assimilate into the country they immigrate to then this will not result in regression. And immigration has not the potential to change a nation. By the 3rd generation immigrant kids lose their parents culture!

@SheldonCooperNG @Lovecangive1 Which is why Hate Migration, that is the foricble mass migration of ethnic 10s of millions into western nations, is obviously a plot to destroy those western nations.

@JohnSmithmvlw @bronzeageclerk @0007ferrero For India they used Encyclopedia Britinica for their source.

@SheldonCooperNG @bronzeageclerk @0007ferrero Please share which data sources they used for defining ethnicities in India(the paper left it vague), and how these data sources collated the relevant data. This isn’t a strawman, data quality is literally step 1 for any study.

@JohnSmithmvlw @bronzeageclerk @0007ferrero Complete strawman. They clearly stated that they used multiple sources from govt. census data to cia Factbook to encyclopedia Britinica. And they compared across sources to get consistent data. Mind u this was in 2000! Back then encyclopedia Britinica was a very reputable source

@SheldonCooperNG @bronzeageclerk @0007ferrero The fact that they used Encyclopedia Brittanica as their primary source for ethnicity puts into question how “seminal” this work was. This is exactly what @bronzeageclerk is saying, the data sources are just garbage tier and hence the results can’t be taken seriously.

@JohnSmithmvlw @bronzeageclerk @0007ferrero They are. It is such a seminal work that you are free to interrogate how ethnicity was defined. Here is the link to the publication - dash.harvard.edu/server/api/cor…

@SheldonCooperNG @bronzeageclerk @0007ferrero How does Alesina define “ethnicity”, and what were the sample sizes for this research? People are allowed to ask questions about methodology, aren’t they now?

Today’s reaction has made it clear that the majority of MAGA evangelicals don’t consider Catholics in the Middle East to be real Christians.

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@bronzeageclerk @0007ferrero @JohnSmithmvlw According to you! It peer reviewed and one of the most cited publications in field of political economy with over 7,000 citations! Alesina was one of the most influential political economist of the last decade!

@SheldonCooperNG @0007ferrero @JohnSmithmvlw Thanks for demonstrating why that chart is a joke.

@0007ferrero @JohnSmithmvlw @bronzeageclerk Yes exactly. That is what they are doing. Impressed that you caught that. What is your background?. Here is the table of the data for some countries list by ethnicity, language and religion

@JohnSmithmvlw @bronzeageclerk They are using some entropy function for this which would be weighted by sub ethnic population size..

@bronzeageclerk Russia??

@MasExMachina @Lovecangive1 It is not. If u looked at the table you see that india linguistics fractionalization is higher than that of Pakistan which confirms that they are perhaps classifying ethnicity based on large groups like Hindustanis but when they analyze by language then that becomes more diverse

@SheldonCooperNG @Lovecangive1 Largest group in India are 'Hindustanis' (~40% of population) which are more fragmented than punjabis. Pak Punjabis are seraiki/lahnda or pahari. Indian Hindustanis are divided into a dozen ethnicities with mutually unintelligble languages. So this is a load of crock.

@wholeegun2024 Here you go. Check this out. As you can see for linguistic fractionalization, Philippines is higher than Malaysia as you have pointed out

@SheldonCooperNG But notice that around 40% is non-native Chinese or Indian. No one else in SEA has that except for Singapore, but Singapore has an absokute majority immigrant Chinese population.

Lol. The Tagalogs are 33%, and Cebuanos are 25% of the population of the Philippines. So already, to get to a simple majority, you need 2 ethnicities. It's your fault for thinking Tagalogs and Cebuanos are the same.