Apollos Cassian

Orthodox brothers, @jaydyer

Titus 2:6-9 "Likewise, urge the younger men to be self-controlled. Show yourself in all respects to be a model of good works, and in your teaching show integrity, dignity, and sound speech that cannot be condemned, so that an opponent may be put to shame, having nothing evil to say about us."

My brother in Christ Jim, who defends my other brother who spreads lies about me. I'm grateful Jay has brought me out of retirement. Long before Jay was doing this I was debating with atheists on YouTube. He's slander does not phase me, but it grieves me that the one doing this is my brother in Christ. Rest assured, I am not going anywhere until I see the tables in the temple turned over.

@T4Peace @JayDyer Log off. Go to Liturgy. Stay offline. You don’t belong here.

Orthodox brothers, take your anonymous online persona and show your priest what you’re doing. Tell him an Orthodox brother named Apollos Cassian talked with @JayDyer for about 20 minutes. Tell him Apollos said some things awkwardly and could have framed his concerns better. Then tell him what happened afterward. Jay said Apollos was Catholic, even though Apollos clearly stated he was Orthodox. Jay then spread more false information, calling Apollos an ecumenist. The next day, Jay claimed Apollos is "actually insane.” None of that is true. So if you believe mocking, misrepresenting, and spreading false claims about an Orthodox brother is righteous, bring it into the light. Show your priest your posts, your replies, and your accusations. Ask yourself, is this of Christ? Not online Orthodoxy. Not influencer apologetics. Not tribal loyalty. Christ. If he has questions, you have my name. I’m reachable on Facebook.

Since Jay has blocked me but I haven't blocked him and he likes to drop a comment, tell him I said, thanks for bringing me out of retirement. Also let him know, SSRI's are for depression not narcolepsy. Lastly, let him know I will not be spreading lies about him, like he has about me. Christ calls us to love one another!

@T4Peace @JayDyer dude seriously, stop trying to be the hero

Orthodox brothers, @jaydyer

@patristic_faith someone spreading lies about another brother in Christ and you remain in silence? Does Christ and His Church have a lower standard for apologists of the faith because they bring in converts?

@HonkeyHero18 @JayDyer Call me on Facebook Messenger, we can have a conversation about what you consider these substantive arguments to be. Name calling is not an argument.

@T4Peace @JayDyer You refuse to engage with any substantive arguments that head your way. I have seen the screenshots of the things you say in your local group chat you are in. All you want to do is gossip and lie, and cry and whine and you REFUSE to see your blatant aggressive hypocrisy. Pathetic

@illustriousone5 @JayDyer Show your priest your social media and ask him for guidance. Ask him, if spreading lies about a brother in Christ gets a free pass if the person doing it is famous?

@T4Peace @JayDyer Honest question, how can I become as pious as you? You are truly a paragon of virtue that we should all strive to become.

@HonkeyHero18 @JayDyer Name calling isn't an argument nor is it engagement with what's been said.

@T4Peace @JayDyer I wish you would just stop appearing on my timeline your whiny ass effeminate posts are so annoying

@HeinrichVStahl @ScottieD0ESknow @JayDyer Be sure to visit, come to Liturgy and let us tell each other, Christ is in our midst!

@T4Peace @ScottieD0ESknow @JayDyer The only person giving up information would be me. I already know the name of your parish.

@JayDyer, this is beneath any Orthodox Christian public witness. You are now using a video of me during a period of suffering and implying I am “mentally ill” in order to discredit me. I have type 1 narcolepsy, a neurological disorder that affects wakefulness, speech, cognition, and functioning. I have spoken openly about suffering because I believe Christ meets us there — not so it could be turned into mockery by an Orthodox public figure. You can disagree with my questions. You can say I framed them poorly. I have already acknowledged that. But publicly misidentifying my faith, calling me unstable, insinuating things about my character, and now exploiting visible symptoms of illness is not correction. It is not discernment. It is not Orthodox. This is exactly the concern I raised: when Orthodox apologetics becomes indistinguishable from influencer culture, the weak are mocked, the facts become secondary, and the audience is trained to confuse cruelty with zeal. I am Orthodox. I am your brother in Christ. And this kind of public behavior needs to be rebuked plainly. Truth does not require mockery. Correction does not require humiliation. And defending the faith does not give anyone license to bear false witness against a brother.

@ScottieD0ESknow @JayDyer Does Jay posting more false information about me yesterday evoke that same call to righteousness in you?

@T4Peace @JayDyer I didn't see your apology anywhere, just 3 days of sperg posting. All of this is a response to your public behavior, fake piety, virtue signaling, and blatant hypocrisy that Jay pointed out live for thousands to see. WHERE IS YOUR APOLOGY TO JAY?

@ScottieD0ESknow @HeinrichVStahl @JayDyer I get it, you prefer to be anonymous. When you decide to walk in the light of day let me know.

@T4Peace @HeinrichVStahl @JayDyer I don't use Facebook or messenger and you don't need a video call to tell us your priest like you want everyone else to do. You won't even hold yourself to the very standard you want from others. Jay already exposed your hypocrisy live. You're just confirming it here.

I told Jay I was Orthodox on the call and gave him the year, location and parish I was baptized at. How about you take your anonymous social media account and show your priest what you're doing? Did you also tell Jay to make the post saying I'm Catholic? Did you tell him to ignore all the Orthodox videos on my X account? Did you tell him to post up that I'm an ecumenist? Did you tell him to post up yesterday that I have a mental illness? Your man enough to acknowledge an error, which is what we should do as brothers in Christ. Jay blocked me after that call and then proceeded to spread lies, I'm not sure how that reflects manliness.

Don’t blame @JayDyer for this. This is on me. I called in. You were retweeting the pope. I assumed you were RC. I told Jay that. It’s on me. I was incorrect. With that being said I still think you’re a pious princess who was way out of line. I’m man enough to admit when I’m wrong but it’s not on Jay it’s on me.

@ScottieD0ESknow @HeinrichVStahl @JayDyer Let's do a video call on Facebook Messenger. I'll tell you the name of my priest, you can also share what parish you go to. We can talk about the Gospel reading from this past Sunday.

@T4Peace @HeinrichVStahl @JayDyer How about you tell us the name of your priest so we can let him know what you've been doing for 3 days straight.

@fistofnicaea @clutchjohnson56 @JayDyer I appreciate your reply. To be clear, I have type 1 narcolepsy. This is a neurological disorder. This is not a mental illness as Jay has falsely stated.

@clutchjohnson56 @T4Peace @JayDyer I think Jay was hasty in labeling him a Roman Catholic and for jabbing about his mental health issues. Lots of you guys have emotional problems and it’s obvious from your comments. There is no need to run it in. Your response, for example, tells me everything I need to know.

Yeah, it'd be nice if Jay would stop posting lies about me despite blocking me that day. Yesterday, he doubled down and posted I have a mental illness. Take your anonymous social media and show your priest, ask him if it's okay for a brother who's a prominent apologist to spread lies to his audience of thousands.

@T4Peace @JayDyer Now you're commenting under clergy with this incessant moaning? It's been 3 entire DAYS and you've been nonstop posting about this after YOU called in to Jay and thought it was your place to offer correction using fake piety, virtue signaling, and tone policing? Hang it up man.

Been busy with Church events and pastoral needs and I forgot about the big conference. So did the Orthodox Church get owned and sent on its way to destruction? Should I be worried that all our catechumen and converts are going to quit?

Given Jay blocked me during the call, how about you tell him, forgive me. Then ask him if he will stop using that 20min conversation as justification for spreading lies about a brother in Christ? Ask if, he will apologize for saying I'm worse than Muslims and OnlyFan whores. Ask if he will apologize for posting that I'm Catholic even though I told him I'm Orthodox. Ask if he will apologize for posting up that I'm an ecumenist and questioning my sexuality. Ask if he will apologize for saying that I have a mental illness and crazy. All of this after a 20min call and blocking me. If he is willing to do this to a brother in Christ based on one 20min conversation and he's an apologist of the faith this is deeply problematic!

@T4Peace @FrLillie @JayDyer Maybe try apologizing and perhaps he will do so in turn. Or just quit being obsessed with some guy on the internet, and focus on doing what you can for the people around you.

@HeinrichVStahl @JayDyer How about you bring your anonymous social media account to your priest and let him know what you're doing.

@T4Peace @JayDyer You openly aired your dirty laundry on social media. Seek help!

@realbenbriggs @jk_fuerte @JayDyer No. Bro, I've been on social media for decades. Jay ignores all the Orthodox videos I've posted and has instead made the decision to spread lies. This is not of Christ! I'm on Facebook, YouTube, Instagram... it's easy to find the truth.

@T4Peace @jk_fuerte @JayDyer Are you an ecumenist?

Brothers, I know @JayDyer has helped some of you come to Orthodoxy. I am not denying that, and I am not trying to erase the good God has done through him. But no one’s influence — no matter how meaningful — gives him immunity from correction. Gratitude is not a substitute for accountability. I called into his show. I could have phrased my questions better. I accept that. But what happened afterward crossed lines that should matter to all of us: the public misidentification of my faith, the shifting accusations, the mockery, and the personal insinuations. None of that is acceptable behavior for an Orthodox Christian, let alone a public figure presenting Orthodoxy to thousands. We are followers of Christ. Jay and I approach the same Holy Chalice. Jay, if I were at your parish, would that make a difference? Would you see me as a brother instead of someone to ridicule, misrepresent, or spread false information about? If you turned to me and said, “Christ is in our midst,” I would embrace you as the brother you are and say, “He is and ever shall be.” When a brother falls short, we do not justify it because we admire him, or have benefited from him. We call him back through Scripture, the Saints, and the life of the Church. “All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.” — 2 Tim. 3:16 All truth belongs to God. Reposting something true does not make someone an ecumenist. If we speak of Christ, defend the Church, and call others to truth, then we must be willing to be corrected by that truth ourselves. Especially when we have influence. Especially when our words can harm a brother in Christ. Jay’s actions and many of the responses that followed have only demonstrated the concern I was trying to raise in the first place: social media can train us to treat brothers as content, correction as an attack, mockery as discernment, and influence as immunity. Jay, many of the brothers at my parish love you. They also love me.

@Abunajohn These past few days, I've been absolutely shocked by how Jay has continued to spread lies about me based on a brief 20min call with him. The lack of accountability for someone who's lauded as an Orthodox apologist is deeply concerning.

I have thousands of those comments from Jay Dyer fanboys attacking other Orthodox. It doesn’t belong in the Church. What makes anyone think they can become Orthodox and then decide they’re qualified to defend Orthodoxy and start a business from it? Now there are those advertising a Masterclass in Orthodoxy. How warped is that?

@Worldoxy Step from the shadows of anonymity and show your priest what you're posting.

@T4Peace Showing my face would be considered self promotion. Sorry.

Okay, but can you say the same thing again but do it as a really bad Trump impression?