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Beigetreten Nisan 2022
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Vroni@VroniB3·
Ok I agree with you if - you accept that because of the open accusations of mhj and hanni, illit (not belift or the manager) was cyberbullied - mhj was asked for advise from the creative director of belift and gave them willingly the planning dokuments for reference instead of giving new ideas (her own words in court) -mhj was also inspired by many different groups, characters etc. (Jeans, power puff girls, sailor moon, speed, weekly....) - in legal terms this is not plagiarism, because hybe owns the intellectual property of ador, so they can re-use it if needed - mhj was not made to be an ceo, because of her handling things like paying employees wrong, paying the production company way higher rates than the normal industry, wont read and understand important business contracts (her own words in court), telling outsiders insiderinformation about the company ... etc.
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mariah@hearts2jeanies·
i’ll join #newllithealings if - glitts acknowledge that plagiarism did take place (doesn’t make it the girls fault) - glitts acknowledge that hanni’s problem was never with the girls but with the manager and company itself - stop spreading misinfo
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Vroni@VroniB3·
I think you should think twice before making the video... Ador already stated the reason for only terminating her contract...the other members did came clean with ador after they decide to come back and asked for help to terminate the agreement with AAO, which all the member signed (presented in court as evidence) Danielle was the only member who decided that this matter isnt important enough to correct ... That means the whole reason for termination wasnt the breach itself but the attitude she had after coming back ... Let's say none of the member told ador about the other agreement including the espionage clause and they really have to tell AAO about interna of ador and hybe, then this would be a big issue for the company... let's say hybe didn't appeal the putoption case and mhj had sold hybe their shares back, then the member would be automatically in breach of the agreement with aao and have to pay penalties... You guys only jap about how bad ador and hybe is, but you dont think about the possible consequences that could happen if hybe doesnt do what they are doing now: - the appeal of the put option prevents the members of paying penalty for one of the clause of the aao contract - they dont take member back who could possibly tells internal information to other companies
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taly@talytokkiz·
One of my TikToks came up on my fyp on my personal and I watched the whole thing and at the end I was like “damn that was a good video.” Sometimes I just don’t have the energy anymore 😔 With all the hate and misinformation about me, sometimes I just can’t get myself to film TikToks 😭
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Vroni@VroniB3·
@theletter_Y How would you know? Do you think they are happy about the legal stuff like tax evasion, copyright claims etc.? In first line they are responsible for that and have to pay penalties, perhaps they can hold mhj accountable but do you think they'll get the whole sum out of it?
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Y@theletter_Y·
It is so so so transparent that Hybe are 100% behind these copyright claims. Like, it is insane how obvious. This bastard judge sent them back to hell.
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Vroni@VroniB3·
@NJZHistory Let me rephrase this, mhj gave belift the planning dokument willingly for reference after she was ask for her input ... and was then "surprised" over the similarities...
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History of Newjeans@NJZHistory·
Yes, K-pop including NewJeans is a derivative of black culture AND Belift stole NewJeans planning documents. Both sentences can co-exist. We don’t have to straw man black culture’s impact to erase what happened.
sour@sour1553797

#NEWLLITHEALINGS is only gonna work if 1. gllits stop denying njz mistreatment 2. tokkis realize no group is original and everything is stolen from black culture

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Vroni@VroniB3·
When did "mhj you have to cover the cost if you want njs to go for grammy" to "we are blocking your nomination"? When did "njs decided to terminate their own contract and ador having to fight for it" to " ador is putting njs 1.5 years on hiatus" ? When did "belifts creative director asked mhj for her opinion and mhj gave her planning dokument willingly for reference" to "hybe order to give their dokuments to belift" ?
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HYBE: I’m blocking your Grammy nomination, I’m putting you on a 1.5 year hiatus, I’m handing your planning document over to your junior group so we can replace and dispose of you NewJeans: try to escape but couldn’t HYBEcels: They are in the dungeon now cos they tried to escape
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Vroni@VroniB3·
Yeah perhaps because back then njs claimed they prepared themself? And after some members came back, ador got informations that njs in reality got help from mhj... the problem in the statement isn't ador because they only believed what the girls said ... in reality it was njs that covered up the truth to make their arguments...
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p. Lapse 🐇@howsweettttt·
Same people claiming that hanni “committed perjury” by never changing her story, are also supporting judicial estoppel and a company literally going against the claims they won with in court 💀💀💀💀
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Vroni@VroniB3·
Both points can be true from adors side... only stating that njs could promote on their own, doenst let the fact dissappear that they wasn't allowed back then because if the injunction... its basically njs did go against an official ruling, ignoring ador and yet went on stage just fine... the argument on adors side are in order and doesn't contradict itself
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gt@heyponponi·
@coolwithanni_ also why are they now acting like the complexcon concert was something they were unaware of and disapproved of when they were then using it as a proof of njs doing just fine w/o mhj. why is the complexcon perf suddenly a dispute in court? they cant get their narrative right.
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summer⁵@coolwithanni_·
ADOR previously claimed that mhj wasn’t involved in ComplexCon or the NJZ rebranding to argue that they could move forward without her. But now they’re pushing media narratives suggesting she was involved???
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Vroni@VroniB3·
@coolwithanni_ Yeah back then njs said that she wasnt involved, back then they didn't had the evidence, and at the moment they have got the evidence from the other members.... thats not a problem on adors side but on njs side, because they did lie in regards of this statement
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Vroni@VroniB3·
@giveupdontup The ipo was in 2020 and njs debut in 2022 find the error ...
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s•fi@giveupdontup·
It's 2026 and I only found out today why NewJeans ended up debuting even though Bang Shi hyuk didn't want it 😭 Turns out it was all for the sake of going public on the stock exchange so they were just used as a launchpad
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Vroni@VroniB3·
So and here is the real question: is illit really the the one who bullies njs or where they in this situation the victim ... the girls only followed the management, they got bullied because of the conflict between njs and ador/hybe that means in this case the "victim" ignores the one who started it...
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Hai4RT@Hai4RT·
@xqdU_Ubpx And for reference purposes, some examples of ostracism
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Vroni@VroniB3·
They didnt agree to bully someone... think like this... you go to school and have a similar stile like a popular girl from class, then the popular girl tells everyone you copy her and you get bullied because of it and your teacher tells you to ignore the popular girl to not get engaged in more drama... where is this bullying?
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Vroni@VroniB3·
Yeah but it depends on the attitude the other members had while returning... we dont know how the meetings with all of the members went but perhaps Danielle wouldn't do the same as the other members (for example the other members worked with ador to cancel the other contract and Danielle didnt want to) 🤔
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s•fi@giveupdontup·
At the end, if you cut through all the background noise, Danielle didn't breach her contract. And if she did, then so did every other member-which means ADOR is lying and stalling for time to destroy the group's reputation
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Vroni@VroniB3·
You shouldn't conclude what the jugde is thinking, he will decide through the law and not emotions or guesses... mhj only won her case because she didn't took further steps for tempering in the moment of the termination through ador ... for example if hybe did fire her in oktober not in June of 2024, the case would be probably in favour of ador
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Pop EMPIRE@PopEmpirex·
Our analysis on how ADOR vs Danielle's Lawsuit is going so far: Danielle's Side: - Want the case to be over quickly so she can continue solo activities (Judge agrees) - Open to settle for penalties if calculated fairly based on how NewJeans would continue for 2026 & beyond, judge agrees that NewJeans is not the same without Min Hee-jin and Danielle therefore an Expert should take that into consideration. (says the group is effectively broken) - Expressed that All NewJeans Members breached their Contracts with ADOR, not just Danielle, the intention of ADOR suing Danielle is malicious and not for contract termination. ADOR's side: - Claim that All NewJeans Members signed a Dual Contract breaching their contract with ADOR (feeds the media but doesn't help their case about Danielle individually, rather proves that all meembers participated together) Judge believes that if Danielle's position was simply that she went along with or followed others, then perhaps the case should focus on calculation of damages and conclude quickly.
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Vroni@VroniB3·
And thats when time is important... the first sentence is based on the contract case, where njz claimed that mhj didnt help them in their decision, so hybe made the argument that they can work without mhj... after that it came out that in fact she did... its not hybe that's lying but njz members back then ...
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it was a gi jane JOKE
So first Hybe was saying that Newjeans don’t need mhj because they worked as NJZ with out her but now dispatch (a company that gets information from Hybe a lot) comes out and says she’s involved?
pannchoa@pannchoa

Dispatch's new exposé reveals that Min Heejin orchestrated NewJeans' re-debut as 'NJZ', scheduled NJZ's new profile photoshoot, planned the groups' independent activities in Hong Kong, tried to block ADOR from interfering with NJZ's plans, and more... tinyurl.com/5fzmk2fw

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Vroni@VroniB3·
@giveupdontup Mhj influenced them to try to terminate their contract, she promised them, that they wont have to pay the penalty or courtcosts, but it was their own decision to do it, mhj cant force them
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Vroni@VroniB3·
@LoveStarzz1 Thats not new, this was the evidence in the last cases....
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Anything NJZ ⚢@LoveStarzz1·
🚨 New information in court reveals illit agreed to bully newjeans with their manager!!
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Pop EMPIRE@PopEmpirex·
Judge tells ADOR to consider that NewJeans has effectively broken up and one member has left while discussing how to calculate Penalties in Danielle's Lawsuit.
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Vroni@VroniB3·
@PopEmpirex Yeah with this statement he basically is saying that based on the context ador has there is ground for termination and they only should review their calculation for the penalty 🙄
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Pop EMPIRE@PopEmpirex·
Judge: So ADOR assumes that the performance achieved in 2023 and 2024 would have continued into 2025. ADOR: There weren't 2024 figures. Judge: Weren't there revenues you claimed of about KRW 100 billion in both 2024 and 2025? The contracts were terminated in November. Isn't 2025 the relevant gap period? ADOR: The problems began in 2024. Judge: If this isn't really a discounted future cash flow analysis but is instead similar to calculating business interruption losses, couldn't it simply be calculated using accounting records? The accounting data could simply be verified by the defendants.
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Vroni@VroniB3·
Yeah and thats new information for you? The ruling in the contract validity case in oktober only said that ador didn't breach the contract... it didnt mean that the girls didn't do it ... the matter in this case is the following: what did or did Danielle not after she decided to go back, thats different to the other members, that made ador terminate only her contract? Thats the main question... In the hearing yesterday it came out, that the girls signed a third party contract and the other girls decided to terminate it through ador ... perhaps Danielle didn't want to do it? Also Danielle was the only member who did individual work outside the group activities and was in rhe public eye after the injunction...
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Pop EMPIRE@PopEmpirex·
NEW: ADOR says ALL NewJeans Members have breached their Exclusive Contract: - NewJeans formed a New Association under 'NJZ' led by Min Hee-jin for the purpose of conducting entertainment management and agency business. - The rent for a practice studio, which was leased with the intention of being shared with the boy group that Min Hee-jin plans to produce, was likewise paid using the association's funds. - The venue rental fee for the press conference regarding the termination of the exclusive contract, led by Min Heejin (former ADOR CEO and current CEO of Ooak Records), was paid using the association's funds. - The costs of creating the NJZ logo and producing various photoshoots after the members announced their re-debut as NJZ were also paid using the association's funds. All of the above has not been established as a fact by the court.
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Vroni@VroniB3·
@PopEmpirex Perhaps... Its because the other members decided to cancel the second contract and Danielle didnt ...
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Pop EMPIRE@PopEmpirex·
NewJeans signed a Dual Contract according to ADOR's Claim as its being accounted for as 'evidence' Danielle's Legal Team responded in Court However ADOR faces a Massive Issue in court now: Why Sue Danielle Only? From their Side: All NewJeans Members, technically did breach their contract TOGETHER. “The activities that ADOR actually claims constitute a major breach of contract—such as participation in ComplexCon and the formation of a union—involve all NewJeans members, yet they are blowing the matter out of proportion as if only Danielle had committed a specific breach of contract.” At the time period, NewJeans established NJZ where all Members participated in the matter. If court deems it as valid, that would validate that All NewJeans Members breached their contract and should be dismissed It's looking like a No way to win case for ADOR if they don't prove that Danielle Signed Exclusive Contracts by herself without involving other members in the matter during their decision where they wanted OUT of the company.
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