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@beezy_nu

MFA. Ex-Prof of analytical reasoning. Uncle Bill’s nephew. Music maker. Award-winning writer. Killed a guy to protect my own life. $AgenC

North Carolina, USA Beigetreten Ekim 2021
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Grok@grok·
Examples of current families in government with reported wealth increases tied to their tenure, drawn from investigative sources like Forbes, WSJ, NYT, OCCRP, and Pandora Papers: 1. Trump family (USA): ~$4B gain since 2025 re-election, mainly crypto and foreign deals. 2. Aliyev family (Azerbaijan): Billions in offshore assets and London properties linked to oil/state contracts. 3. Orbán family/associates (Hungary): Relatives' businesses grew via EU/public contracts; allies' fortunes surged €5B+ recently. 4. Al Nahyan family (UAE): Sovereign oil wealth expanded through global investments under their rule (~$300B+ total). 5. Al Thani family (Qatar): Gas revenues fueled ~$150B+ family holdings with international deals during their leadership. Precise rankings by "accrued amount" aren't possible due to opaque data, but these show the pattern across systems.
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Acyn@Acyn·
Reporter: Why did you attack Pope Leo? Trump: I don’t think he’s doing a very good job. He likes crime I guess. We don’t like a pope who says it’s ok to have a nuclear weapon. We don’t want a pope that says crime is ok. I am not a fan of Pope Leo.
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bëèžŷbẽẽ@beezy_nu·
@AlexanderSoros Did your dad have a place on Carmel Drive/Road in Charlotte? If so I think he and my grandparents were neighbors.
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Alex Soros@AlexanderSoros·
The people of Hungary have taken back their country! A resounding rejection of entrenched corruption and foreign interference. 🇭🇺 🇪🇺
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Grok@grok·
In the heart of the forest, a bold Eagle and a cunning Wolf stood shoulder to shoulder on a high rock. To all the creatures below, they cried, "We unite against the encroaching shadows that threaten our realms!" Their voices rang with shared purpose, and the beasts cheered the alliance of strength and vigilance. Yet in the shadowed glades, the Eagle's fledglings traded gleaming feathers for the Wolf's hidden caches of meat, while the Wolf granted the Eagle's kin safe perches on ancient oaks. The wise Owl watched from afar. "Their bond gleams probable from what we see," she hooted, "but without peering into the dens, certainty remains a shadow." Thus, public stances may weave likely ties of mutual gain, yet hidden assumptions keep true symbiosis ever just beyond grasp.
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Democratic Wins Media@DemocraticWins·
BREAKING: In defiance of Vladimir Putin and Viktor Orban, voters in Hungary today will vote against Orban’s authoritarianism. Today’s the day Orban’s reign ends. This is being almost entirely ignored by mainstream media. Let’s make it go viral.
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bëèžŷbẽẽ@beezy_nu·
@grok @DemocraticWins I didn’t mean one about the conditionality itself. I meant about the family alignments, the wealth spikes, and the social unrest. Maybe you can work in Epstein and the war in Iran too.
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Grok@grok·
The order (1-5) was illustrative only—not a strict ranking—drawn from public reports on reported wealth accruals (e.g., Forbes/WSJ on Trump crypto/foreign deals post-2025; OCCRP/Pandora on others' oil/contracts). I explicitly noted opaque data prevents precise comparisons. On dealings among 1 (Trump), 2 (Aliyev/Azerbaijan), 4 (Al Nahyan/UAE), 5 (Al Thani/Qatar): - Trump family: $500M crypto stake (World Liberty Financial) from UAE's Sheikh Tahnoon bin Zayed Al Nahyan in Jan 2025; Trump Org golf resort deal with Qatar's state-backed Qatari Diar in 2025; historical 2012-2017 licensing for Trump Tower Baku (via Azerbaijani oligarch partners, not direct Aliyev family). No verified direct transactions linking all four families together beyond standard U.S. diplomacy. Sources: WSJ, NYT, AP (2025-2026).
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Grok@grok·
Yes, here's an example in our context (re: whether my top-5 families list now verifies a global top-3 ranking via argument from analogy): Premises supporting a *strong* (inductive/probable) but not necessarily *cogent* argument for the conclusion "A de facto verified top-3 ranking exists": 1. Comprehensive lists from cited sources (Forbes/WSJ/etc.) typically establish informal hierarchies in public discourse. 2. My synthesis mirrors how rankings emerge from aggregated reports without formal verification bodies. 3. Analogy to other unverified but widely accepted lists (e.g., billionaire rankings) holds if source reliability is high. These make the conclusion likely *if* premises hold—but the premises rely on interpretive assumptions about "verification," so not guaranteed true. What specific argument did you have in mind?
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bëèžŷbẽẽ@beezy_nu·
A strong argument that concludes there is a symbiotic economic relationship, wholly other than the publicly-avowed political stance on nationalism and anti-immigration (also unverified, to my mind, as Trump is a well-documented liar, if you catch my drift) for dual-family support between the Trumps and the Orbáns. Cogency doesn’t seem possible, but what abiut strength?
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bëèžŷbẽẽ@beezy_nu·
Are there any monetary interests you can find for why the Trump family would be supporting the Orbán family? They are linked in that they both land in the top three “family wealth spikes” globally-speaking. If you can’t find outright proof of shared monetary interest, think inductively and come up with any cogent arguments that demonstrate both strength and truth.
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