“No first beginning of the craving for existence can be perceived, before which it was not and after which it came to be …. I say, O monks, that also craving for existence has its condition that feeds it and is not without it. And what is it? Ignorance, one has to reply”
“What, O monk, is the origin of suffering? It is that craving which gives rise to fresh rebirth and, bound up with pleasure and lust, here and there, finds ever fresh delight.”