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Erik Andreassen
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Erik Andreassen
@eandreassen
Pastor, skribent og forfatter. Generelt samfunnsinteressert og for glad i å diskutere. https://t.co/cLyP5pXSkF https://t.co/HOu5LRdlMC
Oslo Norway Beigetreten Eylül 2009
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@Anabenbell @NewlOdah @MikeWingerii Sorry, but it is not an opinion-piece. They interviewed several churchleaders. Maybe they are all enemies of the truth?
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@eandreassen @NewlOdah @MikeWingerii This sounds like an opinion piece which doesn't really say anything. The newspaper supports the status quo in Denmark (everything is fine) Torben disagrees.
This doesn't mean either party holds the complete truth. Do you not understand that opinion pieces are irrelevant?
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Hey
@MikeWingerii You are being used by Torben Sondegaard and his friends as proof that his story is legit. This is a norwegian newspaper today: "[he] helped the Christian influencer Mike Winger expose Christian leaders in the US and believes this inspires confidence."
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@Anabenbell @NewlOdah @MikeWingerii They really didn't, there is no real evidence and it will be clear soon enough.
Now I'm finished here. Thanks
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@eandreassen @NewlOdah @MikeWingerii All that matters really is whether the people holding grudges really did what TLR uncovered & claimed they did & get Torben into trouble re his US visa which ended in his imprisonment. Bc that's malicious behavior & it began in Denmark
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@Anabenbell @NewlOdah @MikeWingerii A conservative christian Newspaper: Danish church leaders on Søndergaard’s asylum application: – Absurd
In Denmark, free-church leaders are shaking their heads at Torben Søndergaard’s description of the situation for evangelical Christians.
“Denmark is not a banana republic,”

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@eandreassen @NewlOdah @MikeWingerii So what is your understanding of why he was imprisoned in the US & eventually deported?
Given the secular society in Denmark it can be argued that inevitably his church would be viewed unfavorably by authorities. Is Denmark a highly conformist society?
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@Anabenbell @NewlOdah @MikeWingerii Norwegian newspaper last week: “He claims that Søndergaard helped the Christian influencer @MikeWingerii expose Christian leaders in the United States, and he believes this builds trust.”

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@Anabenbell @NewlOdah @MikeWingerii Torben and followers are using this apperance as a legitimation of Torbens story, that he "was in jail beacuse of lies" and that "his minstry was tried stolen from him", which is not true. Mike did nothing wrong, but Torben is using it.
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@Anabenbell @NewlOdah @MikeWingerii I have really not said anything negative about the Koko-episode in it self, and it was really good that Torben helped expose him. But in the episode, not related to Koko, Torben where repeated untruths about his own story.
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@eandreassen @NewlOdah @MikeWingerii That you are willing to undermine a witness's account of Koko's predatory behavior to satisfy your personal animosity about the witness is deeply concerning.
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@Anabenbell @NewlOdah @MikeWingerii It is in the video-reportage in the linked newsarticle. Thy said "it was very intrusive". 00.30 sec.
As to the baptism, it gives context to the controversies.
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@eandreassen @NewlOdah @MikeWingerii Why in your article did you bother to the baptism theological sticking point? Are you from a denomination that believes in only 1 baptism? Why did you bother to report on the hospital incident? You reported hearsay with no real evidence of what patients truly thought.
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@eandreassen @MikeWingerii @TorbenSonder If you decide not to put the timeline back up with corrections or more details, but instead "leave it to God to reveal the truth" because you "feel like it" and claim you have more important things to do: Who are the people above you allowing this?

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@Anabenbell @NewlOdah @MikeWingerii Follow the story and let's see.
But the documentation was really bad and partly false.
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@eandreassen @NewlOdah @MikeWingerii As a Pastor you have greater responsibility for your public words & your unsubstantiated opinions on the info taken down mark you as a disingenuous person. They had names & receipts eg websites, social media profiles & youtube video content by the conspirators
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@Anabenbell @NewlOdah @MikeWingerii Yes, almost pure fiction and taken down by YouTube because of breach of rules
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@eandreassen @NewlOdah @MikeWingerii Did you watch the series of investigations by TLR on their own website. The timeline narrative of a few people with personal grudges conspiring together?
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@eandreassen @NewlOdah @MikeWingerii The Medium article focuses mostly on theological disagreements between different christian groups. Such disagreements are boring to nonbelievers - except this time it includes deliverance controversies which make for sensationalist content.
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@NewlOdah @MikeWingerii He has now taken down his Timeline because of attacks, for a "review". I know it is also for other reasons, but it will be exciting to see the new documention
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@eandreassen @MikeWingerii I disagree with some of Torben's theology, but what are YOU trying to achieve here? Turn Mike Winger against Torben? Hasn't Torben said there should be an independent investigation regarding your accusations? Torben seems to bring plenty of receipts. torbensondergaard.com/timeline
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@Anabenbell @NewlOdah @MikeWingerii It is for the most part the exact oppsite, but ok. Check the article👆 And the videos from the Danish suspicious media
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@eandreassen @NewlOdah @MikeWingerii Torben was targeted by a narcissist who had a grudge against Torben. Danish media are secular & suspicious of religion & viewed Torben's theology as primitive superstition & a public danger. They conspired to damage his reputation. The TLR website has the full story
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@NewlOdah @MikeWingerii @TorbenSonder Yes, but it doesn’t have to be that complicated. He can simply start by giving all his documentation to his friends in Norway who are now asking for it — the churches that have publicly supported him until now. But he won’t. Why? 🧐
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@eandreassen @MikeWingerii @TorbenSonder My bar's pretty high for Torben: I expect him to be transparent, speak the truth, the whole truth & nothing but the truth, and admit to any mistakes made in the past-even recent ones, if any. That said, I can understand that an independent investigation'd be best for all parties
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@NewlOdah @MikeWingerii @TorbenSonder It’s exactly the opposite. Ask Torben to prove concrete facts with full documentation, and he uses every trick in the book to get out of it. Do your own fact-check of the article 👆.
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@eandreassen @MikeWingerii What matters more than what I think is the truth and how @TorbenSonder responds. He doesn’t seem to shy away from critical questions, and I don’t see a cover-up culture at play (at least not yet).
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@eandreassen Thank you for the article. It is really interesting. TS could have moved to any other EU country but wanted to live in California, like many evangelicals drawn to palm treees, beaches, the US lucrative preaching circuit….
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@MikeWingerii He has sued the whistleblowers and made an "impressive" story that some Danish guy is behind all his problems. Its really problematic. He´s a small evangelist in US-terms, but the damage is real.
Ok, now I stop.
Check e-mail. Thanks!
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@MikeWingerii The revealing of this, in the Danish documentary i 2019, was a big reason for him "fleeing" to the US because of "persecution". Later sesking asylum because of VISA-trouble, witch he later was detained for. Or in his story: "Jailed because of christ" (and because of "lies")
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