Dave de Fijter

@DLPReport You can get the jacket still at the counter in the back of Star Traders, they have them behind the counter 👍

🛍 #MayThe4th merch drop at Star Traders: - Star Tours cap (€22) - Starspeeder and character t-shirts (€36 each) - May The 4th Tumbler (€30) - The Star Tours jacket appears sold out at the moment

@Vrom14286662 Can you maybe try and stop hyping everything up? There’s nothing to it but regular maintenance making it easier for us to maintain the testnet - nothing more.

Reset of #ShimmerEVM testnet... 🤔 What comes next @fijter?

@theissler Not too much to tell but I'll write a new update on Discord tomorrow then I guess :) tl;dr: Currently still preparing for an RC release with pruning, nonce fix, and some other breaking changes included. If our internal tests go well we will announce a new testnet reset date.

Hey Dave! Can you share any new insights about ShimmerEVM (#Shimmer/#IOTA) yet? Is there already a new date for the network reset? Did any new issues come up? As you might imagine, uncertainty is usually even worse than a missed ETA. 😉 Thx! @fijter

@tcampomanes @Vrom14286662 Software maturity comes with usage, and what comes from that is often hard to predict. Overall the testnet has held up quite well and we're confident in it, we just need to ensure that we launch in a sustainable, maintainable way.

@fijter @Vrom14286662 No, it's good and the idea is very good. But the community had the feeling that the shimmerEVM project was more mature, or that's the feeling I got from the reviews about it. Maybe the messages have been misinterpreted.

Hey @fijter, if implementing the pruning is a bigger issue, wouldn't it be an idea to first release an EVM chain without pruning and later add another EVM chain with pruning? I thought this was the great benefit of the Tangle, that we can have multiple parallel SC chains...

@tcampomanes @Vrom14286662 It's a bit of a chicken and egg problem, if we would've built this in silence it would launch with 0 projects on it and 0 learnings from those experiences. We've decided to involve the community and projects early on to be part of this development process. Was it wrong?

@Vrom14286662 @fijter I am confident in the project, I am not in a hurry, I think we all want a safe and quick result and development times are like that. The only thing that bothers me is that the FI is selling the bear's skin before it is hunted.

@tcampomanes @Vrom14286662 We were hoping to implement pruning after launch, but it turns out we might not be able to catch up if we don't do it right from the launch due to how heavy that process is in combination with the state tries we are using; So we had to move this forward.

@tcampomanes @Vrom14286662 That's okay, it has a long background story. We revisited the storage several times during the project; The initial version was pruned by default for all nodes actually but this was not acceptable for the launching EVM projects and indexers so we added historical support.

@ZurichIota @Vrom14286662 Where do these 3 months come from? As I wrote we've identified during the testing what still needs to be resolved before launch, we fix, test it again, and launch. We want to do this asap but are just not setting a hard date for it.

@JacobNH91 @TheDLTimes @Vrom14286662 It's in everyone's interest to launch ShimmerEVM, and we have the task of delivering the software for that. We've always known we needed this but assumed we could add it later when it becomes a problem. After mass testing, it shows we have to address it now instead.

@TheDLTimes @fijter @Vrom14286662 I can understand them not having it ready, but why didn't they realize that they need a solution for pruning earlier? While building? or in december, or during the alpha, or during the closed beta?

@Buddh1n1 @Vrom14286662 I'm not convinced a whole ecosystem automatically moves to another network as soon as it becomes available and we can not predict this behavior, looking at other networks this sounds unlikely. We have to assume ShimmerEVM will remain used and in use for years to come.

@TheDLTimes @dikko_man I’m happy to address these projects and I think they understand, they know where to find me - I am however done giving you any further attention if you are just being a toxic keyboard warrior trying to trigger or insult me in every response

@TheDLTimes @dikko_man It’s a question of timing, do you need it for the launch, or can you add it later. We assumed the latter but given the testnet results we changed that opinion. Your final statement only tells me you don’t even know what Shimmer and ShimmerEVM actually are 🤷‍♂️

@TheDLTimes @dikko_man Just calling you out for jumping to conclusions without knowing what you are talking about or asking for more information. It’s always so easy from the sidelines to judge and point fingers, calling others incompetent while adding 0 value yourself.

@TheDLTimes It’s not a research topic at all, you are being a massive drama queen

@TheDLTimes We never communicated a hard release date, it is done when we consider it good enough because we are the ones that will have to fix it if it goes wrong.

@TheDLTimes It’s expectation management, with the team we analysed and concluded based on the campaign results so far that we need this for the launch and we are being open about the what and why. I think it’s pretty naive to assume something works perfectly after the first mass test.

@ZurichIota @Vrom14286662 I don’t see your point, you are able to see and use the testnet. It’s there, it’s working and it’s working well. Do you really think it’s in anyones interest besides some non committed speculators looking for moon to cut some final corners just to launch a little bit faster?

@moo9000 @FM0ral3s @aprendizdetod @antonionardella This is obviously a precondition for any of this to work, it's not really within my scope but it has been work in progress for a while now and it's definitely coming, at some point in the future 😅

@fijter @FM0ral3s @aprendizdetod @antonionardella Yes now please push it out from the door and have a working decentralised mainnet.

Shimmer Ethereum Virtual Machine (EVM) is also compatible with other EVM-compatible blockchains, this is very important. Now developers can deploy their dApps to multiple chains simultaneously. The beginning of digitization of the world starts here. #Shimmer

@moo9000 @FM0ral3s @aprendizdetod @antonionardella Also, we don't see DeFi as an end goal perse, but more as a building block towards a bigger ecosystem more approachable to players currently not active in the SC game, allowing permissionless private chains to interact with these public DeFi chains opens up possibilities as well.

@moo9000 @FM0ral3s @aprendizdetod @antonionardella That's okay to assume that, time will tell. We have the basic building blocks in place an the testnet is already hosting several well done DEX (ShimmerSea.finance, TangleSwap.exchange), Lending platforms (for example Deepr.finance), Pyth oracles and more.