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James Ray

@frameworkguru

Public notes doc. Dodging algorithmic relevance as best I can. Book: Framework BlogBook Substack: Obligate Brahmin

Austin, TX Beigetreten Ağustos 2024
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James Ray
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Little-known fact: Nietzsche went insane because he psychedelically transcended time standing by a rock in Switzerland and experienced the holocaust via extratemporal vicarious back-propagation.
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@RexDouglass An institution that set out to teach people how to be scientists and was funded as such wouldn't have an issue; the issue is that universities follow a "learn by doing" model that produces either fake learning or fake doing. His Alice and Bob example hinged on a fake toy problem!
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@RexDouglass Yeah, the fact that he frames the problem as "this will gut our institutions" and not "how can we use these tools to achieve the intended result" underscores how farcical the institutions are. It's only a problem because they claim to make science but instead make scientists.
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@panickssery There's been a huge amount of progress on all of these points, what are you talking about.
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Arjun Panickssery
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asked Claude for key moral questions discussed by the ancient greeks and it said they tried to define - the good life - justice - objective vs relative morality - the individual–community relationship - how to face suffering/death not much convergence since (much less progress)
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@jasonbowden1000 @Wormsworth__ I was gonna say, it's pretty central to Christianity that God has personhood. The alternative view is way farther from our cultural priors.
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Jason Bowden
Jason Bowden@jasonbowden1000·
@Wormsworth__ Hegel would agree with your professor. A holist, he believed there are no islands of reality. So if we are free, have rational self-knowledge, and are capable of integral self-expression, then we can supposedly reverse-engineer or reconstruct reality to explain these facts.
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Cory@Wormsworth__·
Hegel insisted, against Spinoza, that the Absolute must be 'subject' and not merely substance. An old professor once laughingly explained to me that "if Hegel were a triangle rather than a human, he would have posited the Absolute as essentially triangular."
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Perfect illustration of how moral sublimation renders evo-psych incoherent. Sperm donation is an abstract social transaction and therefore not subject to the conditioning instilled by evolution.
Shylock Holmes@shylockh

The lack of interest in sperm donation is a truly bizarre mistake from an evolutionary perspective. Genetic million dollar briefcases of cash sitting on the sidewalk, and almost no men pick them up because "it's weird" or "it might lead to an awkward conversation in 20 years".

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@kendrictonn @SpencrGreenberg Agreed, the loose orb on the bottom right is suspicious. 2 we can discount because an AI would think that pineapple was "wrong", bottom left because of the fly (if prompted in manually, it would have been made more central to the composition). 1 I'm not sure on.
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Kendric Tonn@kendrictonn·
@SpencrGreenberg For what it's worth, and it's probably worth something, I do not recognize any of these pieces, and am most suspicious of 1 and 4, top left and bottom right, being AI. I guess it's a professional opinion, but I am not confident in it
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Spencer Greenberg 🔍
Spencer Greenberg 🔍@SpencrGreenberg·
Can you tell which of these four fruit still lifes were made by AI and which were made by a 19th-century painter? At least one was painted by a human, and at least one was made by an AI. Place your guesses in the 4 surveys below:
Spencer Greenberg 🔍 tweet media
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Florian Sedivy
Florian Sedivy@Flexperte·
@SpencrGreenberg That’s why I put it in apostrophes: kind of, in essence human originated. I claim: these results would not be possible without the original! human painted still lives as training data (my § 2), thus I stand by my observation. Don’t you actually agree? Let’s put it to test!
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@BlakkBile He's just confusing Faulkner and Mark Twain
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@NapoleonThyCat @akoustov A professor knows the effects of cognitive offloading does to a student. They are aware every time they use AI to publish a journal with fake sources, it creates more time and effort for everyone to verify if the work is true (which is why I said nobody should read his work).
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Erik Thurman is illustrating for a better future
Across academia, journalism, and the arts, I don't think we've ever seen a moment in contemporary history where people so openly discredit themselves willingfully in public.
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@unisoccon @aryehazan The purpose of the shrimp hypothetical is to get people to answer "does human consciousness have some transcendental ultimate value that animals don't". You obviously disagree; I agree with you. But I don't discount the alternative sufficiently to dismiss the question.
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Aryeh Kontorovich
Aryeh Kontorovich@aryehazan·
you are not a serious person if you disagree that some number of shrimp outweighs a human (in value, not mass)
Fourth Position@unisoccon

@aryehazan @yhdistyminen Googol shrimp > 1 human You are not a serious person if you disagree, because any reality in which this is a dilemma would minimally cause horrific outcomes for everything involved, because you can't have a googol of something like a shrimp without it being important

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@unisoccon @aryehazan I can't tell who's agreeing or disagreeing with who; I was taking Aryeh's statement at face value and arguing against that. I don't object to your statement about unintended consequences but I do think it defeats the purpose of the hypothetical
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@zenahitz Synthetic (pidgin Kant) subjects require you to apply learned principles in succession, analytic subjects require you to generalize from whatever you do know. The former has a lot of failure points, the latter has none. Doesn't mean STEM education is bad.
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Zena Hitz@zenahitz·
This is obviously true, and suggests that STEM general education is doing very poorly.
Voice of Yogi Berra AM/FM/HD/AGI/PhD@RLangford18

@zenahitz Hypothesis: Percentage of STEM students with at least an amateur level understanding of liberal arts is much higher than percentage of liberal arts students with amateur level understanding of STEM? How do we test it?

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That isn't to say that AI won't replace us; just that it might collide with material circumstances which constrain it either before or after we've been borged. Maybe genies require dyson spheres to do their magic.
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Petrarch kicks off the Renaissance and we get a flood of geniuses inventing things- it's not like he brought it about with gene-editing. It was a question of social technology. The same brains writing hymnals in monasteries in 760AD had productive work to do in the 1400s.
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If the thing we call intelligence is a measure of "problem solving speed" rather than "problem solving capability", we should expect it to largely wash out in the course of history at the macro-level, because familiarity with your own problems approximates higher intelligence.
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@jmbollenbacher I understand the statements but I'd like to read the argument
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@RuxandraTeslo The culture of Rationalism is designed around this. Fierce skepticism about the qualitative, hapless dogmatism about the quantitative. The trouble is how often they mistake the former for the latter! But I don't think it's IQ, I think it's autism.
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Ruxandra Teslo 🧬
Ruxandra Teslo 🧬@RuxandraTeslo·
Above the "studies shows" upper midwit in intelligence, but equally mind-diseased is another phenotype: the open-minded, hyper-rational guy who sees their inability to appreciate things that are non-quantifiable and belong to the spiritual as a sign of intellectual superiority.
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But I don't really like overly complex games, so I'm probably not the best judge.
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Final Fantasy Tactics; very complex just due to the combinations of jobs and how they interact with stats and items
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-"Puzzle games" usually aren't actually very complex, in the sense of a lot of moving parts; rather, their parts fit together weirdly. Really complex puzzles (Fez, Animal Well) are basically designed as ARGs- so, wikislop. The Witness is the upper bound for non WS puzzles imo
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