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The power of ideas. Designing AI at @NotionHQ. Notion AI, Meeting Notes, Software Factory

San Francisco, CA Beigetreten Şubat 2024
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Frank@frank_·
got a mac studio. set up openclaw. barely touched my computer this weekend and yet, in two days: 1. ran a psychological analysis on years of my writing 2. indexed and saved all my posts and bookmarks from x to notion, and ran another analysis 3. generated two educational sites for things i wanted to learn about, TUIs, and embedding data visualization. 4. analyzed my side project's codebase and produced papers in notion explaining some things that were fuzzy in simple terms 5. optimized video delivery on my boyfriend's website meanwhile i was mostly not on my computer. celebrated valentine's day, got dinner, went to the movies, walked in the rain in the presidio, and spent time learning math with a pen and paper for pleasure. agents are impressive. but it was the freedom to not be on my computer while doing so much that surprised me the most.
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i'm building Notion using @NotionHQ — meta! ⚡️
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Sarah Sachs
Sarah Sachs@sarahmsachs·
Loved chatting with you, but why did you have to choose a cover photo that looks like TMZ coverage of @simonlast and I getting divorced? 💀
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Latent.Space@latentspacepod

🆕 The Full Story of Notion AI latent.space/p/notion We're so excited to chat with @simonlast and @sarahmsachs about Notion's "Token Town" - the crack team of AI Engineers and Model Behavior Engineers entrusted with building AI for Silicon Valley's most beloved knowledge work collaboration platform - and their latest launch of Custom Agents! We talked: • The full history of the 5 major rebuilds of Notion AI — and the key lessons from each • How to eval agent *usefulness* not just correctness • MCP vs CLI pros and cons • What "work" looks like when agents are coworkers — why they build for the "top of the class" rather than dumb down AI for everyone • Simon's take on the ideal "software factory" of the future and so much more! Timestamps: 00:00:00 Introduction and launching Notion Custom Agents 00:01:17 Why Notion rebuilt agents four or five times 00:03:35 Building for where models are going, not just where they are 00:05:32 The Agent Lab thesis, wrappers, and product intuition 00:08:07 User journeys, leadership, and low-ego AI teams 00:13:16 The Simon Vortex, hackathons, and bringing security in early 00:16:39 Team structure, demos over memos, and building for agents 00:20:25 Evals, Notion’s Last Exam, and the Model Behavior Engineer role 00:27:37 Evals as an agent harness and the changing role of software engineers 00:30:42 The software factory: specs, verification, and agent workflows 00:32:18 Live demo: a custom agent for coworking space applications 00:35:08 Composing agents, manager agents, and memory as pages 00:38:15 Notion Mail, Gmail, native integrations, and tools 00:39:43 MCP vs CLI and the cost of capability 00:44:13 When Notion uses MCP vs building its own integrations 00:47:43 The history of Notion’s agent harness rebuilds 00:55:35 Power users, public tools, and the setup agent 00:58:01 Self-fixing agents, permissions, and “flippy” 01:01:13 Pricing, credits, and choosing the right model automatically 01:09:01 Why Notion isn’t training its own frontier model 01:14:07 Retrieval, ranking, and search built for agents 01:17:27 Meeting Notes as data capture and workflow automation 01:21:18 Wearables, hardware, and Notion as the system of record 01:23:45 Outro

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Frank@frank_·
computers in the 60s. you fed them punched cards. hours later, maybe the next day, they would output paper with numbers on it. that was computing. in 1963, Ivan Sutherland published his PhD thesis at @MIT "Sketchpad, A Man-Machine Graphical Communication System." what if a computer could be a screen and a light pen in your hand. you point at the screen and you draw a line. the computer makes it straight. you draw another line and say "these two should be connected at this point" and from then on they are. if you move the point, both lines move. what if you could draw, say, a square and say "this is a master square." and you could stamp copies of it all over your drawing—instances. each was its own thing, sitting in its own place, maybe rotated, maybe scaled. but they all pointed back to the master. and if you modified it, every instance everywhere updated immediately. and what if this wasn't just about graphics on screen. but the idea that things on the screen could be more than even pictures. that they could be objects, with characteristics, and behaviors. for ivan, the way computing was being done was not the way it had to be done. computing didn't have to be punched cards and printouts. It could be this too.
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Laura Burkhauser
Laura Burkhauser@burkenstocks·
this is what context looks like 😅
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Brian Lovin
Brian Lovin@brian_lovin·
Thank you @ridd_design for asking all the right questions so I could yap a while 🙇 It's a very strange time to be a software designer: the mix of new capabilities + profound changes to every part of the workflow is all a bit overwhelming/confusing. I'm doing my best to stay open-minded+curious, study new tools and patterns every day, avoid tribalism about apps and models, and focus my attention on making the highest quality software possible. Hopefully this conversation is interesting/helpful to people...lmk if I'm wrong about things or if there are topics I should write more about!
Ridd 🤿@ridd_design

what are the best designers doing to wrangle AI? @brian_lovin is one of the people I study for inspiration 👇 So today's episode is a deep dive into how he’s iterating on his approach to both using AI tools as well as building AI tools at Notion youtube.com/watch?v=dvEwb1… There are a ton of practical workflow nuggets in this one: ✧ Why Brian has started using Cursor again ✧ Behind-the-scenes of Brian’s new side project ✧ Practical tips for prompting AI more effectively ✧ How to stay relevant as a designer in an AI world ✧ Why his first Notion design offsite was so impactful ✧ How Brian built Notion’s prototyping playground + a lot more

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Anton Osika
Anton Osika@antonosika·
@HarryStebbings Ilya has given up on predicting the future, since it is impossible, but it is clear to him that some hard problems – aligning AI – have to be solved if they are solved that will be valuable for all of us. so he is working on solving those problems.
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i still remember the first time i stepped into @NotionHQ's space, then the loft on Harrison. warm earthy colors, art on the floor, books everywhere, persian rugs and design chairs, jazz playing, and cool people walking around in Issey Miyake pants. now on Market, the team took that seed of cool and scaled it up to an entire building. so impressive! i think my favorite detail in the new office is the red window trims, contrasted against San Francisco's downtown—the Philean, the Palace sign, the Hobart building. @firstround and @akothari captured it well! lets just say, its a vibe!y
Josh Kopelman@joshk

Recently, @ivanhzhao put words to something we’ve long believed: "The most meaningful things were never built alone. It’s always groups of people, building and believing until something clicks." So much of that work happens when people are together in offices, where ideas are discussed and tugged at and strengthened when people gather around them. Space influences how people “think together.” Today, we’re excited to launch a new video series about the stories behind the physical spaces the best companies inhabit, and what those spaces reveal about how great work gets done. It feels especially fitting to begin with @NotionHQ. We began our partnership with the company long before they had an office, or even a product. Join @akothari as he gives us a tour of Notion’s SF office

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Josh Kopelman@joshk·
Recently, @ivanhzhao put words to something we’ve long believed: "The most meaningful things were never built alone. It’s always groups of people, building and believing until something clicks." So much of that work happens when people are together in offices, where ideas are discussed and tugged at and strengthened when people gather around them. Space influences how people “think together.” Today, we’re excited to launch a new video series about the stories behind the physical spaces the best companies inhabit, and what those spaces reveal about how great work gets done. It feels especially fitting to begin with @NotionHQ. We began our partnership with the company long before they had an office, or even a product. Join @akothari as he gives us a tour of Notion’s SF office
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Frank@frank_·
in your @NotionHQ, latent in the space between your notes, plans, and transcriptions, are your ideas. now imagine you could @claudeai and just start tinkering with them right there. that’s what we’re working on. not because building tools aren’t great — they really are. but because the gap between thinking and building is narrowing. we tinker to think, and think by tinkering. so, wouldn’t it be nice if you could tinker where you think? let us know if you want early access. the team is cracked. @geoffreylitt @EricTLiu @maryrosecook @varunrau and more.
Notion@NotionHQ

Introducing @claudeai agents in Notion. Your task board is Claude’s to-do list. @AnthropicAI runs the model and the agent harness. Notion is the orchestration layer: context, UI, and a shared place for teams to review and ship, and kick off Claude workflows. Join the waitlist: notion.com/partners/claude

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