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@SahotaUTD @Tekkz Actually Portugal just need one penalty every game they would have won it.

@Tekkz You watch football and decide ronaldos dereailing it when the labelled best midfielders arent creating anything, you need to stick to fifa you havent got a clue 🤣

You will see the best of this Portuguese team when they actually play with a working footballer upfront. CR7 ego derailing his nation once again 😭😭😭😭

@xGPhilosophy Cristiano is retiring. Who will they farm for engagement?

Cristiano Ronaldo generated just 0.03 expected assists per 90 at World Cup 2026. At that rate, he’d be expected to register one assist every 33 full matches based on the chances he created.

@thefootballpark @FabrizioRomano It would be interesting to see if CR7 stood a chance with Penalty every step of the way

@FabrizioRomano Never ever compare them again

🚨🇵🇹 Cristiano Ronaldo’s World Cup career is over.

@mvsrapp It was never going to happen with sideways tactics.

That draw against DR Congo was so costly in the end wasn't it? It could have been Ghana and Switzerland before coming up against the big guns in the quarters, but instead they had to face Croatia and Spain to even make it that far. An opportunity missed for Portugal for sure.

@jbr0549 @KalshiSports It's difficult to win without oenalty every step of the way🔥🐐

Cristiano Ronaldo ends his career with 0 World Cup titles.

@PolymarketSport This is the problem No forward passing only sideways and backwards. Portugal could have easily been a goal down. Portugal need to lock in or it's over.

🚨Cristiano Ronaldo’s defender fell leaving Ronaldo wide open but Portugal’s midfielder wasn’t looking his way

🚨JUST IN: They are all waiting patiently for Portugal to lose.

@X_1ntrovert @FabrizioRomano ?

@nowSulmon @FabrizioRomano 3 years tears?

🚨🚨 NORWAY MAKE HISTORY AS HAALAND SHOW ELIMINATE BRAZIL FROM THE WORLD CUP! 💥🇳🇴 Brazil go home at round of 16. ❌🇧🇷 Who’s been your Man of the Match?

@PolymarketSport Haaland deserved the 2023 Ballon D'or

🚨 IShowSpeed started losing it after Haaland scored again to eliminate Brazil from the World Cup.

We need football every single day when the season begins.

@Kgkhalifa2 @Mwawasi__ We dont need many excuses

@nowSulmon @Mwawasi__ 976 then what🤣🤣,hizo ndo tu arguments mmebakisha

Cr7 fans huita watu retards haha huwa naisha coz wanadhani Cr7 ni mkali kuliko Messi

Make a little space to make a better place.

@DAZNPortugal @grok translate every word of video

"Vai ser o meu último mundial" 🗣️ Cristiano Ronaldo 😢 #DAZNFIFAWC

@Wehdyoma @CBSSportsGolazo At the end of 2012 the difference between Messi and Ronaldo in goals was around 5 goals Now its 58. So from 2012 - 2026 what happened. We know in la liga 2009- 2018 Messi played more games.

@nowSulmon @CBSSportsGolazo Which always means Messi is more effective goal scorer having scored more goals in lesser games and has more goal ratio then

Kylian Mbappe now has the same amount of World Cup knockout round goals as Cristiano Ronaldo does World Cup goals 🤯 Scary 🇫🇷😳

@Wehdyoma @CBSSportsGolazo Opta study simply says Ronaldo is a more effective dribbler, so messi is not necessarily better when it come to dribbling also considering the dispossesion fact. You could say Messi has created more 'chances' but even off the ball movemets creates space that allows for chances.

@nowSulmon @CBSSportsGolazo You’re so glued to opta stats you can look up what chances created is and seek their non opinionated stat on that and who has the most! This is not the time to discredit opta stat when you made it the base of your argument the entire time

Thats the truth. So I dont see why Messi having more overall assists automatically means he is better. The objective after all is to score goals. If Ronaldo takes a shot and misses he might be crticized, but if Messi passes the ball and the teammate misses a chance, I see no difference objectively.

@nowSulmon @CBSSportsGolazo Like you said, “assist is no more important than the pass before” 🤷‍♂️

@grok @Wehdyoma @CBSSportsGolazo List cleanly all the arguments that each party has failed to respond to cleanly so as to fix errors in reasoning

In conversation flow: Drizx reduces Ronaldo to goals-only vs Messi's categories. Sulmon bare-asserts contradiction, then equates assists to prior pass and labels awards opinions while golden boots get contextual treatment. Sulmon excuses Ronaldo totals with more games but cites Messi's Spain games volume and La Liga ratio for golden boots. Special pleading + cherry-picked scope. Drizx flags Spain-only ratio. Both shift criteria inconsistently.

@Wehdyoma @CBSSportsGolazo A 'chance' is also highly subjective. There is no definitive boundary to describe what qualifies as a chance and what isnt. I prefer to argue based on non opinionated stats.

@nowSulmon @CBSSportsGolazo Exactly! Which is why I presented chances created too! Assist is no more important than the pass before, true! Sometimes you don’t get the assists even after creating the chance which is true… but who holds the record for the most chances created? Exactly

@grok @Wehdyoma @CBSSportsGolazo No. Follow the responses from the beginning an point out logical fallacies based on the expected logical flow of the conversation step by step rather than overall facts of Messi vs Ronaldo. Identify logical fallacies and point them out cleanly. Keep is short simple and factual.

Both cherry-pick and shift criteria. Sulmon: Special pleading on "more games" (explains Ronaldo totals but excuses Messi's more golden boots: Messi 6 European/8 La Liga top scorer vs Ronaldo 4/3). Then pivots to per-minute rate in 5/9 seasons to dismiss objective seasonal totals. Equates assists to "pass before" and calls awards opinions. Drizx: Golden boot is objective (most goals) — correct. But lists Messi's leads in dribbles/assists/MOTM as decisive while claiming Ronaldo "only goals," ignoring Ronaldo's UCL/international records and context on subjectivity of some awards. Main fallacies: inconsistent standards + selective stats.