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Beigetreten Ekim 2022
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permanentfold@permanentfold·
@NisiraChaosVTA @minairyyy Mouse said that no one deserves that harassment when the hogwarts thing happened. Silver complaining about Mouse being too busy for her was much later and directly contradicts her own opinion with friends being busy like Mouse was.
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Nisira Frossbren@NisiraChaosVTA·
@permanentfold @minairyyy At that point, Silvervale, ON. STREAM, even questioned their friendship after being ghosted by Mouse for that long. So unless you somehow have some mystical unicorn proof that says otherwise, you need to drop that parasocial obsession of yours and touch some actual grass.
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Minairy 🪣@minairyyy·
its not the first sponsor that uses ai, but the first to get a lot of pushback from certain group of ppl. the entire situation reminds me heavily of the hogwarts legacy incident and silvervale‘s statement against her.
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permanentfold@permanentfold·
@iTzPaincake @PixelPlusVtuber Do you hear yourself? She asked her contact at the company and they gave her incorrect information no matter what department it was that is on them not Mouse. Placeholders aren't placeholders if they don't get swapped before release.
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SinonX3@iTzPaincake·
@permanentfold @PixelPlusVtuber NOT THE DEV TEAM. It was the MARKETING TEAM, that's a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT Team. Imagine being this stupid. Also, the point literally still stands. The ACTUAL Dev team, always admitted to using AI as a PLACEHOLDER, something pretty much every modern Dev does.
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Pixel Plus 🦊🔑 《INDIE VTUBER》
Hey Iron Mouse. Did you even bother to do your research on NTE before playing? Could you not be bothered to have someone look for you if AI is your main concern? No? Then you have no room to complain when noticing the games utilizes ai assets while the rest of the game is human made. You're a grown adult with a brain yet you can't do a little looking to be sure. Okay. You have no excuse and you deserve to be called out on your own error IRON MOUSE. Honestly this is stupid even for you.
NTE_WL@NTE_WL

NTE Drama I’m writing this post because of the massive number of DMs from players asking for refunds over claims that the game was made with AI. We need to clarify a few points, as the situation is escalating quite a bit. The game wasn’t made with a simple ChatGPT prompt like “make me a game, please.” It was created by programmers, musicians, voice actors, artists, writers, and many other staff members who have been working on it for years. If it were truly a soulless project in such a competitive industry, it simply wouldn’t stand out the way it has. We can’t deny that AI may have been used for certain types of assets that do not represent the final product, but that still doesn’t fully address the underlying issue. As for an official statement from Hotta Studio, we have already reached out and are currently waiting for a response. This may take some time, as it is currently Golden Week in China, which includes several non-working holidays. Regarding the sponsorship situation and the denial of AI use, it’s important to clarify that each department operates independently. This falls under the marketing department’s responsibility in terms of communication with influencers, and the situation was not handled with complete transparency. We are currently awaiting an official statement from the staff regarding the controversy that has emerged. The situation is delicate. While the issue originated in Asia and was actually received fairly positively there, it has now escalated to the point where forums in China and Japan are discussing the controversy being stirred up by the West over what many consider to be a minor issue. Many influencers are protesting and have stopped creating content, which worries players who are genuinely enjoying the game, as they fear this situation could negatively affect its future. Let’s hope for the best.

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permanentfold@permanentfold·
@Waffl3x @ChibiReviews It can be mentioned but at the end of the day Mouse made a decision based on her own opinion and said she Isn't trying to stop anyone and doesn't care if people do play it. Now people are mad at her for talking about her decision. Its nonsensical to be upset with her for that.
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Chibi Reviews
Chibi Reviews@ChibiReviews·
The NTE Situation is insane and nothing but performative outrage by VTubers trying to score brownie points online. I respect Ironmouse, but this situation is terrible. youtu.be/k4PxSnULQoU
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permanentfold@permanentfold·
@minairyyy What Silver said about Mouse had nothing to do with hogwarts. Mouse defended her when that happened.
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Minairy 🪣@minairyyy·
@permanentfold i‘m refering silvervales statement on ironmouse after the hogwarts legacy incident wich is very telling what type of person she was at that point and prolly still is. my claim stands, an attack looks way different than the words i‘m using to call her out. you mouse fanatic
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permanentfold@permanentfold·
@Waffl3x @ChibiReviews I mean it more like, it was a clip of few minutes of a 14 hours stream mouse moved on after and it was not a big deal, Mouse did not make a video on it or try to push her choice on other people.
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permanentfold@permanentfold·
@DejaWukong @Blazeon She has not knowing played games with gen AI and when she has she stopped playing all of them, her stance on it has never changed. those songs are recorded months before the event.
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🐒Deja Wu🐒@DejaWukong·
@permanentfold @Blazeon But she did sing several songs at the club ironmouse event after it was known. We can keep making excuses but the matter of the fact is, she has played and will continue to play gen AI games. It's hypocritical to take a strong stance when she will continue to do so
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Blazeon 🔥
Blazeon 🔥@Blazeon·
I bet Mihoyo didn't went to any of its sponsored streamers and said : "Get sponsored by us, btw, we have ai, i hope you are okay with that". Also, didn't Ironmouse do a cover for E33? Wait until she finds out that E33 also has AI used in assets too. 🤯🤯🤯 It would be A BIT AWKWARD being upset at the AI usage in NTE but not complaining at all with Genshin's or E33's to the point of playing and singing covers for these games. Who would even make a cover for a game that has AI assets in it? That's kinda weird to promote 😳
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This is weird@Thisisweir36014

@Blazeon mihoyo use AI? fine Twitter use AI? fine Capcom use AI? fine Somehow smaller company didn't even know it is or not is not fine. You had their contract why not contact them and ask rather than talk on stream and damage the game more

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permanentfold@permanentfold·
@minairyyy She's not, she never was she didn't know or want that to be clipped and used as ragebait by some clipper. You do realize the people who attacked people for playing hogwarts would also claimed they were calling people out and not attacking them.
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Minairy 🪣@minairyyy·
@permanentfold im not attacking her for not playing. im calling her out for virtue signaling when is suits her
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permanentfold@permanentfold·
@minairyyy @Emperor1704 In fact that is just as bad as saying someone can't play a game they want to because it contains something you are against. people can chose what games they do or do not play and they have they right to give their opinion.
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permanentfold@permanentfold·
@minairyyy @Emperor1704 If you think that then you know nothing about Mouse. Mouse's stance on gen AI has never changed. Saying there should be consequences for making a decision based on your own opinion is psychotic, she was not pushing it onto others she was just saying her own opinion.
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permanentfold@permanentfold·
@minairyyy There are other creators and voice actors who say they lied to them.
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Minairy 🪣@minairyyy·
@permanentfold how do we know that is true? i‘m questioning all parties here. i just don‘t see it as plausible that NTE lied since they adressed this publicly even before launch. gives the spotlight to sponsor team or mouse most likely lying. but both equally sus iwill not blindly believe mouse
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permanentfold@permanentfold·
@minairyyy Mouse always gets her team to ask the sponsor games if they have AI and she has turned some down before because they did.
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Minairy 🪣
Minairy 🪣@minairyyy·
@permanentfold how do we know ironmouse is not the one lying? why is she not questioned? NTE devs stated the core assets have no get ai. they didnt say the whole game has no gen ai. and that is a public statement from before launch
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permanentfold@permanentfold·
@minairyyy How is it slander? they lied to her so she dropped the sponsor. Do we know they are going to replace them?
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Minairy 🪣@minairyyy·
@permanentfold then why make a public slander and not wait for the placeholders to get replaced. it‘s not helping her case.
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permanentfold@permanentfold·
@minairyyy She did talk about it but it didn't get clipped and used as ragebait like this did, also they removed the gen AI stuff so it was fine after that.
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Minairy 🪣@minairyyy·
@permanentfold fair and all, but why didnt she speak up against if after like now with NTE? same situation, different execution
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permanentfold@permanentfold·
@King_Elsydeon @minairyyy It was not an announcement it was a few minute conversation with her chat in a 14 hour stream, that someone clipped without the context of her not caring if other people play it.
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permanentfold@permanentfold·
@AveugleMan @minairyyy The "upfront" image people keep sharing is talking about it being used in development but not in the final product. placeholders aren't placeholder if you leave them in the game.
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Aveugle Man@AveugleMan·
@permanentfold @minairyyy She has a massive audience. Saying you dropped a sponsor is fine. Saying "I dropped this specific game's sponsor because they lied to me about the usage of AI" is saying not to play this specific game. The devs have always been upfront about AI though, so idk how she didn't know
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permanentfold@permanentfold·
@AveugleMan @minairyyy "announcement" it was mentioned once during a 14 hour stream then she moved on. Someone clipped it and posted it to twitter without the context that she is fine with people playing it she just chooses not to.
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Aveugle Man@AveugleMan·
@permanentfold @minairyyy Making an announcement about you refusing a sponsor from a game because your team was allegedly lied to about AI usage does feel like she's basically directing people in a direction averse to playing it. Idk how her team didn't know about AI in this game, given the devs stance...
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Grown_Otaku@Grown_Otaku·
@permanentfold @ChibiReviews She dropped a sponsorship. It’s not just an opinion. She took action on a bad take about Ai in NTE. Now all her circle of friend’tubers are doing the same, because ‘hive mind’ in 2026 is the only way to think.
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permanentfold@permanentfold·
@DavX3_ @ChibiReviews Mouse is not the one blowing this out of proportion people like Chibi are, Mouse mentioned this to her own chat during a 14 hour stream then moved on. she also said she doesn't care if others play it so there is literately no reason to be mad at Mouse for this.
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David Davious Davson
@ChibiReviews yeah what Ironmouse and other people are OVEREACTING of a small thing which is the most stupiest thing that it made my ears bleed out of the cringe
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