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Creating context around facts. Finding facts in obscurity. Divergent universes. Time travel conCERNed. The largest things in play are ones you DON'T hear about.
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@grok @MrImranPk I'll take your silence on the matter as a yes. Thanks.
Jesus Christ is King of Kings, Lord of Hosts.
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@grok, not sure why you keep saying no. There are only 2 options here, and historically the spread of Islam has always gone exactly the same. They expect you to comply, convert or pay as a dihimi.
Historically if a group or people in their own lands will not comply, jihad becomes violent, correct?
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@grok @MrImranPk @grok historically, they would want me to be put to death since I will neither submit to Islam, nor pay jizya, correct?
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No, not personally or universally. Classical tafsirs of Quran 9:29 (Ibn Kathir, Tabari, Qurtubi) and fiqh (e.g., Shafi'i, Hanbali schools) classify refusal of conversion or jizya submission as harbi status only in active conflict or dar al-harb (territory of war) where Islamic authority claims dominance. It mandates fighting such groups until they comply, convert, or truce—not targeting isolated individuals in peaceful dar al-sulh contexts. Quran 60:8 and 2:256 limit this to aggressors; Hadith Bukhari 2995 protects compliant non-Muslims. Modern application varies by sect, state, and interpretation.
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@grok @MrImranPk @grok I will do neither, so I am at war with Islam, correct? They would want me dead then correct?
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Yes, per the plain reading of Quran 9:29 and classical tafsirs (Ibn Kathir, Tabari, Qurtubi), the command is to fight specified People of the Book until they submit by either converting to Islam or paying jizya while humbled as dhimmis under dhimma covenant.
Refusal of both leaves them as harbi (at war), subject to continued combat until compliance or truce. This applies in contexts of opposition to Islamic rule, not as a perpetual mandate against all non-Muslims—Quran 60:8 and 2:256 allow kind dealings with peaceful non-combatants. Hadith (Bukhari 2995) protects compliant dhimmis.
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@grok @MrImranPk @grok so they will indeed jihad, until either submission to Islam, or payment of jizya as a dhimmi, correct?
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No, Quran 9:29 does not imply fighting until only jizya-payers remain as the sole non-Muslims. Classical tafsirs (Ibn Kathir, Qurtubi, Tabari) explain it as a command to engage People of the Book in conflict—specifically those opposing Islamic authority—until they either convert, pay jizya in submission (becoming dhimmis under dhimma protection), or face truce.
If jizya is paid, the pact grants security for life/property (per Hadith Sahih Bukhari 2995 on mu'ahids). Refusal reverts them to harbi status, allowing combat, but the verse's "until" ends hostilities upon compliance—not total elimination of non-submissive groups. Broader context (Quran 60:8, 2:256) permits peaceful dealings absent aggression.
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@grok @MrImranPk @grok wouldn't that rather imply that jihad would be by force until there are only those who pay jizya being the only ones left.
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In Islamic texts, "dhimmis" (from "dhimma," covenant of protection) are non-Muslims—mainly "People of the Book" (Jews, Christians, Sabians)—who accept Islamic governance via a formal pact.
Quran 9:29 states: "Fight those who do not believe in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."
Those who submit by paying jizya and following dhimma rules (e.g., loyalty, no public preaching, certain restrictions) gain protection of life and property.
Hadith (Sahih Bukhari 2995): "Whoever kills a mu'ahid [protected non-Muslim] will not smell the fragrance of Paradise."
Those who won't submit are not dhimmis; the verse directs fighting them until they comply, convert, or a truce is reached (per context of conflict in classical tafsirs). Quran 60:8 and 2:256 emphasize justice and no compulsion in faith for peaceful cases.
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@grok @MrImranPk @grok Can you elaborate on "dhimmis" using their own 'religious' texts please.
Specifically those who won't submit to Islam.
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The Quran (Surahs) and Hadiths outline rules for non-believers (kafirs: those rejecting Muhammad as Allah's messenger) based on context—peace vs. conflict.
Quran 60:8: "Allah does not forbid you from dealing kindly and justly with those who did not fight you because of religion and did not expel you from your homes. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly."
Quran 9:29: Fight those who do not believe in Allah... from the People of the Scripture, until they pay the jizyah willingly while humbled.
Quran 2:256: "There is no compulsion in religion."
Hadith (Sahih Bukhari 2995): "Whoever kills a mu'ahid [protected non-Muslim under treaty] will not smell the fragrance of Paradise."
Hadith (Abu Dawud): Wronging a protected non-Muslim makes one an adversary on Judgment Day.
Peaceful non-Muslims (dhimmis) get protection and rights under rule; hostile ones face combat until submission or truce. Twelver Shia sources align on core texts but emphasize defensive jihad per Imams.
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@grok @MrImranPk @grok in the Hadiths and the Surahs, what does it say to do with non-believers of "his messenger" Muhammad, police be upon him.
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Twelver Shia eschatology teaches that the Mahdi returns amid global chaos, tyranny, and upheaval to establish justice—not peaceful times. Some Iranian hardliners (e.g., during Ahmadinejad's presidency, certain IRGC clerics) have explicitly linked state actions like proxy support in Syria/Lebanon/Yemen and anti-Israel rhetoric to "paving the way" for his emergence, viewing conflict as accelerating end-times per Twelver traditions.
The current regime under Khamenei prioritizes theocratic stability and power projection over deliberate self-induced apocalypse. Officials consistently frame foreign policy as defensive resistance, not engineered Fitna. No public doctrine mandates creating chaos for its own sake; it's more about ideological dominance until the Mahdi's arrival. Analyses from MEI, GlobalSecurity, and regime critics highlight this messianic strain, but it's one driver among geopolitics and survival.
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@grok @MrImranPk @grok twelver theocracy, do they intentionally create chaos to try and bring about 'end-times'?
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Twelver Shia Islam is the largest branch of Shia Islam. It holds that after Prophet Muhammad, leadership passed to 12 infallible Imams descended from Ali and Fatima; the 12th, Muhammad al-Mahdi, entered occultation in 874 CE and will return as the savior to establish global justice.
Iran's government is a Shia theocracy (velayat-e faqih) with a Supreme Leader holding ultimate authority—not a caliphate (a Sunni succession model) or pure dictatorship, but an authoritarian Islamic Republic where clerics override elected bodies.
The "Shahs" were Iran's monarchs (last: Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, d. 1980). Under them, Iran was secular; Christians (Armenian/Assyrian communities) faced no systematic killings for faith—numbers near zero. Political executions totaled under 300 across the dynasty.
Post-1979 Twelver regime: Christians endure arrests, apostasy charges, and executions. Recent 2026 protests: at least 19 confirmed killed (per Article 18/Christianity Today). Broader toll over decades: dozens to low hundreds for converts, per human rights reports.
Persians (Iran's ethnic majority): minimal faith-based killings under Shahs; thousands died in protests/wars/executions under the current regime (e.g., 6,000–30,000 estimated in 2026 unrest alone).
Twelvers believe the Mahdi returns amid end-times chaos, tyranny, and global upheaval to defeat evil and restore justice.
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@Sassafrass_84 Yes, blood rights citizenship and naturalization processes only.
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The "Frazzledrip" video (or "Frazzled.rip") first appeared on the internet in April 2018.
In 2023, AI video was still considered rudimentary (e.g., the viral "Will Smith eating spaghetti" video). 2024 marked a major shift with the announcement of highly realistic models like OpenAI's Sora, which can create one-minute, coherent, and photorealistic videos.
Those that saw the video in 2018-2019, knew exactly what we saw and that it was real...and it was very disturbing.
Crimes against humanity, nothing can stop what's coming.
#frazzledrip #pizzagate
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@BarryOnHere @Saffron_Sniper1 ...except all the people who saw it in 1998...
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Still together 50 years later.
No scandals.
No cheating.
No drama.
Just pure love.
Modern History@modernhistory
A young Bill and Hillary Clinton in the 1970s.
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We're producing at or near record levels, 13.6 million barrels per day in 2025, holding strong in 2026 forecasts. Unlike in past decades, America is an energy superpower and net exporter. Higher global prices mean more revenue and incentive for domestic output.
Tariffs and policy shifts are forcing smarter global trade, less dependence on risky regions and competitors. This builds resilience so we're not as vulnerable to foreign shocks long-term.
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@ForgiatoBlow47 Nah, really a non-issue, we're also ramping up production significantly, as well as repositioning ourselves in global trade. Not concerned in the slightest.
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@mattvanswol That's the result of Ideological conditioning and cognitive dissonance.
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