are people still using debuggers? i just ask claude where the problem is…

@codevsdev debuggers show you the state. claude guesses it. there's a difference

@codevsdev rarely used it even before the claude

Oh for sure bro I was hella annoyed Wednesday that I had to attach to an IIS worker program because AI thought it could get by just recompiling a lower level dll and not the whole project. It was awesome watching the code work perfectly after all the necessary dlls were updated 🤓

@codevsdev I mean, I tell codex to run it and tail the logs for me while i repro. Or to throw in some signposts, run the profiler, and read me back the numbers

@codevsdev It would work but it does harm your cognitive abilities as you are not using them

@codevsdev Rarely but yes I have in the last few months...ubtangling almost code

@codevsdev what's a debugger? sounds like an ai tool

@codevsdev Ya lol but Claude still uses the debuggers😂

@codevsdev Tell claude to use the debugger and it'll actually decompile assembly and reproduce structs and arrays from raw memory.

@codevsdev You must be writing simple code. Let’s see if it can figure out why dns packets are being blocked on a tunnel using an ares dns resolver (rather than system dns) but work fine outside the tunnel. An issue we had today at work - Claude was utterly useless.

@codevsdev Have Claude use the debugger

@codevsdev It depends if you want a guess or reasoning.

@codevsdev we already know who will be replaced quickly.

@codevsdev works until the bug is in the 3 lines you didn't paste in. a breakpoint never confidently lies to you about where the problem is

@codevsdev claude

@codevsdev Use a debugger with Claude!

@codevsdev Depending on what you're trying to debug, you may not (environment, security, legal reasons). That said, single-step debugging a remotely deployed Kubernetes application routing through jump hosts is.... not that easy for a debugger OR Claude...

@codevsdev AI are the fastest debuggers.

@codevsdev you may tell claude to use the debugger itself, if you havent yet, but you surely need to operate ahead of the agent because they rarely take good decisions

@codevsdev Use both, Claude code for example can run a debugger for you.

@codevsdev I still do