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@Xx_Cronch_xX @LuthorSurpreme @DBconfessions45 Monika has 4th wall awareness. And whenever a character has it you know for a fact death battle never neglects it. Discord knew how Bill Cipher died in his show. And Deadpool stuff is obvious. It's not enough to make Monika win. But anything "meta" is fair game

@GroundBack01 @LuthorSurpreme @DBconfessions45 I know it's a bit ironic to say this considering the whole draw of the game, but isn't assuming something like that a bit too meta? besides, none of those things have undergone sufficient hardware changes to justify that she can now "comprehend modern code", nor would that help

“My top 20 matchups since they're a thing that people do except mine's horrible (also who i think wins)”

@Xx_Cronch_xX @LuthorSurpreme @DBconfessions45 Like... you literally see his files when Kinger accidentally deleted him. Lol

@GroundBack01 @LuthorSurpreme @DBconfessions45 Now does Monika have the means to do such a thing? is she native to the code of the digital circus to access this, can she reach the location she needs to to pull this off without being caught? Can we assume his code is ANYTHING like the .chr files?

@Xx_Cronch_xX @LuthorSurpreme @DBconfessions45 It's almost like Caine shouldn't be considered for a death battle until the show is over. Crazy, ik

@GroundBack01 @LuthorSurpreme @DBconfessions45 No more stable, but not suicidal, I wanted to dance around it but lets really face it, Caine's not gonna off himself. We don't even KNOW if he can abstract, and the humans have already been stated to have a form of immortality within the game.

@Xx_Cronch_xX @LuthorSurpreme @DBconfessions45 Death Battle uses "standard battle assumptions" so unless stated otherwise they'll always be in a neutral location

@GroundBack01 @LuthorSurpreme @DBconfessions45 NPCs do not have this same benefit, so let's see it from this angle: To make this matchup work, you either drop caine into ddlc, or monika into tadc, and whichever one you go with gives the other home field advantage and it becomes a stomp

@LuthorSurpreme @Xx_Cronch_xX @DBconfessions45 Monika and she doesn't need to physically type in order to code. So Caine can't kill or restrain her. She has all the time in the world to figure it out

@LuthorSurpreme @Xx_Cronch_xX @DBconfessions45 You keep making weird assumptions like that. First you said that Caine was more complex, now you're going the opposite direction and saying that he's on an older computer so Monika would struggle to navigate it. Not that it's even an issue given that deletion doesn't kill-

@Xx_Cronch_xX @LuthorSurpreme @DBconfessions45 Before Monika amplified their issues btw. Monika could survive Caine deleting her. And Caine doesn't seem to have any firewalls to protect his code. So I don't see why Monika wouldn't be able to prey upon his insecurities given all the time she'll have to do it

@Xx_Cronch_xX @LuthorSurpreme @DBconfessions45 Caine doesn't fight either? His best feats or bullying humans and NPCs who are totally defenseless against him. And let's not act like Caine himself wasn't close to abstracting. He's more complex, but no more stable than sayori or other NPCs. Who were just basically normal(ish)-

@LuthorSurpreme @Xx_Cronch_xX @DBconfessions45 We literally see caines code when kinger tried to pacify him. He might not be a NPC, but he has all the tools Monika is familiar with to manipulate him

@GroundBack01 @Xx_Cronch_xX @DBconfessions45 Monika could only mess up the npc in her game because she messed with their character information, there is nothing indicating that Caine has that, and it’s highly unlikely considering that he is an complex ai

@Lord_Fr1eza @LuthorSurpreme @DBconfessions45 Not really. Monika WAS deleted and could still delete sayori and the game afterwards. Caine deleting Monika wouldn't get rid of her. And that's the main wincon for her

@GroundBack01 @LuthorSurpreme @DBconfessions45 Except Caine created the circus and every world they have adventures in, and the same snap that got rid of gummigoo could wipe all of it clean if he ever wanted to. Atp, its really just a classic western showdown of who deletes the other first.

@Xx_Cronch_xX @LuthorSurpreme @DBconfessions45 As far as I know, they didn't add any updates that stops the game from adding new files or learning your steam name? Regardless, the main point is that calling ddlc a low Sim or Monika a mid hacker don't add much to the debate

@GroundBack01 @LuthorSurpreme @DBconfessions45 Sorry, was there something new DDLC related? Or are you saying that if you were to play DDLC today, it would still do that?

@LuthorSurpreme @DBconfessions45 Low simulation is a meaningless statement when comparing it to other verses. The circus was invented in the 1990s. Ddlc came out in the late 2010s, and likes to flex how it can mess with the files in your modern computer without your knowledge. Statements are meaninglessness

@LuthorSurpreme @DBconfessions45 Kinger literally wasn't the main programmer. That was Scratch. And everyone struggled to be on his level as stated in the last episode. So if Kinger can accidentally do it, someone who has experience intentionally deleting files should have no problem. And calling DDLC-

@Xx_Cronch_xX @LuthorSurpreme @DBconfessions45 Already delete other characters and destroy the game. Caine can't even permanently destroy abstractions. The best he can do it put them in a random room and try to forget about them. Also, DDLC sends files to your own computer in the big 2026. She can infect the circus

@Xx_Cronch_xX @LuthorSurpreme @DBconfessions45 Let's not act like Caine exactly has mental stability. Even if Monika has only used it on NPCs, I don't see why her mind manipulation wouldn't effect the guy who's weakness is basic insults. Her calling herself a mid hacker is a meaningless statement when she can-

@LuthorSurpreme @DBconfessions45 She can exist in a state of non existence. Caine consuming her wouldn't kill her or force her to be a bubble or sidekick

@LuthorSurpreme @DBconfessions45 Monika casually killed Sayori after she became the new president (and therefore has all the power). Just kinger alone could accidentally delete Caine. And Monika is an expert hacker. Monika can actually destroy her game while Caine hasn't been able to prove that yet. And again-

@DBconfessions45 How the hell does Mew beat Kirby

@LuthorSurpreme @DBconfessions45 Monika can survive in an existence after getting deleted. What is Caine's wincon

@DBconfessions45 Another canines Monika truther, Caine wins though

@Strwberrychrori I wish it was... 😭

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