So I watched Obsession a second time, and I’ve come to the conclusion that Bear almost certainly knew the wish worked after the dinner scene. So… yeah, that was definitely rape.
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underfan15
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It was NEVER going to get a happy ending and I cannot believe how many people never caught that.
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Am I really the only one who saw #Euphoria for what it was? It’s not a show about giving hope to addicts, it’s literally always been a show about abuse. Point blank. People who abuse sex, drugs, and their loved ones, and how dark and horrible shit can really get.
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I seriously hate this take so much.
The movie itself was not an allegory for BPD, but Nikki was SO CLEARLY BPD-coded (speaking as someone who has BPD).
Shelby Ratliff@sunnycastformxx
this is fucking horrifying wow do not speak on BPD again, because this is such a damaging way to speak about it also, btw, Nikki wasn't the fucking problem, this wasn't an allegory for BPD it was about loss of agency and consent like holy fucka
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@mordecaiwright I’ll say what I’ve been saying: the movie is not about Nicky having BPD, but, whether intentional or not, she is absolutely BPD- coded
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@jeremyoharris It’s not *about* having a BPD girlfriend, but Wish Nicky is absolutely BPD coded af
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Ppl internalizing the film as ABOUT having a BPD girlfriend is really frightening and bizarre bc it allows the young men who are watching it to ignore the fact that they are watching a r*pe and humiliation movie.
My theater had teen boys in it who all saw her as the monster.
arielle da 4’9”@ariellenyc
I saw myself in 'Obsession' For years, I had undiagnosed and untreated BPD. To my partners, I was a monster. Read now: ariellelana.substack.com/p/i-saw-myself…
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@whimpermanence I’ll grant that it being “good” is subjective, but if you don’t see how this movie was pretty feminist, you must have been watching it with your eyes closed
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I genuinely think a lot of people went into this movie thinking it was like a slasher about a psychotic girlfriend who goes on a killing spree and not a psychological thriller about a girl who loses her autonomy to a guy who wants to fuck her
Marcus isham@Marcusisham97
@Ramina1690 Right don’t see what the hype is about its slow nothing happens till the last 25 to 20 minutes the movie was ok
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@urbanmyths @USummonings @targjinx And he chickens out. He was trying to make himself puke at the exact moment that Wish Nicky makes her own wish. If she had done it just a min sooner or later, they’d have both been trapped and probably died of dehydration, exhaustion, or starvation while having never-ended sex
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Any sympathy for Bear ends at the party when Nikki is hitting herself in the head with a block and bleeding all over the place. And what does Bear do? He just sits there. His best friend Ian is screaming for him to get up and calling him an asshole.
And after Sarah is killed right in front of him, what does he do? He helps Nikki dispose of the body. Bear doesn't have a spine or a moral compass. Only in the end when it's too painful for him does he do the right thing.
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I just finished Obsession and I walked out of the theater feeling so bad for Nikki. Like I actually teared up when she came back to herself and was crying at the end. Bear deserves the absolute worst. The way he was wondering what was so bad about being with him when she asked-
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@leni_kotik @AbramvNik That’s what people I think are getting wrong. It’s not a demon or entity, I believe the wish essentially created a new “consciousness” or personality. Less possession, more “Jekyl and Hyde”
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@AbramvNik Допустим сцена, где он вылазит из кровати, пытаясь не разбудить её. Тело спит, голос говорит - убей меня, не буди её
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На самом деле самым страшным в Обсессии была постельная сцена, которая по сути являлась насилием. Этот пустой взгляд принадлежал Никки, а голос – той одержимой сущности. Ужасно.
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@culkinco I’m convinced that the people hating on Obsession somehow got the wrong idea and thought this movie was about a psycho girlfriend who goes on a killing spree and not a deeply psychology horror about a woman who loses her own autonomy.
Which tbf, I blame that on the trailer
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the freaks on horror twt just get on here and lie to us all day long I'm so fucking tired man
suka@culkinco
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@BakerOfScones @iycrtylph You just described what it’s like to be with someone who has BPD, and literally everyone who either has BPD or has been with someone who has BPD, will tell you Nicky was BPD-coded af. This movie is practically “BPD: a horror movie”
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@iycrtylph I agree and also felt like there was no narrative reason a lot of things happened. Nikki’s outbursts never felt like they were the narratively justified result of the obsession, but were instead impulsive unhinged moments with no particular explanation
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@witchfingersss @punishednuz I’m genuinely not trying to be a contrarian or anything like that, I just don’t think it’s fair to automatically accuse a guy of actually raping a woman if he didn’t actually realize there was no consent, which is a legit possibility in certain cases
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@pakson2012 @punishednuz I see you pointing out fringe cases here, which may occasionally be applicable. But I’m telling you the definition and what people who don’t want to be called rapists should avoid getting into situations of the sort!!! Thank you for keeping an open mind and a learning mentality:)
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in hindsight it's cool that they spammed this moment in marketing as a "whoa she's so crazyyy" hook but in the film, the most shocking part of this scene is right after when nikki outright asks bear if her lie is gonna be a problem for him and he says NO
Carnival of Horror@HorrorCarnival
Obsession (2026) What makes the scene so unsettling is that it’s the first time Bear questions the fantasy version of Nikki created by the wish. The moment he doubts her story, her behavior unravels — and many viewers see it as the point where the film shifts into full psychological horror.
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Obsession works a lot better when you see it as less “demon/entity possession” and more a “Jekyll and Hyde” situation
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@voutarde @monolilium For the record, I don’t think it’s a “demon” per se, as much as a whole new “person” created by the wish, like a split psyche, whose entire purpose in existence is to love Bear more than anything in the whole world.
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@monolilium that's supposed to be a demon trying to act like a jealous pick me girlfriend so shes kinda figuring it out still
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am i crazy or is this acting really bad
Carnival of Horror@HorrorCarnival
Obsession (2026) What makes the scene so unsettling is that it’s the first time Bear questions the fantasy version of Nikki created by the wish. The moment he doubts her story, her behavior unravels — and many viewers see it as the point where the film shifts into full psychological horror.
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@stanningcarys @punishednuz There’s an interview with the actress when she compared her acting choices to a character being rendered in a video game. Bear could hear her, so the moans were for his enjoyment, but he didn’t look at her, so showing any facial enjoyment wasn’t needed unless he looked at her
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@pakson2012 @punishednuz the fact that she literally looks like a corpse while they’re having sex was a really nice detail. like she looks dead and limp and just thousand yard stares into the distance
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“Zoomer-friendly clothed sex scenes”?
Is that actually a thing?
Ngl as a millennial I straight up didn’t really care that the sex scene was clothed… because why would I? This is supposed to be a horror movie, not a porno.
Vincent Gallo Respecter@GalloRespecter
>Smile, Hereditary, Oz Perkins homages >zoomer-friendly clothed sex scenes, nudity for scares only >TikTok composition and shallow focus >screaming and LOUD music cues >spooky standing and monologuing in shadow so you can't see actress's performance >dumb gore One of the least professional productions I've seen on the big screen. Packed Regal theater laughed and squirmed throughout. It's over.
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@ChapinDomino @rlawrence1515 I’m aware, as I explained earlier, I was being over the top and facetious to make a point.
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@pakson2012 @rlawrence1515 I'd also add "But she reached climax" is a line with a long history as rape apologia.
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yes! just because he doesn’t realize what he’s doing doesn’t mean that she doesn’t know she doesn’t want to have sex. she is still being raped, i genuinely can’t believe you don’t understand that. it’s her consent that determines rape, not a man’s opinion of his own actions.
underfan15@pakson2012
@ChapinDomino @Poisonoushobo @bakedndtoasted @punishednuz Maybe I’m just being obtuse (am I using that word right?), but is it really possible to rape someone without realizing that said person is being somehow forced to have sex with you? I 100% agree that it treads the SA line, I just don’t know that I agree that it’s actually rape
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@ChapinDomino @rlawrence1515 If a 3rd party drugs her, then no, she’s not consenting. If he has sex with her and isn’t aware that she’s drugged or can’t consent, you can’t say that HE’s raping her. That’s literally my entire point. Depending on circumstance, even if she’s not consenting, he’s not raping her
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@pakson2012 @rlawrence1515 If a third party drugs someone with something that makes them act the way you described, then it is fair to describe a sexual encounter as rape. The person they actually had sex with not knowing they were drugged is mitigating to how we view them, but it doesn't make it not rape.
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@rlawrence1515 Clearly you didn’t realize I was being facetious on purpose to make a point. Humans are complex, & human psychology and sexuality are highly complex topics so the idea that a man will always know 100% whether or not a woman is 100% consenting is intellectually dishonest at best
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@pakson2012 i’m scared for any woman you’re with if you think the situation you described would literally ever happen and what you said is so problematic from so many standpoints idek where to start. please read educational sources about consent and rape you clearly need more detailed info
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