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@ZeddyHS he absolutely is terrible, 3 mana for a 3/1 stealth when rogue has a core 3/1 stealth for 1 mana. it's a joke. either make him 2 mana 2/1 like the warlock one or 3/1 with a rush like the dh one.

I think we all deserve to give this guy an apology. Turns out he's pretty good after all.

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@J_Alexander_HS Well you didn't clarify it here exactly but i think everybody knows that's the whole reason why you are so restless about the card leaving core.

@Dat_Boe When did I say rogue will be bad?

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@J_Alexander_HS if that's all you understood then perhaps it's not lack of vision or lack of honesty but both.

@Dat_Boe As the conversation becomes more honest we are rapidly approaching point five

Remember that thing I keep saying about them being retarded?

@J_Alexander_HS You're right, i don't. the point was there's more that hate it than enjoy it, and that's easily measurable. And about the complainers, you're right. There's people who will complain about anything and everything which is why it's important to notice if they are reasonable or not.

@Dat_Boe I don’t think you really do care about the people who enjoy the card, or account for the number of them accurately, or understand that the complainers will almost certainly simply move onto to complaining about what they see next without having more fun.

@J_Alexander_HS i would rather take away the fun for 5 people if that results in double the amount of people enjoying the game. Why? because adding a card that is only entertaining for a small group of people is how you keep your game small.

@Dat_Boe Of course. I like playing the card. So did lots of other people. It wasn’t a balance issue. So don’t take away our fun. And if I have fun things I can do, I’m happy for other people to get to have that same privilege. This is the grace I described above.

@J_Alexander_HS Now that, can be easily said for you aswell. My most played class is Rogue, so don't try to put me in the ''oh hes a control guy'' bucket. I enjoy Rogue, and because i have played so much of it i understand the potential of that card being a very toxic one.

@Dat_Boe It really is that simple. People just don’t like acknowledging it because it makes the complaints seem selfish. Which is why seeing people enjoying the card and it not being a balance issue run right off you. You dislike it and want it gone and to hell with those who enjoy it

@J_Alexander_HS If you do not understand how much of a problematic that card could be in the future then there's only 2 reasons. Lack of vision or Lack of honesty.

@Dat_Boe People like playing cards that work. People dislike playing against cards that work. Since we are our opponents opponent, sometimes we need to extend them grace to do things they like so we get to do what we like. I’m sure you like doing things your opponent may not enjoy

@J_Alexander_HS ''It’s a card people enjoyed playing'' You can say that for every single card ever created that was notoriously hated. Just because you enjoy Ice cream doesn't mean its good for you. And in this case, just because it's fun for some, doesn't mean its good for the game.

@Dat_Boe Correct. It’s a card people enjoyed playing that was not a power concern from any data I’ve ever seen. Every card needs to do worthwhile things to see play. This was a good card. Just not a problem card.