The Rizz Report

Chads passing looks off as "game"? Outdated advice from "gurus" who haven't closed in hot girl in the post-covid era? AI-generated pick-up thread slop? If you're tired of crappy dating advice, you've come to the right place. 10 threads to help you level up your game🧵:

How to stop getting friend zoned: The reason conversations go stale is because there is no opposition. Every storyline contains a villain, a problem, or a challenge - all synonyms for some sort of opposition. Stories would be boring otherwise. Dating conversations follow the same premise. If too much of it is rapport and comfort the conversation loses its spark. Staged or not, this video demonstrate examples of tension mechanisms. Throughout the vid they are competing against each other. “Or are you going to do something about it” - challenging “You have sunglasses on and it’s not sunny outside” - judging “At least I don’t look like a nerd” - teasing This type of energy is what rocks the boat and creates the chemistry girls talk about. Challenging, teasing, judging - when done in calibration is what makes her feel tension, This is the thing that differentiates you from being another nice guy.

@tyr0nelite She didn't know if it was a drive by compliment until he asked for her name

@TheRizzReport she immediately wanted to leave after saying thank you

What happens with too much teasing: This is an instance of power gaming. It is a double edged sword and cuts you if uncontrolled. The presence can be helpful to establish frame but too much comes across super tense, try-hard and you burn the set. The interaction was going fine already with normal get to know you conversation. She wasn’t testing him, wasn’t bratty, sarcastic or bored. Shoulders were square, strong eye contact, smiling, playing with hair and even asking him questions back. Sincerity, earnestness, contribution are metrics to gauge her level of buy-in to you. In terms of his value, he was good enough for the interaction. Not to mention she is more of the comfort type. A little tease here and there is still good but it doesn’t move the needle as much when value is already set. Diminishing returns. In scenarios where the girl is already accepting your frame, it’s a higher ROI to strengthen comfort and connection and even escalating on the romantic front. The girl was actually trying to connect more if you’ll notice, but he kept transforming it into a spike, shooting himself in the foot. The interaction started going downhill at the NYU thread, surprisingly she was ok with the skin tone comment lol.

The question posed was neutral - she was trying to get to know him more.

But he took it as disqualification. (Sign of insecurity)

Which, even if it was, he still mishandled it and came across upset.

Obsessed over that thread, judging, self-qualifying “You got to respect the mustache”

He probably thought he was “teasing” but when the thread is harped on multiple times, especially under circumstances where it’s not warranted - the meaning transforms from fun to reactive.

She starts looking around, disengaging.

Feeling judged, she qualifies herself “I just moved here” and then exits. Problem with power gamers is the over-prioritization and tunnel vision on the high ground. 
It is good to be aware of the power dynamics, but when interpretation is skewed it comes across emotionally fragile.

@KingWarthog go talk to congress

@TheRizzReport Secretly recording people and putting it on the internet wituour blocking their faces and voices should end with life in prison.

@yodachadsupmax9 I would think so too if I was low IQ

@TheRizzReport yes, it's also alpha to say that your account is retarded

@yodachadsupmax9 So alpha

@TheRizzReport "dating intel" is just a glorified way to say you're a simp. a woman interested in you will just be open and stay open and forgive you any amounts of mistakes

@yodachadsupmax9 Omg so alpha

@TheRizzReport no one care what women think

@CoffeeDaygame What’s wrong is thinking that the only teaching value of this clip is addressing the friends disapproval

@TheRizzReport Because analyzing this set not from the viewpoint of the friend (red) is totally wrong. Everything he did is irrelevant in respect to the short girl. It might as well be air. You skipped that part

This interaction is much more balanced in position compared to the previous breakdown: The opener starts with a tease “You making sure you guys got good angles?” - he’s exaggerating her out to be obsessive + silly. Very good opener - relevant + puts you higher position conversationally - you are lightly judging from above, and not validating. She laughs. Good place to start at. Neutral question afterwards, “Was it pictures or video?” Continuing the convo but it is close ended + doesn’t really add fire power. Which closes that thread. The next thread is about their plans - cool spots, what they’re about to do. There are some disadvantages to this thread, but in terms of value positioning, he has things in his favor: 1 - Leading the interaction with line of questioning. He’s actually the one that’s evaluating and learning about the girls. “What do you guys like to do? Sip drinks or dance?” “What’s your go to spot?” Frames him as the person who has higher authority/expertise - they are the ones explaining themselves 2 - Playfully disapproving Furthers the positioning with a light call out: “Ah that’s not super new you guys are just homebodies” This is a push. Judgement and authority. But at the same time notice that she actually laughs too. Sometimes you’ll push and it ends up being a magnet back to you. So overall, position is good. But there was still money left on the table: 1 - There wasn’t a strong man to woman flirting dynamic. He had a one liner about catching his attention. But other than that it was mostly platonic. 2 - didn’t break past being strangers. The interaction makes it like he’s a stranger giving them recommendations. There’s not actually a vibe where they’re on a personal basis. Things that could have helped: Tie things back to the actual girl: Make the topics about her - where she’s from, her tendencies, her personality Too much of the threads was about non-personal tour guide stuff. Traditional advice frowns on regular questions, But they actually help when done right. when balanced with teasing + qualifications + fun “Where are you from?” “Oh so that’s where that low-key sass comes from” “You more of a going out type of a girlie, or a chill indoor vibe?” “Omg are you the type to play monopoly until midnight” “Ahh we’re like opposites then” “What’s fun about that for you?” By talking about her specifically, Her personality, her background, etc The conversation vibe evolves into something more personal.

@CoffeeDaygame Value fluctuation can occur in other ways aside from needing to tease

@TheRizzReport I explained it: "or if you want to be lenient, he didn't add anything in emotional spikes" Practically what he did is the same as running up and asking for a number from the get-go. No value fluctuation while in set.

This is how to compliment without simping. And why all the traditional never-validate advice is incomplete. Notice how there’s really zero repression, he’s very liberal with complimenting. “You are so cute” “I’m so serious” “You have such a cool look to you” If he feels like saying it, he says it. And he doesn’t come across like a fan at all.

Reason why is because of the back and forth energy balance. Yes he compliments and validates, but he also takes away validation too. By: Giving her shit - “Yes you, not the person behind you” “I love how you’re so taken aback, as if this is not happening to you all day” By evaluating her - “… all black, I had to come see what’s happening” His entire demeanor throughout the interaction is a give and take. And so no matter how much he compliments, The balance remains even as he equally breaks rapport just as much if not more. “You speak good English right?” “Omg you’re unbelievable” “You’re kidding” Interrupting her and changing threads, Leading the conversation. What’s being communicated is: “Yes I am interested but I’m not a pushover” The interest comes not from pedeatalization but from expressing purely what’s on his mind. Both the positive and the negative. And that’s what works.

@CoffeeDaygame It’d be nice if you actually read the post first so there isn’t redundancy and realize that there is such a thing as bite sized lessons

@TheRizzReport This is wrong in so many technical points. The short one hooked by herself, but the conversation, again, remains impersonal and flat. Worst of all... is the friend. This is such a bad mishandling of the obstacle (who gives him bad non-verbals), that she will burn the set.

@CoffeeDaygame Is teasing your main metric of a good set? What’s the emotional purpose of a tease?

@TheRizzReport Mate, this is shit Game. He rushed too much, changed topics too much and missed multiple opportunities for teasing (or if you want to be lenient, he did add anything in emotional spikes). It is passable to get a girl that likes him, but up to there.

@AlexiusKomnenus Frame isn’t created through tone alone btw

@TheRizzReport I first read the post and was expecting to see a really good alpha , assertive, calm vibe. I open the video I listen a very soft, timid and seeking rapport tonality. This girl is just happy someone approached her, 100% flake

@SoloDaygame Better to come across more bold and calibrate after the fact than too meek and fight an uphill battle

@TheRizzReport He rushed at the beginning though, like he was about to rob her. That would’ve scared the hell out of most chicks.

These clips are actually about frame. The fumble happens not because of the initial statements but because of the subsequent reactions. Initial clip: “Were you like a ring girl?” That line is not the best, not the worst. But it becomes worse because of the apology. He’s taking the burden of the thread which is a lower position act. You don’t have to. “I was actually teaching kids” Play dumb “Oh what? Teaching kids to be a ring girl?” Double down “MMA missed an opportunity” Or just move on. There’s zero need to apologize. Second clip: “I’m very vanilla” “Other people have more segs exp than me” Again, not a “cool line” but there’s nothing wrong with it. What matters more is the reaction/opinion to it. The framing could be good or bad. “I’m intimidated” - the way he’s accepting about it is actually ok. But what’s disadvantageous is the internal shame, inferiority - the negative framing around it. It is saying “I am lesser because of my missing experience” Vanilla doesn’t have to be bad. “I like being more selective with who I’m with” Joke about it - “I wanted to avoid all the nasty girl cooties in my 20s lol” Now the message becomes “I’m better because of it” Third clip: “Should we just “ and implying they kiss. This is a great mini-escalation - goofy + a tinge of possibility. Emotionally spiked and she laughs, it’s such a great moment but, He then apologizes, laughs, which is admitting fault and running from tension. And by doing so, loses his positioning. And then awkward hug at the end which is easily fixable. But all to say There’s a lot of competence here. He can make girls laugh, is low-ego, expressive Signs of social familiarity and confidence within a normal context. His normal conversation material isn’t terrible, the thing that dims his light is improper framing. If he just fixed framing, and his relationship to tension, his ability to attract would go from zero to hero quick. Social acuity in other areas is already great. If you guys have more texts or interactions you want to breakdown, lmk

@RafaelEnder Why do you think its demeaning?

@TheRizzReport So... its not the evaluation persay, rather its one metric for value. Would it then follow that since evaluation is demeaning to her, that there are better ways for him to signal value?

@RafaelEnder Women like being evaluated because it means the guy isn’t simping over her, and likely has value, compared to if he only compliments + is agreeable.

@TheRizzReport Thank you for your detailed answer and perspective. I'm curious, it looks like you switched the frame. I asked why women like being evaluated (objectified). You replied that women like an evaluator (objectifier). Would you like to elaborate?

Evaluations signal value. Beggars can't be choosers so the fact that you are choosing means not a beggar. Indirectly also shows boundaries, outcome independence, confidence in your own skin and all that good stuff. Not all evaluations are the same. And not all situations are appropriate for evaluations.

@TheRizzReport Why do women like being evaluated? Are all types evaltuations the same?

@Man41Lucky 🙏🤝

@TheRizzReport Long time no see

One of the easiest mistakes to make is over-validation. Easy slip up b/c over-validation can occur without over-the-top statements: Even though there wasn’t a “Omg you’re so beautiful” - in its place were subtle but stacked validation statements. Starting off with - “Hey I like the color combo” - this is actually a great opener imo, but nonetheless still a little validating. Which isn’t bad on its own, but becomes a disadvantage when stacked: “I like the color combo” “That’s a good answer” “I like it” “You guys have a good vibe” “You caught my attention” Most of the thread is validation. Again, there isn’t a giant simp moment, And this guy has an overall good leading vibe, But altogether, stacked statements create death by a thousand cuts. If the girl already likes you and reciprocates, the playing field can still be even. But in cases where the girl is a maybe, over-validation comes across like you’re too easy. In this case, the situation gets more imbalanced b/c he asks for the name and the number right afterwards, which are both expressions of interest too. So altogether - he went validation, then neutral regular questions, then more validation, then expressions of interest. Combining everything - it comes across over-eager. Positionally - she’s in higher demand than him. Which is a large reason why she tried to drink mooch. What would have helped? Not escalating on moments of low-investment, But also and more importantly balancing out the pulls with pushes. Like when she said nowhere was the best, “So you just chose all bad spots? haha off your A game?” Can Observe + judge “Omg hoop earrings, Oh man I heard that meant toxiiiiccc” “Are you toxic or good?” “I don’t believe you” Could be completely illogical too. “What made you wear red? Is that your favorite color?” “Red means you like the center of attention though huh? *eye roll + smile* omg diva over here” Point being - moments of distance helps. It’s pushing away interest and validation to add balance. “Does he like me? Does he not like me?” - that’s a more attractive dynamic, especially if the girl is not won over yet.