@sanguineblood You're so close to understanding what intersectionality is.
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wicky
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@WickedStag
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( ❛ ꒳ ❛ ) Bergabung Mayıs 2021
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@WickedStag The circumstance of trans people and relative privilge and marginalisation
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Now I know your ass is white as hell and on average white queer women earn 96¢ compared to black queer women who earn 85¢. Altogether trans men & women of color make less than white trans men & women. Trans men are not up there with cis men & you're being willfully stupid.
mythical goon@67erpMemequeen
@_superswanky_ @voidpires No, no, no you don't get to pull this shit. Not in general. Trans men make 70 cents, whereas trans women make the lowest at 60 cents. That's 15 whole percent less
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@NightPunks Didn't even know and understand entirely what trans was until I was 22. Finally got top surgery at 33. Clearly I'm a poster child of cis male privilege lmao
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@WickedStag man i love being seen as a cïs man with my boobs and uterus and vagina and lack of access to certain avenues of gender affirming care or reproductive care
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I'm transitioning to be comfortable in my body, not society. and the moment y'all find out the extent of what that medical transition is y'all say I'm a woman or cissexual or some bullshit. People that do not pass as cis men do not have cis privilege. Tf are you smoking?
Tix@tixkerou
@chaos_gremlin89 transitioning to being a man means you think being a man is better, and male privilege doesn't necessarily require cis-passing. you may not choose dysphoria but you do choose if you're gonna criticize it for what it is (misogyny) or mindlessly accept it and act on it
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@sanguineblood You're doing a lot to pretend she was not making a blanket statement from a white perspective. We've already established tmoc do not have privilege over wtw. So arguing it's fair to say all trans men benefit over all trans women is just inaccurate, harmful, & unproductive.
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@WickedStag Same way that this is true in any minority sexual or racial, the men have privilge. Not "white male privilge" or "straight male privilge" but male one, which we see in the data as true
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@sanguineblood What is "this circumstance"??? She hasn't made any specific circumstance clear. She's making a generalization.
So is the difference of 30 cents when the average trans man makes only 70 cents to the dollar. Put 10 cents extra gas in your car & tell me how much father it gets you
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@WickedStag Nobody is saying "cis male privelge" but trans men do in this circumstance have a priliged position towards teans women
Also the trans numbers are the lowest down, trans women makw the least
10 cents on a dollar is also a lot of money.
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@gambitbussie "can you back up your claim?"
"this is an attack on me personally"
lmao
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... Trans spaces are not the majority of the real world. That's a safety bubble. It's good to have but it's not a good rep of how the real world is to trans people.
How tf are we considering this a good argument when most of us don't have access to a trans space?
This is goofy.
sam Ismay@samusmule
@reyphorian within TRANS SPACES, was my argument, trans men solely interacting with trans women in a trans space have male privilege over trans women. The race thing is also correct yes 100% race holds sooooo much power in trans spaces but two things can be correct at the same time.
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@sanguineblood scroll further down and see how being a trans person of color creates an even bigger disparity. 10 whole fucking cents and that's proof we have cis male privilege? fucking please.
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@WickedStag Like come on
Trans women are
The lowest, we make the least out of any queer group
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"I never see anything about white trans men🤔" that's because none of you listen to or actually pay attention to trans men
bone spear@SeaFloorCaverns
I've read the phrase "white trans women" like 30000 times today because the blue lady logged back on. It's kind of interesting that you never ever see the phrase "white trans man"
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Multiple white trans women on here have used the term "shrieking" when referring to trans men voicing complaints.
Like that isn't the word used by misogynists against "annoying" women (women complaining about misogyny) come on. I wasnt born yesterday lol.
ghost ⚧️@xenomorphporn
dont worry these insane women desperate for attention and taking up too much space want to be men anyway so you don't really need to alter the whole "you're crazy and Overreacting and too centered on feelings" routine. it's just fine now
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@allijnera You're literally inventing a different argument than what she was making.
She's arguing that trans men have cis male privilege. I'm allowed to call that bullshit out. If you think that's a threat, that's your own problem.
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@WickedStag "trans women have to deal with transmisogyny? well have you considered trans men are trans?"
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This is a very white trans take and I'm simply convinced at this point that white trans women with this attitude must feel threatened at the idea of sharing space with trans men/mascs because they feel they are losing intracommunity social status as ✨ the most oppressed ✨
soph@sophistsdismay
a lot of yall need to realize that, in the same way that trans women are women before they are trans, trans men are men. every time i read a post that positions trans men as a particularly marginalized group among the trans community i want to tear my hair out.
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@allijnera Trans men not being direct targets of transmisogyny does not mean society views and treats us like cis men. You're still operating under a very strict and harmful understanding of oppression.
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@WickedStag please reread. she said "a PARTICULARLY MARGINALIZED group among the trans community" which is not the case. that IS the case when it comes to trans women as transmisogyny is a separate and additional issue
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@gambitbussie Going in circles with her is exhausting. Sure, some trans guy somewhere else in different circumstances can say some bio essentialist bullshit to invalidate trans women's experiences. I shouldn't have to have "not all" in fine underprint when calling out abusive language.
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Uh no actually. My vagina, which is what my AGAB refers to is my genitals. Cannot be "Stratigeically used" to deny trans women womanhood when 1)I'm not intersex, i do not have an AGAB. And neither do you uness you're intersex
2) The topic is sexual abuse, rape, and pregnancy.
Nat@CurvyBug
@gambitbussie Ok but the argument is that some trans men strategically use their agab to deny trans women womanhood, which we have seen happen.
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Ngl I saw the Trans men talking about pregnancy and rape discussion turn into "how dare Trans men weaponize their ability to get pregnant" to many times to be surprised by the "cys men have less oppressive power than the Womb Class" takes were seeing now from the blue lives tfems
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