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@SaiyanXQ Even with the Japanese text obviously he's weaker than Gohan but this dialogue still implies he's at that SS2 tier level otherwise it wouldnt make sense.

Here’s an example of how meaning shifts in translation: In English, Cell says he’s "almost as powerful as Gohan." But the Japanese text says, "Just like Son Gohan, I have powered up immensely." He's comparing his massive power surge, not their exact power levels!

@anonymous735906 @dbs_10_10 Even using the "prodigy" reason for Frieza getting so much stronger at best he's surpassing Perfect Cell realistically speaking. There was no real build up to Frieza's power increase. It was just lazy and boring writing. They did not try at all.

@anonymous735906 @dbs_10_10 It doesnt make sense lol Frieza training for 4 months and being around the same tier as SSB is ridculous especially when you consider the fact that Super Saiyan 1 after the Hyperbolic Time Chamber in the Cell arc is already leagues above Mecha Frieza.

@landoncarsforu @SeventhStarSage

@ABP7771 @SeventhStarSage U stupid bro they didn't even wear those

My head canon is that Vegetto will always show up in the original Vegetto clothes, because the first fusion created the entity Vegetto and every subsequent fusion just brings that being back into existence rather than being treated as a new fusion

@SeventhStarSage @concededsoul Basically it should have looked look like this. I love how the orange stands out more with the blue hair.

@concededsoul @ABP7771 The original image uses a their RoF gis which they dont use in the future Trunks arc but Vegeta does have his battle armor on which he did not have on the Boo arc when they originally fused, despite the change in clothes Vegetto's fit is the same.

@FaidReview @Igneo42 @Woodlandbuckle @paleomario66 The Kais were stated to restrain Pure Buus power.

@ABP7771 @Igneo42 @Woodlandbuckle @paleomario66 I have a simple question for you How does having Gohan, Goten, Trunks and Piccolo REMOVED make Buu STRONGER when absorbing them increased Buu's power in the first place? Comparison: Buuhan: 2 + 3 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 8 Kid Buu: 8 - 3 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 2 = 11

All of the "Kid Buu is the strongest Buu" statements make more sense when you realize it's talking about versions of Buu without any absorptions Even Vegetto says Buuhan's power isn't entirely his

@Crispier_Cousy @Woodlandbuckle @paleomario66 Doesnt matter if it killed them or not. You're moving the goal post. When Goku began charging the Genki Dama against Vegeta and Frieza he was already serverly injured. Meaning that the Genki Dama doesnt require Goku to be at 100% for it to work. Again, its his trump card.

@ABP7771 @Woodlandbuckle @paleomario66 And yet it literally never has... Shit didn't kill Vegeta OR Frieza (or even so much as cripple them), and it couldn't get to Jiren, either. It just did big damage by taking them off-guard.

@Crispier_Cousy @Woodlandbuckle @paleomario66 Every Genki Dama ever thrown is launched by a weak Goku. The Genki Dama is Goku's Trump card when he has nothing else left. He doesnt need to be at 100% for it to work. It is meant to overpower the opponent on its own.

@ABP7771 @Woodlandbuckle @paleomario66 It was launched by a weak Goku. The Spirit Bomb is basically a giant, overpowered-as-fuck bullet, but no matter how strong it may be, it CAN’T overtake someone if the one pushing it forward isn’t strong enough to overpower them. Goku was a shitty gun, then he was a good one.

@Igneo42 @Woodlandbuckle @paleomario66 Who said anything about Gohan lol Gohan fanboys are the worst. Gohan fanboys are the main culprits as to why Pure Buu is so lowballed in powerscaling so no shocker here. Pure Buu being stronger than Buuhan and Super Buu brings Gohans stock down which is their problem.

@ABP7771 @Woodlandbuckle @paleomario66 Gohan giving his energy to the spirit bomb is not the same as Gohan actually being there and having his power be apart of the attack. Genki is a weird middle ground of definitely being stronger than what the average person can give but weaker than what the z fighters have.

@vegeta_daily Best character development of all Dragon Ball imo. Makes perfect sense especially with the 15 years of peace that takes place before GT starts.

@MonstrousBami @Gint0kiZer0 @Champizard14 Lol

@ABP7771 @Gint0kiZer0 @Champizard14 "Tiny ass spirit bomb" bro is a professional larper 😂😂😂

*Kid buu was toying with Goku. Goku said he underestimated him* Goku after fighting Kid Buu extensively and saying he did underestimate him: *I can kill him if I can charge up SS3* Goku still maintained he could kill buu if SS3 complied in his living body

@MonstrousBami @Gint0kiZer0 @Champizard14 "Why didnt Goku just throw a tiny ass Spirit Bomb at Frieza and gather more energy later" Lol you are so goofy and clearly trolling at this point. You're funny though.

@ABP7771 @Gint0kiZer0 @Champizard14 Piccolo literally ask why he's not launching the attack now and Krillin says he first must gather enough Genki, implying that he can't just go on and add more after launching it 😂

@Crispier_Cousy @Woodlandbuckle @paleomario66 The attack was launched. The problem was Pure Buu was strong enough to hold it back. A much weaker villain wouldnt have been able to do the same thing. Thats the entire point im making.

@ABP7771 @Woodlandbuckle @paleomario66 My nigga, he held it back because GOKU was not strong enough to push it FORWARD The MILLISECOND Goku got his stamina back, with REGULAR SSJ, he was able to just go "bye" and OBLITERATE that nigga

@MonstrousBami @Gint0kiZer0 @Champizard14 Lol you are just saying random BS that makes 0 sense. You sound like a little kid making these cringe arguments. I cant take this nonsense seriously.

@ABP7771 @Gint0kiZer0 @Champizard14 It's LITERALLY stated you can't add anymore energy after launching it which is WHY Goku was waiting lmao. Why didn't Goku launch it and than absorb more natural GENKI of the planet to it then ? You lost larper.

@MonstrousBami @Gint0kiZer0 @Champizard14 Yes, Goku uses the Genki Dama as a last resort when hes out of ki against everyone as a last resort. Vegeta, Frieza, and Pure Buu. Except in this specific scenario Goku's ki was restored, Allowing him to add his own ki. Im done with this debate. Its too boring now.

@ABP7771 @Gint0kiZer0 @Champizard14 I thought it was clear enough but apparently it wasn't lmao

@MonstrousBami @Gint0kiZer0 @Champizard14 Okay so basically nearly the entire Dragon Ball universe up to that point minus obscure places like Planet Yardrat. Gotcha.

@ABP7771 @Gint0kiZer0 @Champizard14 The Genkidama wasn't universal lmao it didn't have energy from the whole universe but only Earth, Enema Daio's men and Kaioshin and stuff

@MonstrousBami @Gint0kiZer0 @Champizard14 Let me know if you need help reading this little bud

@ABP7771 @Gint0kiZer0 @Champizard14 You gather GENKI, concentrates it and release it. The Genkidama fonctions by using Genki (not Ki) from other beings, not your own. Which is why Goku uses it against MUCH stronger foes than himself. You just don't understand the technique.