Andy Westerson

@darwintojesus But God would only have to make the perfect version of his creation. A perfect cube wouldn't be God, it would be a mathematically and physically perfect cube, no imperfections in shape or structure. Your assertion that God can't make something perfect fails.

Interesting argument. If we were to steel man this and represent it as a syllogism I think it would look like this: 1. God is perfect 2. A perfect being would only create perfect things 3. The world is imperfect 4. Therefore, a perfect God could not have created this world ...And then we'd further conclude a perfect God doesn't exist. The problem is with premise two, for a number of reasons. Firstly, what does it mean to be perfect? To be perfect is to lack for nothing, to be without flaws, to be fully actualized. But only God is like that, so the only way for God to make something perfect would be to make another God exactly like Himself. But there's a problem with this because the second God couldn't be exactly the same since he had to be created, rather than simply existing by his very nature. So logically speaking God can't create something perfect. This means that if* God creates, God can only create things that are imperfect. So now that we've established that God can't make something perfect, I guess the question is... why would God create? Here's a thought. Ontologically speaking God is the greatest conceivable being... would the greatest conceivable being create things? Or not create things? It seems obvious that creating is greater than not creating. An artist that creates no art wouldn't be much of an artist. If this is correct, it means God will create, and from my first argument God will create something imperfect... something flawed. Something lacking. Another thing worth pointing out is that as humans we knowingly create imperfect beings. We know when a baby is born, it's not perfect... yet we choose to do it anyway. Why? Is our desire to bring new life into the world something evil or wicked? I don't think so. I think it comes from our love for each other and our understanding that giving life is a blessing, even if that child screws up, even if they suffer, their life is a blessing. If God is good, wouldn't He want to bless something with the gift of life, the same way we do? I don't see why not. From this I think it follows that if God exists we'd expect to be in some sort of imperfect or flawed reality, and that's exactly what we find ourselves in. But how does atheism explain the existence of a flawed world? To say that something is flawed is to say it's not how it should be. But how can the world be flawed if atheism is true? On atheism the world just... is. It's not meant to be any sort of way. To be consistent the atheist would have to say reality isn't flawed, which is obviously absurd. This means that not only can Christianity explain the world we find ourselves in, it predicts it logically. Atheism on the other hand would have to predict a totally neutral world with no flaws, no issues, no evil... and no one in their right mind would say that's the world we find ourselves in. So this argument not only fails, it gives us more great reasons to reject atheism.

@nustud2007 @ss_reny82137 @brad_polumbo @Cjpearson @TheOmniLiberal What would make someone not a 'man of character', fucking murder?

@ss_reny82137 @brad_polumbo @Cjpearson @TheOmniLiberal "A man of character" can still be flawed and make mistakes. Stop being so delf righteous

Me: "There are 27 women that have accused President Trump of sexual misconduct... do you think all of them are lying?" @Cjpearson: "I don't know these women, but I do know that President Trump is a man of character!" @TheOmniLiberal: "The man of character is the one who cheated on all of his ex wives?" @Cjpearson: "Cheating is something you probably shouldn't be weighing in on, Destiny!" @TheOmniLiberal: "I'm not the president of the United States!" Full panel: youtu.be/FHu0zcfkKmc

@theOccWatcher @brad_polumbo @Cjpearson @TheOmniLiberal You have one account that claims 500 people witnessed it, you don't actually have 500 accounts.

@brad_polumbo @Cjpearson @TheOmniLiberal Such an obvious fallacy from these sophistry specialists. Over 500 people say Jesus's resurrection, but Liberals say that never happened.

@SteveMcRae_ If that's what you think then no wonder you aren't taken serious.

@AndyWesterson It matters if one wants to be taken serious on the subject.

I guess I am needed again to explain to people that atheism is in fact a belief. I will take on any challengers who think they have the knowledge and skill level to prove me wrong with substantive evidence and logic. Good luck with that! Atheism: The belief there is no God.

@SteveMcRae_ @evilsteveve If you think agnostic and atheist are mutually exclusive, then I could understand you thinking the term is nonsensical, but surely you have the brainpower to understand that it is a precise phrase and what it means when people say it, even if you disagree with its usage?

@AndyWesterson @evilsteveve Most are dumb then. "agnostic atheist" is either ambiguous, nonsensical, or superfluous.

@evilsteveve @SteveMcRae_ Most would likely agree with the term agnostic atheist. They don't believe in God (they go about their lives as if God doesn't exist), but they can't say they KNOW that no gods exist. When you say just agnostic, people think of someone who is on the fence on the issue.

@SteveMcRae_ Since you helped me change my view on this issue, i've noticed that the majority of internet atheists are really what I'd prescribe as agnostics. They don't deny it, but refuse to drop the atheist word.

@SteveMcRae_ @bradaisa lmao Asks for people to challenge their assertion... "DO NOT TRY TO CORRECT ME WAAAAAAA"

Atheism is the belief there is no God. Please do not try to correct me on a topic I educating people upon for a decade.

@James20993398 @pureMetatron Are you really making the argument that even if they are just as qualified, black people are just worse pilots? I'm not saying it's impossible to have bad pilots, I'm just saying there's no reason to be afraid of black pilots.

@AndyWesterson @pureMetatron Then all police officers are performing their jobs honestly and correctly. They're there because they're qualified, right?

The stupidest and most dishonest distortion of Charlie's real point. All you guys do is strawman a dead man who cannot respond. He was absolutely right by the way, when he said what he said about seeing a Black pilot. I agree with him 100%. Because it was a take on DEI, NOT race. This astronaut was clearly chosen for his skill, NOT his skin, so Charlie would have had ZERO problems with him. And neither do I. DEI is anti-White non meritocratic racism and it must be removed from our societies entirely, not matter how much left wing cultists cry about it. Cults don't matter.

@pureMetatron Would you say the same to people arguing for God's existence through ones like the cosmological or teleological arguments? They are just the reversed logic of the one you are replying to. They essentially map our own logical assumptions about God onto God to defend His existence

Not a sound argument. A human trying to reason what God wants and how he should go about manifesting his desires, is like an ant arguing what humans want, when we build quantum computers. It is the ultimate arrogance to try to logically reason God out of existence. You can choose to not believe in Him. But once we engage with the concept of a God, to make statements about what a being whose intelligence and complexity is far beyond ours wants, or should do, based on your reasoning and expectations rather than scripture, is arrogant beyond any measure. If God exists, already our description of "good" is only a fragment of His true nature, which we cannot comprehend nor linguistically define. Our languages are not apt for this. We can only approximate. Given that, even using our limited language to describe Him, God is a Father. He is a parent. Does a 7 year old child understand why his dad insists he goes to school? Even though he doesn't want to? Does the child understand how much he will miss out in life if he doesn't? Career, marriage etc.? Yet the child trusts the parent, because the parent knows better. When we have faith in God, we trust Him because we know He knows better, even when things appear out of place, or illogical from our limited child-like perspective. As for the states of all powerful and good being somehow a contradiction to salvation for all, you have to add Justice. God is Just. He is justice in a way we will never achieve in this life with our laws and governments. He is all powerful and all good, but he is also just. So a truly evil being, who does not repent, will not be saved. Justice is also part of the plan.

@MrXisDead @quillwrittn @pureMetatron They no likey black people pilots. At least that's what seems to be the case so far.

@quillwrittn @AndyWesterson @pureMetatron So what is ur issue if thy are both trained the same way 😂

@quillwrittn @Diana33_33 @pureMetatron And before you say it, by you I mean the people arguing your side. I know it was some other idiot who did the graph.

@quillwrittn @Diana33_33 @pureMetatron Every time you try to provide evidence, it's either a different DEI related program, a misinterpretation/misrepresentation of what actually happened, or entirely based on your vibes/some shitty MS paint graph. Look up what evidence means, then see if you can find some.

@Diana33_33 @quillwrittn @pureMetatron

@quillwrittn @AndyWesterson @pureMetatron Where's the proof, fake christian?

@quillwrittn @pureMetatron :)

@quillwrittn @pureMetatron If they had lowered the standards then you would expect to see evidence of that. If they hadn't lowered the standards you would expect to see people whining about DEI without having any evidence that they lowered standards. So you still have no evidence I guess?

@quillwrittn @pureMetatron Do you have any evidence that that was the case with pilots? No? Ok. Nice talking to you.

@AndyWesterson @pureMetatron It’s a proven fact that the majority of DEI hiring practices lowers the standards by discriminating based on skin color rather than merits. DEI is just racism. How is that hard to see?

@Jonesboycool @Bad_Lerry @pureMetatron Why is it impossible for you to imagine them trying to increase the number of QUALIFIED people accepted who are from more diverse backgrounds? Do you think there simply aren't any?

@Jonesboycool @Bad_Lerry @pureMetatron No I understand what you're saying, I'm asking for evidence. Do you understand how this isn't evidence? All you're doing is repeatedly asserting that they are lowering the qualification cutoff with no evidence.

@quillwrittn @pureMetatron I'm sure that many have done that. If they lower the standards for certain groups of people, that's most likely a bad thing. But you can't just claim they are lowering the standards whenever people want to hire more black people. That's just racism. How is that hard to see?

@AndyWesterson @pureMetatron It is true though. DEI hiring policies have been proven to lower standards to meet racial quotas. So you fully admit you were lying and mischaracterizing what he was talking about?