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@DMVBlessed @JoeArrigo_ @t_one11 The problem is that LeBron never wanted to be coached. He tried to get spolestra fired, got the Cavs coach fired, etc. and the facts show that LeBron has played with far more help than MJ. And do you think any reasonable person thinks pippen is greater all time than MJ? No.

@JoeArrigo_ @t_one11 People study and do homework and still fail because they don’t even know what to look for. Phil Jackson even called Pippen the best player on the team. MJ and Kobe had arguably the best coach in NBA history. LeBron had nothing close to that

I’ve watched all three eras. For me, the GOAT debate isn’t close. Michael Jordan Kobe Bryant LeBron James/Kareem Abdul-Jabbar This isn’t a knock on LeBron. It’s about what I value when defining greatness. This morning on SportsCenter, Brian Windhorst talked about teams lining up to sign a 41-year-old LeBron. He said that is his legacy. Averaging 20.9 points, 7.2 assists and 6.1 rebounds in Year 23 is something we’ve never seen before. But longevity doesn’t automatically equal greatness. If longevity is the measuring stick, then don’t forget Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Kareem played 20 seasons, won six championships, six MVPs, retired as the NBA’s all-time leading scorer, and scored the overwhelming majority of his points in the paint and at the free-throw line, without relying on the three-point shot that defines today’s game. His longevity was every bit as remarkable. Jordan’s résumé speaks for itself: • 6 championships • 6 Finals MVPs • 5 MVPs • Defensive Player of the Year • 10 scoring titles • 9 First Team All-Defense • 6-0 in the Finals Kobe’s résumé gets overlooked: • 5 championships • 2 Finals MVPs • 1 MVP • 12 All-Defensive Teams (9 First Team) • Two decades with one franchise • The closest thing we’ve ever seen to Jordan mentally and stylistically. Then there’s LeBron: • 4 championships • 4 Finals MVPs • 4 MVPs • 6 All-Defensive selections • No Defensive Player of the Year • 4-6 in the Finals • The greatest career of sustained excellence the league has ever seen. Here’s where I separate Jordan from LeBron. Jordan never left to build a superteam. Jordan never lost on the biggest stage. Jordan was the best offensive player in basketball while also winning Defensive Player of the Year. Jordan didn’t just beat opponents. He broke them. He struck fear in them. And Kobe? Kobe is still ahead of LeBron for me because I value two-way basketball, competitive obsession, staying with one franchise, and the willingness to fail on your own terms rather than constantly reshaping the roster around you. LeBron’s numbers are unmatched. His longevity may never be duplicated. But when I think of the player who had the greatest impact on winning, who struck the most fear into opponents, who dominated both ends of the floor, and who defined an era, that’s easy for me, I’m still taking MJ. And if we’re talking about the mentality it takes to wear a championship on your back every single night, I still think LeBron spent his career chasing Bean as much as he spent it chasing Jordan.

@Beattheoddz1 @wavytalkhoops He’s trying to come at the 90s skill while having a Russell Westbrook pic as his avi 😂😂

@wavytalkhoops What 90s clips? I promise you if you bought into that “we done with the 90s” bullshit then you’re an idiot who doesn’t know shit about 90s basketball. Also if you’re judging basketball off clips, you’ve embarrassed yourself

This is exactly how every Jordan fan thinks. They say MJ is the goat because he has six rings but in the same breath tell you Bill Russell’s eleven doesn’t carry as much weight because of era like we all haven’t seen the 90s clips lol

@wavytalkhoops What makes this more insane is that this guy has Russell Westbrook as his avi talking about 90s skill 😂😂😂😂😂😂

@wavytalkhoops No that’s a simple minded take. MJ is considered the goat because he dominated from both a statistical and winning perspective. Bill won but wasn’t as statistically impressive as a wilt, for example.

@KingSmoove009 @WembyAlienEra Ben Simmons played during the LeBron era lmao

@WembyAlienEra League was watered down in mj era due to expansion teams ! Bill Russell played during segregation, none of these dudes I don’t believe would’ve survived that / have a career playing in the nba. LeBron played during the most competitive era’s with all the athleticism and skill

Victor Wembanyama says Michael Jordan is the GOAT: “At the moment it’s Jordan. Because in basketball the aim is to win. He has the most titles. But careful you could say, that Bill Russell’s the GOAT in that case. He has 11 rings. But I don’t agree, you have to take era into account. Winning 11 rings back then wasn’t the same as winning 6 in Jordan’s era.. I think when you’re discussing who’s best you have to compare the eras.” #GoSpursGo #PorVida

@Chrisqyzb @WembyAlienEra The great thing about reality is we don’t have to resort to hypotheticals. The reality is LeBron hasn’t dominated his era to the same degree other superstars did theirs.

@WembyAlienEra Name 10 superstars Jordan had to play against then compare what LeBron had to compete against. LeBron is the greatest doesn’t matter how you slice it. Jordan couldn’t do what he did in Lebrons era and Bron would have won 12 titles in Jordan’s era.

@WembyAlienEra MJ has lead his team to the most championships in the modern era while dominating statistically. Bill won a lot but we argue wilt was more statistically dominant in the same era.

@DragonflyJonez Tbh the way Jay Williams acts on tv I’m not shocked that someone said something out of pocket to him. He’s arrogant and speaks as if he’s made wise choices throughout his life. I don’t like what RJ said either. But it comes across as too fools seeing who’s lower

That shit RJ said was so crazy that I thought maybe we just didn’t know how close RJ and Jay are bc you gotta be really good friends with someone to even think about cracking a joke like that. And Jay is up here saying they’re just associates. RJ was really on some wild shit

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@SpencerMar63008 @FastbreakHoops5 The truth is you don’t 😂. It’s more than championships as to why LeBron is not the goat 😂😂. I know it hurts to hear. If you say bill is my goat that’s fine but you’re admitting your goat ain’t it

@CobaltMAC23 @FastbreakHoops5 then why isnt bill russell your goat. Honestly i think Robery Horry is the GOAT under your logic! its crazy yall dont even understand enough to have a coherent convo.

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@SpencerMar63008 @FastbreakHoops5 Consensus will never put a 4-6 record or 4 chips in 23 seasons player as the goat 😂. Only naive fans that don’t value the reason you play the sport lol

@CobaltMAC23 @FastbreakHoops5 he aint my GOAT boss. hes the worlds GOAT. Time to accept it

@SpencerMar63008 @FastbreakHoops5 Nope. Wouldn’t help your goats 0/7. Crazy stat. You could’ve done that work lol

@CobaltMAC23 @FastbreakHoops5 Now do the final 2 minutes :) cherry picking

@TheBHentel This type of low brain coverage of all time greats is sadly a standard for modern pundits

The fellas were comparing Curry’s film of scoring 50 in the Garden vs MJ’s film from the 80’s and Bhen/Mook spent MJ’s whole highlight flaming em 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 “That nigga sad … Bron you da goat, you was right you da goat” ☠️☠️☠️☠️

@JAM3SMADDISON This whole video is retarded lol

i guess tiktok is a real app

@SpencerMar63008 @FastbreakHoops5 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@CobaltMAC23 @FastbreakHoops5 I guess I'm just looking at this from the GOAT lens and how ridiculous it is that LBJ is MASSIVELY MORE EFFECIENT everyone makes Jordan out to be God until they realize he never shot 50% for a full season after the year 1992. Like bro.

@RealCap @vntgwillams @Steel_city_6 @FastbreakHoops5 By your logic you should see what LeBron accomplished without any all star help.. nothing. Who cares that Jordan needed an all star to win. He still won fool 😂

@CobaltMAC23 @vntgwillams @Steel_city_6 @FastbreakHoops5 He’s a quitter & System player. Great Efficient Volume shooter and top 10 NBA players in history and top 2 in influence I give him that But all round? Lots of players are clear of him. He never had a 41 game or 50% win season without pippen. Never had a Playoff series win too

@vntgwillams @RealCap @Steel_city_6 @FastbreakHoops5 Dumbest argument ever. By your logic pippen must be greater than Jordan

@RealCap @CobaltMAC23 @Steel_city_6 @FastbreakHoops5 you know ball scottie pippin in reverse won 4 playoff series and reached that 40-win mark in 6 out of 7 seasons without Jordan on his roster. which could mean he carried jordan cuz he was competitive without jordan.

@vntgwillams @Steel_city_6 @RealCap @FastbreakHoops5 Cool story bro. If only those totals helped him achieve more than Jordan. Too bad he never did and never will

@CobaltMAC23 @Steel_city_6 @RealCap @FastbreakHoops5 51,961 - LeBron’s Total points 38,279 - Jordan’s Total Points Jordan will TEAR HIS ACL if he attempts to ever reach this level, he never will.

@Steel_city_6 @vntgwillams @RealCap @FastbreakHoops5 Also passed him in losses 😂. Regular season and finals. Oh and missed shots.

@vntgwillams @RealCap @CobaltMAC23 @FastbreakHoops5 LBJ passed MJ in points with 1200 less shots. Learn ball