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@_VoidRevenant
Militant Agnostic | Doom Metal & Deathcore Enjoyer
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@redpillpopper78 @RealestMemes_ And if person A says โa car is a red road vehicle with 4 wheelsโ and person B says โwait a minute, I know for a fact that there are cars that are blueโ would you seriously claim that person Bโs rebuttal is irrelevant to person Aโs statement?
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@redpillpopper78 @RealestMemes_ Come on man donโt play dumb, you werenโt just saying โmy definitionโ you were making a very broad statement about what marriage has โalways beenโ that was incorrect.
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@_VoidRevenant @RealestMemes_ Marriage has always been defined as holy matrimony where 1 man and 1 woman come together before God for the purpose of generating and educating children. Deal with it. Go on, โwhataboutโ the shit out of it lol
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@redpillpopper78 @RealestMemes_ People can get married to whichever consenting adult they want, for whatever reasons they want, thatโs it. Itโs pretty benign, but that just makes it that much more strange that so many are determined to be obstacles to that happening.
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@_VoidRevenant @RealestMemes_ Ok. Lets bottom line this thing.
Say youโre right.
So what?
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@redpillpopper78 @RealestMemes_ I see, I guess โyouโll just say anything to make a pointโ was just projection then. You gotta be more subtle about that.
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@_VoidRevenant @RealestMemes_ Youโre defending it. That was the desired effect
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@redpillpopper78 @RealestMemes_ Iโve already responded to all of this.
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@_VoidRevenant @RealestMemes_ Its pretty clear that will just say anything to make a point.
Marriage is an institution of the church, thats why they happen in churches.
If they donโt, its a civil union, not a marriage.
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@redpillpopper78 @RealestMemes_ No it doesnโt, you even acknowledge this by referring to Swahili marriage as marriage, you wouldnโt have done that if your given definition of marriage was correct.
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@_VoidRevenant @RealestMemes_ Yes it does, that is the cultural definition you were raised with.
A Swahili marriage ceremony existing doesnโt change that in the slightest.
In the west, holy matrimony defined by the Christian church is the norm
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@redpillpopper78 @RealestMemes_ Except the points Iโve made are directly relevant to your definition of marriage and saying โsome prefer bananasโ to someone who likes apples is irrelevant. I offered to take your last embarrassingly bad rebuttal as a concession man, you had an out, you can just stop if you want.
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@_VoidRevenant @RealestMemes_ No it doesnโt.
If I said โapples are tastyโ and you pointed out some prefer bananas, you havenโt refuted anything, you are making an unrelated point.
Thats all thatโs happened here.
I had assumed you had some larger point you were trying to get to, but its clear you donโt.
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@redpillpopper78 @RealestMemes_ โฆIโm trying to muddy the waters or obfuscate, you can stop saying that because it isnโt having the effect you think it is.
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@redpillpopper78 @RealestMemes_ What do you think happens if you acknowledge that what Iโm saying is true and I think of marriage secularly? Whatโs your reasoning for being so blown away by that that you actually canโt believe it? I donโt care at all that you think by refuting your definition of marriageโฆ
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@redpillpopper78 @RealestMemes_ The fact that Iโve heard of the christian definition of marriage before doesnโt suggest that christianity exclusively defines marriage. Do you have a recent head injury?
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@_VoidRevenant @RealestMemes_ Right. And you didnโt say โive never heard that beforeโ , because of course you have.
You just set about the task of muddying the waters for no clear reason.
Seriously, what is your point?
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@redpillpopper78 @RealestMemes_ Because the existence of marriage that doesnโt fit your definition of marriage refutes your definition of marriage, thatโs my entire point. If you ask what the point of making this observation again Iโll just link this reply so re-read it as many times as you need to.
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@_VoidRevenant @RealestMemes_ Right. The definition of marriage you grew up with in the west. The Christian definition. The best version that exists.
How does pointing out that there are other, less beneficial arrangements make for a good argument?
Who cares?
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@redpillpopper78 @RealestMemes_ โYouโre bad at thisโ could not be more obvious projection, I mean weโve reached the point where you have to deny that I think what I actually think, Iโll do you the favor of taking that as a concession at this point, save you any more embarrassment.
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@_VoidRevenant @RealestMemes_ No, you donโt. You think church bells and white dresses like everyone else.
Youโre bad at this lol
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@redpillpopper78 @RealestMemes_ How do I know what youโre talking about? You gave your definition dumbass lmao holy shit
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@_VoidRevenant @RealestMemes_ Again.. who cares?
How do you know what im talking about then?
Is it because that is the definition of marriage in the culture you were raised in?
What is your point?
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@redpillpopper78 @RealestMemes_ โฆchristian, I donโt โdefault to itโ, I generally think secular marriage when I think of the concept/practice of marriage personally.
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@redpillpopper78 @RealestMemes_ Whether marriage that doesnโt fit your definition of marriage is better or worse doesnโt matter at all here, I donโt know why you keep bringing that up. The fact is that they exist, and therefore marriage canโt exclusively be defined the way you defined it. Iโm not aโฆ
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@redpillpopper78 @RealestMemes_ โฆchristianity itself and therefore canโt exclusively be defined along christian lines.
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@redpillpopper78 @RealestMemes_ โOther arrangements existโ isnโt the argument, the observation is that your definition of marriage is incorrect because youโre defining marriage along exclusively christian, โone man and one woman for the purposes of childrearingโ lines and marriage literally predatesโฆ
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@redpillpopper78 @RealestMemes_ You defined marriage incorrectly and Iโve corrected you, you dislike this reality and are kicking and screaming in response.
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@_VoidRevenant @RealestMemes_ Ah, so what are we discussing, then?
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@redpillpopper78 @RealestMemes_ Do you know what agnosticism is?
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@redpillpopper78 @RealestMemes_ None of that is true, โholy matrimonyโ is rooted in Christian theology, marriage predates and continues to exist outside of Christianity and even setting aside Christianity, โbefore godโ isnโt consistent either, so neither of those concepts are necessary to the definition ofโฆ
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@_VoidRevenant @RealestMemes_ Marriage is and always has been between one man and one woman for the purpose of starting a family.
Other arrangements exist, like rich guys having 20 wives, or financial arrangements where women are basically cattle, but they arenโt as good.
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