red button pushers seem to be cynics trying to pass that off as measured intelligence.
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"Everyone would push red" is a very insane position but another very strange position is that most young people wouldn't pick blue.
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Blue button pressers press blue because, basically, they are convinced there is no version of reality where nobody presses blue. Before I looked at polls on this I literally assumed Blue would be 90% of votes.
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The people who are saying they would push red because they only care about themselves or don't care about the "dumb people" who push blue I can track but I can't even begin to understand the "everyone would/ should pick red" group.
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"Everyone could push red" is such a strange statement when "most people could push blue" is right there and actually aligns with... like... empathy.
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I literally struggle to imagine most people pushing red without some kind of outside pressure. I saw this question and thought the results wouldn't even be close because (obviously) most people would pick blue.
jim iuorio@jimiuorio
The red button blue button debate is way more layered than I originally thought. The hypothetical nature of the consequences allows the blue button people to view themselves as heroic saviors. They predict thier own behavior based on these delusions. The logical thinking skills of the red button people actually move to the next level thinking; how will the majority behave when the consequences graduate from hypothetical? History gives us a pretty conclusive answer..
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Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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I don't believe in every version of religion I've been presented with so if you think I reject Christianity because I don't understand it. Unless you plan to explain "real" Christianity to me that complaint is meaningless.
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Every libertarian I have ever met who attempted to explain their beliefs was just a vaguely, socially liberal right winger (and the socially liberal part is me being generous).
Jordan Howard@Skwerilleee
The fact that everyone is not just naturally a libertarian is something I have a really hard time understanding. Like what gives so many people the compulsion to want to control other people's lives? Can't wrap my head around where the desire to do that even comes from..
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Somehow Americans actually think that if we all didn't work at least 40 to 80 hours a week everything would fall apart.
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Other people paying or sacrificing for the things you need is a bare minimum for a society to function. Just because your waitress gets paid doesn't mean she isn't sacrificing anything to be at that job she is working.
Sarah A. Hoyt@SarahAHoyt
All I wanted to do was write fiction. But because my husband and I were grown up, we sacrificed so I could stay home with the kids and write around the edges. Because making others pay for what you want is called slavery. One of the names for slavery is socialism.
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People complaining that they don't want to work are almost always flailing against alienation and not labor itself.
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Very often the job people would be good at is also the job they would actually enjoy.
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Responding to people complaining about capitalism with "work would exist without capitalism" so fundamentally misses the point I'm convinced you are misunderstanding on purpose.
Kostas Moros@MorosKostas
Then go make art and be in your garden. Nobody is stopping you. If you say "but then how will I pay rent and eat!", then your actual complaint is you want stuff to be handed to you for free. Which means *others* have to work to provide for you, and not make art or be in gardens.
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We’re not discovering God. We are assuming a framework in which God is already assumed.
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We can say all we want that the Bible is prescriptive but we still have decide what it means so really, our interpretations are authoritative but that is not the same thing as a God.
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If I still have to interpret the Bible or revelation or decide which religious ideas to trust or dismiss, if I still have use my own logic and reasoning to figure out what is and isn't moral then the religion itself isn't doing much other than being a sounding board.
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This position isn't even about defiance. Everything about my current understanding of the world tells me homosexuality is amoral or moral but not immoral, just saying it is bad is like telling me anything else that doesn't match up with any of my understanding of the world.
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If there is an objective, theistic morality that demands I act outside of and against my moral intuitions it would still need to explain itself, otherwise I would end up automatically siding with whatever my moral intuitions are.
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