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@AbelAudie84152 @JJHorvath @Aetheling1066 @Madjaxx420 @fameinvisible 😂😂😂the fool in his heart says there is no God
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@techomseh @JJHorvath @Aetheling1066 @Madjaxx420 @fameinvisible Shep, this is my last comment to you.
Our conversation is over. I don't give my time to narcissistic children who rant, insult, block, and run.
If you pay attention and act more humble, you'll find that in every comment I share things that forced my disbelief.
Have a good life




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@AbelAudie84152 @JJHorvath @Aetheling1066 @Madjaxx420 @fameinvisible What is “the good” “unbiased”? You continue to make metaphysical claims and universal claims as if you know what these things are and I continue to ask how you know, give me an account of your epistemology
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@JJHorvath @techomseh @Aetheling1066 @Madjaxx420 @fameinvisible You asked what I believe.
I have to go to work soon, but in general:
We humans lie, exaggerate, and delude ourselves when it comes to our beliefs.
Only commit to a belief that is supported by good*, unbiased*, factual*, evidence* and you'll avoid believing false things. T2ul8r

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@AbelAudie84152 @JJHorvath @Aetheling1066 @Madjaxx420 @fameinvisible Muh traditions of men. And who wrote all those scholarly books you read and believe🤡
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@JJHorvath @techomseh @Aetheling1066 @Madjaxx420 @fameinvisible ^^read that picture.
No matter what belief system it is, u always have Men pop up once in a while who are highly narcissistic, ambitious, arrogant, and confident in what they claim.
They do their best to sell their claims and some people are always gullible enough to buy them




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@AbelAudie84152 @JJHorvath @Aetheling1066 @Madjaxx420 @fameinvisible 😂😂😂yes listen to an AI and a person that does not defend a position but claims to know things and shows you his Bible catalogue
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@JJHorvath @techomseh @Aetheling1066 @Madjaxx420 @fameinvisible @techomseh isn't going to help u. He's only going to reinforce his beliefs without question. He blocked me after his rant.
They split for the same reasons protestants split all the time.
Narcissistic Men create beliefs that their ideas are superior and the gullible follow them.

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@AbelAudie84152 @JJHorvath @Aetheling1066 @Madjaxx420 @fameinvisible 😂😂😂😂Chris hitchens 🤡you’re literally like a protestant believing in freedom of conscience and worship, indoctrinated into liberal higher “scholarly” criticism. Still no explanation of knowing the true from the false
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@JJHorvath @techomseh @Aetheling1066 @Madjaxx420 @fameinvisible I'll give u more book info later. Wife getting angry at me. Here's some of my favs on one of my bookshelves. Zoom. Gn

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@AbelAudie84152 @JJHorvath @Aetheling1066 @Madjaxx420 @fameinvisible Again you keep asserting these things but still haven’t given an epistemic justification as to how you know what is true. And you never will bc in the end your worldview is relative and self serving.
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@techomseh @JJHorvath @Aetheling1066 @Madjaxx420 @fameinvisible "The apostles cite the Greek Septuagint"
Do you mean the anonymous authors of the Greco-Roman Pauline gospels?
Acts isn't historical fact.
It's a faulty book of claims created by a non-witness.
I thought u didn't need the Bible? :)
If the Bible isn't true, you have a problem. Gn




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@JJHorvath @AbelAudie84152 @Aetheling1066 @Madjaxx420 @fameinvisible List of early Church Fathers you can read from the 1-3 centuries
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@JJHorvath @AbelAudie84152 @Aetheling1066 @Madjaxx420 @fameinvisible Idk the number but it was made official by Clement VII
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@JJHorvath @AbelAudie84152 @Aetheling1066 @Madjaxx420 @fameinvisible Polycarp, Irenaeus, Gregory Nyssa, Ignatius, Eusebius

@AbelAudie84152 @techomseh @Aetheling1066 @Madjaxx420 @fameinvisible thats not the purpose of that question. i can explain why I asked question if you want. But was writings do you recommend from early Christians?
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@JJHorvath @AbelAudie84152 @Aetheling1066 @Madjaxx420 @fameinvisible This is the apostolic succession of the Church of Antioch not Rome. Rome defected from the true faith in the 11th century mainly due to papal supremacy claims
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@techomseh @AbelAudie84152 @Aetheling1066 @Madjaxx420 @fameinvisible so you don't think roman Catholics have that succession?
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@AbelAudie84152 @JJHorvath @Aetheling1066 @Madjaxx420 @fameinvisible Wrong read acts 15 Paul rebukes Peter in the first council in Jerusalem regarding the acceptance of gentiles which fulfills all the messianic prophecies. Also the apostles almost always cite the Greek Septuagint and also the deutero canon.
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@JJHorvath @techomseh @Aetheling1066 @Madjaxx420 @fameinvisible Jake, do yourself a favor and dig deeper.
No Pauline Greco-Roman branch of Christianity is going to get you close to what the actual followers of Jesus believed. They were Apocalyptic Messianic Jews who kept the Torah.
Learn more about the early Jewish Christian sects.
#Ebionim




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@JJHorvath @AbelAudie84152 @Aetheling1066 @Madjaxx420 @fameinvisible Yes and it’s the “laying on of hands” (1 Timothy, Acts 8) to receive the Holy Spirit and divine authority Christ gave to the Apostles
…leanapostolicsuccession.wordpress.com/holy-patriarch…
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@techomseh @AbelAudie84152 @Aetheling1066 @Madjaxx420 @fameinvisible hey I have some questions about the difference between you guys and roman catholic church. are either one of you guys able to trace blood lines back to 12 apostles of Christ? obviously the ones that had children.
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@AbelAudie84152 @Aetheling1066 @JJHorvath @Madjaxx420 @fameinvisible I don’t need the Bible to know God. Christ established the Orthodox Church of which I am a part of. We know Christ and his message through the apostolic deposit handed down through the centuries. It is in the Liturgy, the icons, relics, history, and oral tradition of the Church.
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@techomseh @Aetheling1066 @JJHorvath @Madjaxx420 @fameinvisible Gn Shep. T2ul8r.
Try to understand that millions of Christians aren't leaving Christianity because of TAG or evolution, even.
They have been leaving by the millions since the start of the information age because the Bible is a flawed human creation no different from the Quran.




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@AbelAudie84152 @Aetheling1066 @JJHorvath @Madjaxx420 @fameinvisible The Bible is not being proven with TAG, atheism/agnosticism is being critiqued at the meta level. You have no epistemic justification for logic, ethics, knowledge, the mind, time, space, predication. Your worldview is arbitrary and you cannot debate against the Christian paradigm
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@techomseh @Aetheling1066 @JJHorvath @Madjaxx420 @fameinvisible TAG is what I call a typical "any god fallacy."
Presuppositional and biased arguments such as TAG aren't proving the Bible true even if you thought they were reasonable. They are arguments designed to appease a believer.
An argument that can be used for any fake god doesn't help




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@AbelAudie84152 @Aetheling1066 @JJHorvath @Madjaxx420 @fameinvisible Check out the transcendental argument for the existence of God (TAG). It’s a form of presuppositional argumentation in the comparison of worldviews at the metaphysical level.
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@Aetheling1066 @JJHorvath
@madjaxx420
@fameinvisible
@techomseh
Sorry guys, I can't respond anymore.
The admin kicked me.
Have a good life.




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@techomseh
Blessed Merry Christmas
Dear Friend if Christ
Faith Full Friends r n Christ
Forever
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