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Guy who claimed that Georgian is persianate language now claims that Persia is Dindu Nuffin
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شرقزده sharghzadeh@sharghzadeh
Nation-states require lies, mythologizing, genocide, etc. That's why I'm glad that Iran, despite all its problems, is a real country. We never had to invent history or genocide/deport a people to create Iran. Israel, Turkey, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Azerbaijan, etc, cannot say that.
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@cavidaga @gvbrdghvnian Hi!
Sorry for the inconvenience and late reply (was at vacation). The error has now been corrected, leading to a change in the team members' list.
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#NewProfilePicture This is my own rendering of the original seal of the Catholicos of Caucasian Albania (Azerbaijan Republic). shs.hal.science/halshs-0068396… Author of open article: Christelle Julien (2011) Original work: Philippe Gignoux Sceaux chrétiens d'époque sassanide (1980)
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@FactCheckAze @gvbrdghvnian Why are you using the image I created without permission
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After some mismanagement of the account by a fellow team member, the specific person has now been removed from the team and alterations produced by they/them has been removed.
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This is my own rendering of the original seal of the Catholicos of Caucasian Albania (Azerbaijan Republic).
shs.hal.science/halshs-0068396…
Author of open article: Christelle Julien (2011)
Original work: Philippe Gignoux Sceaux chrétiens d'époque sassanide (1980)
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@HovhanNaz Mamkon and konak was turkics so was Chenk, its is very convenient to call them ”chinese”.
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Armenia’s Mamikonian noble dynasty, who for centuries commanded the army, also claimed Chinese descent, although that is considered legendary
Zhao DaShuai 东北进修🇨🇳 Commentary@zhao_dashuai
Countries whose royal family claims ancestry from China or whose national founding myths are related to China:
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@lusine_djanyan This is a Azerbaijani carpet from Shirvan school of carpet making. Armenians never had a carpet making culture, you learned later on from your neighbours. The cross is middle is Khach (khach is a turkic originated word for cross) tamga of Azerbaijani heritage🇦🇿.
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This carpet is Azerbaijani. Armenians never had any carpet making culture. Even the description fabricates an alleged ”armenian extreme presence” in the north west of Azerbaijan. This is a Shirvan rug of Shirvan school. The Tamga and other embroidery motifs is not armenian.
Lusiné🇦🇲FreeArtsakh@lusine_djanyan
This carpet is older than azerbaijan
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@gvbrdghvnian Wouldnt called it daring, the modern day persian language is 60-70% arabic and was adopted by the seljuks as mean to stop arabization due to heavy influx of arabs into persia 7th century-10th century. Also the guy himself is Azeri, what irony within irony
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@FactCheckAze Yeah he had crazy claims concerning extent and meaning of persianate but to claim that it's just Turkic(what you seem to claim) is rather daring.
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@gvbrdghvnian Its not my worldview, this is a example of how he operates his kanging with that worldview, which you first pointed out.
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@FactCheckAze >> we might as well call
You can do whatever fits your worldview.
>> You see where this is going
I see that you are doing some historic revisionism on the subject that tbh not a lot of people outside Iran and Azerbaijan cares that much 😁
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@grok Was Zangezur transferred to Armenian SSR in late 1920 (november) by the soviet regime from the Azerbaijani SSR, making Nakchivan an exclave? Yes or no asnwer please.
Gaute Halvorsen🇪🇺🇦🇲🇺🇦@gaute_halvorsen
That's an interesting comment, seeing that Azerbaijan was an unrecognized separatist entity between 1918-1920. What follows, according to Aliyev's logic, is that what Azerbaijan actions in the last 35 years with Nagorno-Karabakh (Artsakh), has been invasions and occupation.
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@gvbrdghvnian Ok, then we might as well call the Ottomans for a Greek empire and the era of Georgian expansion for a Kypchak expansion? Not that the tajiks/persians even played that big role as the Kypchaks did but nevertheless, why not? You see were this is going?
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@FactCheckAze >> no empire is 100% of X people then
yes that's why it is called empire and not a nation state
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@gvbrdghvnian With that logic, no empire is 100% of X people then. , which itself results in negationism. There was political reason for this as well as a ideological, the 1920s and late renaissance era of oriental revisionism done by brits. The ”pars” you are talking about was called tajiks.
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@FactCheckAze It's not exclusively Azeri-Turk and Not exclusively Pars either, it's not an issue that anybody outside of Turk-Pars is very much interested when I say Persian I mean Persia including the Turkic element.
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”persianate” pasardgarde fan-fiction intesifies. Just search what was done to persepolis in the 1920s.
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Nothing could be further from the truth, iran was created in 1925 by the british empire after abolishing the millenia old turkic Azerbaijani rule and adopted the name iran even after protest from Afghanistan. The reconstruction of pasargarde/persepolis, 1920s revisionism etc etc.
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@gvbrdghvnian From a objective point of view, its Azeris.
From a subjective point of view, it could be compared to Ottomans calling themselves ”Kayseri-Rum”, rulers of Rome (cause of conquest). From a coping point of view its called persian hence the cope terms ”persianate” or ”turco-persian”.
GIF
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@ArabsinPictures Mamluks were Turkic Kypchak nation ruling parts of the middle east.
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🇮🇷 Lake Urmia, Iran
Lake Urmia, formerly the largest lake in West Asia is now almost completely dried up.
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That carpet within the pool is Azerbaijani (Turkic), those other motifs are Turkic heritage of Ottoman (turkish) and Azerbaijani style. Study about turkic embroidery and tamga motifs. Also persia died in the 7th century.
𝗔𝗿𝗮𝗯 𝘃𝗶𝘀𝗶𝗼𝗻@3rab_vision
It’s crazy how much Arab-phobia, double standards and inferiority complexes show up. When it’s Iran, we call it “Persian” When it’s Turkey, we call it “Ottoman” But when it’s Arab, suddenly people avoid the word “Arab” and instead say “Islamic”? Neglecting any Arab contribution.
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