Tankie ☭

Dont Forget The Brutal US Invasions , Carpet bombings , Scorched Earth Campaigns , Genocides usually followed by Brutal Civil Wars , assassination attempts & nonstop coup plots funding of terrorists and rebels the list goes on and on , and im not making any of this up.

"well documented to be undeniable" For atrocities committed in the DPRK come from grainy satellite images and hearsay based on defectors, which are known to be an unreliable source and paid propagandists. The rest of the information about atrocities in the DPRK literally come from anonymous sources... want me to dunk on you idiot more?

@AliceBright_ To your credit I think the tankie atrocities are well enough documented to be undeniable to even half of the tankies who go "it happened and it was based ackshually" Anarchists aren't the only leftists though with progressives and socdems and others out there being a first step

"You like left infighting!" Yes. "Left unity" only benefits tankies by making us stay silent about their atrocities and bad opinions. They scare away potential communists. I'm only loyal to anarchist unity. Baby leftists should begin their journey with anarchism, not stateslop

@AliceBright_ Us tankies reject left unity, you anarchists believe in anti-communist propaganda about communist "atrocities" hence why we reject left unity.

Mainland China and Hong Kong have different legal/electoral systems because HK was a former British colony returned under special terms. Thats the whole point of the Basic Law and one country two systems. And thats why I stopped using HK as the example. For mainland China, use mainland people’s congress elections.

@HandsOffDPRK China has better democratic system than Hong Kong? Why doesn't China ask Hong Kong to follow?

India is right there as an example of what would have happened if China had allowed itself to become a neocolony.

Same country, still a different system. Hence why I prefer to use another example now. Mainland China is the better example...local peoples congress deputies at county/township level are directly elected, then higher congresses are elected upward indirectly. thus china is democratic.

@HandsOffDPRK If China is democratic, isn't Hong Kong democratic too?

@GeorgeFSinclair same country* different systems

@GeorgeFSinclair Hong Kong is not mainland china. Same government, two systems.

@Mantispie @KarzhaniTL742 A long NEP to develop the means of productions to a point to outrivaling the west is nazi germany to you?

@KarzhaniTL742 China is about as Socialist as Nazi Germany

"China is communist" mfs when you ask them for any kind of proof that China is communist besides better living standards than the US.

The national bourgeoisie was allowed to exist temporarily to try and build up the means of productions from an semi-feudal one into an modern day one and once that happened they were supposed to dissapear during the phase of actual existing socialism marxists.org/reference/arch… this sadly did not happen as revisionists took power, but this is not a fault with Maos theories, its just that the theories need to evolve and develop more further to prevent such revisionists from taking power. also there is no guarantee that modern china has fully abandoned the socialist path...as I explained in the first bit here.

@HandsOffDPRK Ok good. Now what happened to the national bourgeoisie of China?

Mao says that national struggle should ally with the "revolutionary" national bourgeoisie. Nationalism is class collaboration

@GeorgeFSinclair hong kong is not mainland china and was a weak example. so try focus in the mainland china one.

@HandsOffDPRK No, just the Hong Kong one. You bring up Hong Kong so I just want to focus on Hong Kong electoral conference.

@FreedomFlaming0 your hint was debunked x.com/HandsOffDPRK/s…

@HandsOffDPRK *Hint* I said it like 10 replies ago

It rejects them because anarchists think national liberation fronts usually hand power to the local bourgeoisie after the imperialists leave. But that doesn't prove Mao wrong. Mao already said the national bourgeoisie is unstable and only useful “at certain periods and to a certain degree.” After national liberation is complete the overthrow of the national bourgeois will happen.

@HandsOffDPRK And why does it reject them?

@GeorgeFSinclair I already did though english.www.gov.cn/news/topnews/2…

@HandsOffDPRK That's why you need to prove your point. Retweeting what you say is not proving. I need you to simply tell me the date of the last election for the electoral conference by the masses.

@GeorgeFSinclair Probably, why does it need to be said?

@HandsOffDPRK Would you tell him that his country was being controlled by the US military?

The FAQ basically says anarchists oppose imperialism, but they also oppose nationalism and national liberation fronts. So they support oppressed people fighting domination, but they dont support teaming up with the national bourgeoisie or building a new state. This source does not prove Mao is fascist or wrong. It only proves anarchists reject Mao’s united front strategy

@HandsOffDPRK Summarize its argument for me

@GeorgeFSinclair If I was the leader of north korea and met with the leader of south korea which is Kim Dae-jung would I meet him? Yes, because diplomatic relations are not an alliance.

@HandsOffDPRK Maybe you don't understand my question. Let me ask you this way. If you were the general secretary of the workers party of korea and Kim Dae-jung was the president at that time, what would you do? Would you willingly meet him?

@GeorgeFSinclair It wasn't made up though... chinas mass elections are held at a local level, those local politicians start electing their leadership and create an intra-party democracy. x.com/HandsOffDPRK/s…

@HandsOffDPRK Because I think you just make it up. You need to prove your point.

@GeorgeFSinclair I created an hypothetical scenario because its the best way to answer your question that did not make sense. What is north korea supposed to do to a person in the south? It only makes sense if they were in the north.

@HandsOffDPRK Why do you create a hypothetical scenario then? I am just simply asking you what North Korea should do with him.

@GeorgeFSinclair why does any of this matter? I told you already how chinas democratic system works.

@HandsOffDPRK When was the last election for the electoral conference by the masses?

@GeorgeFSinclair en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Dae-j…

@HandsOffDPRK What are you talking about? Do you even know who Kim Dae-jung is?

@FreedomFlaming0 Alliance with the enemy is temporary, the same way with Maos alliance with the KMT was temporary. History has not exonerated your assertion as history shows Mao coming on top of the KMT. The anarchist FAQ does not disprove anything.

@HandsOffDPRK You can't prevent this when you ally with and rely on your enemy. History exonerates my assertion. I'm done with this conversation until you read the full national liberation section of the Anarchist FAQ and wish to respond to its arguments