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💙 A Muneyuki Kaneshiro Protagonist

Hellsalem's Lot 가입일 Ağustos 2021
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Magicfist@Magicfist__·
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@TrTriton0501 The characters are there to push an idea. Denji had to let go, but he couldn't and the world ends. The ending is clear in showing that his life would've been better if he let go.
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Triton0501@TrTriton0501·
@Magicfist__ It doesn’t fundamentally change anything about what I said; it would have more weight behind it if Denji was to make this sacrifice and it’s not just to his own benefit, it would be to restore the world.
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Magicfist@Magicfist__·
Dude, this isn't "giving up a superpower", this is giving up your FRIEND. Pochita is Denji's best friend, it wouldn't be in character for Denji to abandon Pochita for his own benefit. Pochita sacrificing himself for Denji's sake is the only way, and it's in character for Pochita.
Triton0501@TrTriton0501

Fullmetal Alchemist literally ends with Ed giving up Alchemy, the thing he loves and is passionate about, to save his brother. Having the main protagonist give up what makes them special to save others is not a lack of conflict, it’s a resolution to conflict and it’s WORKED.

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Magicfist@Magicfist__·
@HeartlessHypno @ARGirisOUT_ @TrTriton0501 @J0hnnyStar The character is just a character. He is a narrative tool, why are you hellbent on having him "succeed" when you very well understand the point? We know in the ending that if he lets go of the chainsaw, he lives a happy life. We know that if he doesn't, world ends.
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Alexanderot@HeartlessHypno·
@Magicfist__ @ARGirisOUT_ @TrTriton0501 @J0hnnyStar Happy* What im curious about is what moronic mental gymnastics do you take to think that the flawed protagonist failing to grow and having zero agency whatsoever to the point where they are bailed out by the very end of the story is a good thing?
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Johnny Star⭐️@J0hnnyStar·
You guys have latched yourselves to the idea that Denji was completely incapable of growing past the person he was and that’s the fundamental problem. If Denji could go from having no life at all to learning to love his family to not falling for Makimas bait when she took it from him, the natural progression was learning on his own that he didn’t need Chainsaw Man to be happy. But instead of writing a story where he learns that, Fujimoto decides to have Pochita do it and end the story. That is the disconnect
Hayakawa@ARGirisOUT_

@J0hnnyStar Learn what exactly? He beats Makima almost exclusively because he wants to keep being Chainsaw Man. He is renouncing himself to his alter ego, and is why Part 2 occurs like it does. He attached his happiness to being Chainsaw Man, and it ended horribly.

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Magicfist@Magicfist__·
@HeartlessHypno @ARGirisOUT_ @TrTriton0501 @J0hnnyStar That is a terrible framing. Him having to realize he has to abandon his friend, and his friend going "yeah, I knew this had to happen but sit quietly and let it happen anyways" is egregious lol. Pochita has agency, he is his own character that realized how he burdened Denji.
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Alexanderot@HeartlessHypno·
@Magicfist__ @ARGirisOUT_ @TrTriton0501 @J0hnnyStar Pochita wants the best for Denji, and Denji knows this. If Denji was given the choice for this to happen and he made it himself, then he quite literally is doing what Pochita wants him to do. Do whats best for him. To live a somewhat normal life and be bappy.
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Media Literate Vriska Serket - ⚢
It's explicitly stablished that the events of Chainsaw Man affect the relationships and behaviors of the characters. No-one acts like their Part 1 selves. Power would've save a complete stranger on a whim. Nayuta would've behave as she does if she hadn't been raised by Denji.
Kai@Theworldwuw

This is utter semantical nonsense what difference is there between it being a dream and split timeline where nobody remembers the original events. They are basically the same thing functional no matter how you dice it.

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Volunteer64@TheVolunteer64·
Thank you, Chainsaw Man #CSM232
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@HeartlessHypno @ARGirisOUT_ @TrTriton0501 @J0hnnyStar in what universe do you think it is more satisfying for Denji to abandon Pochita for his own sake compared to Pochita sacrificing himself for Denji's sake? Pochita is not a "thing", he is not just a "power", he is his own character and has agency.
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Alexanderot@HeartlessHypno·
@ARGirisOUT_ @TrTriton0501 @J0hnnyStar So. Again. Make it so Denji is the one who chooses and not Pochita. You are quite literally laying out the easiest most simple character arc in existence and saying its 'good' that it never happens/comes to fruition. Denji never develops, and that is a bad thing.
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Ry🍒@ryloken68·
G’morning guys 👩🏻‍🦯
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@Ben561391568688 @monosou_ same reason why people have a problem with other people thinking it isn't a shit conclusion 🤷‍♀️
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Ben@Ben561391568688·
@monosou_ people do get the point, and they think it’s a shit conclusion why do you have a problem with that?
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Magicfist@Magicfist__·
@R4scal0 @Kaystwt_ and Pochita being a dues ex machina when Maru's bullshit technique exists 😭
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@Kaystwt_ "escaped the cog mentality" Are we not fucking reading the manga? The nigga is still fine with being a weapon for 300 years. Even in death he's admitting he might be used as a source of power lmao. Wtf was Gojo's character about if not to stop such a role???
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Magicfist@Magicfist__·
@Brayden2028_ The characters aren't real, they are tools. That's a fact that has to first be accepted. We didn't forget anything, we are not experiencing memory loss, you can still extract meaning as you normally would.
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Bray@Brayden2028_·
Of course, these moments still hold value in our hearts. But it’s much better when the characters themselves can remember them too. When they just forget everything from it and all the lessons they learned it feels erased. Because it is.
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Maya Kawa 🍉@myafarya·
Sonny Boy サニボ U da real sonny boy
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